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Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2008, 02:36:42 AM »
I wouldn't worry about the vibrators too much.  They were hooked up wrong anyway.  What looks to be happening is a lower voltage higher current jolt to the plugs coupled with the 120v direct current from the inverter (diodes make it direct).  Just a high energy discharge.  If the directhits Im going to order dont do the job then I'm going to try a capacitor bank for each cylinder to make a stronger arc.  This week is pay week I think, yay.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2008, 02:53:38 AM »
I understand that a lot of whats written says they weren't doing anything.  My thoughts are, with the lack of technical information, a starting point would be the exact set up, and then move from there. 

Right now I'm trying to exhaust all the reading material available, to see what I can see, its an interesting system.  Honestly, my problem is I'm far more mechanically inclined and not so much on the electrical.  I'd really like to see this running, and take a pic, and measure some electrics.


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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2008, 10:07:26 PM »
This weekend might be it, guys!  I think this week is the week I get payed and if so, I should be able to buy that engine this Saturday, I'm hoping.  I assure you, once I order the plugs, this experiment will be most exciting, whether it works or not.  This is just one idea of many.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2008, 08:17:55 PM »
I got my engine today!  It's a chevy straight six with a carburettor and...uhh...no starter =/  Oh well, that can be bought somewhere.  Ooo It's exciting, first I gotta get this thing running on gasoline, then we can move on to water!!  =D

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2008, 05:51:20 PM »
Super God

Did you know that s1r9a9m9 started posting again on the waterfuel1978 forum!

This is what he posted yesterday:

The relay I used has two sets of coils and resisters in them. The
same thing can be made by blocking the currents from the plug wire
from going into the inverter and blocking the current from the
inverter going to the plug wire, but leaving an open loop for both
at the plug by grounding the inverter at the plug base and no where
else on the vehicle.

The inverter has a constant current going to the plug except when
the distrubitor sends fire through the plug wire. The inverter needs
to be blocked only for the time it takes the plug to fire from the
distrubitor, and the same for the distrubitor blocked from the
inverter.

What goes on with the plug tip? well the inverter sends a current
to the tip where there is water , the plug tip now has a magnetic
field around it when the plug is fired from the distrubitor the
field is incressed and the extra amps causes a arc to form in the
clyender that expands the water as like a lighting bolt would. You
can expand water but you cant compress it. Yes if to much water is
in the cylender it will lock the engine. Thats why the timeing is
set after TDC .

Gas will not burn, gas vapor will burn. A carberator is designed
to vaporize gas as it inters the intake manifold under a vacummn.
Water will become partly vaporized and the rest is used to incress
the compression in the clyender. A fuel injecter sprays a mist of
fluid not vapor. It will partly vaporize in the clyender before the
plug fires. That is why cars with carbs and cars with injecters have
defferent time even for the same size engines. There is a few
degrees defferents in them.

The relays I used did not have any numbers or names or any marking
on them at all. The parts I found that would work cost $600.00(US)
for each clyender, and I was ask not to give out that info becaused
of what they were used for. Home Land Secuirty Issue's. I dont
ask , I dont tell. Plus how many people would spend their rent
money for the parts. None of this can be patented and sold.

I hope this will help others finish their projects.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2008, 06:20:27 PM »
Why yes I did!  I've been following that forum very closely.  However, we already have all information we need!  This engine is going to take some work to get running.  I need to make a starter mount and get a starter, alternator, and a battery, oh and a radiator.  So it's not going to be running RIGHT NOW, but it will run soon enough!  If it won't run I'll have to rebuild it, but at least then I can make sure it's like new.  Pictures soon, once I get the camera on the cellphone working!  =D

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2008, 11:03:06 PM »
The best I could come up with was a crappy camera phone, here you go:

(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/SuperGodlyGodz/021008_12574.jpg)

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2008, 09:51:29 PM »
My engine is one step closer to being ready for testing.  I have an alternator and starter.  Now, i need to wait until better weather to snag the fuel pump and radiator (and bell housing) from my grandpa's truck to get this thing running.  Before I order the DirectHits, I want to stick to what s1r did, I'm going to get some diodes and an inverter and attempt to wire it up like he did.  Now the only problem I have is how to connect everything,  how am I going to hook a 120v wire up to a spark plug?  What should I use for connectors??

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2008, 10:44:02 PM »
"how am I going to hook a 120v wire up to a spark plug?  What should I use for connectors??"

That should not be a problem. Regular spark plug wires have an insulated covering that pretty well keeps in 20kv or 30kv of electrical pressure (voltage) from a standard spark coil so I think they would work just dandy for 120v.


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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2008, 10:06:25 AM »
Out of all the things I've read this one actually looks the most promising. After reading up on this for some time I realized that this has not been tried on a fuel injected motor. If that were possible I would be more than willing to try it on my 94 VW jetta. I plan on doing an engine swap in the future anyway. What are your thoughts on combining this system with an HHO generator? Any thoughts? Advice?

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2008, 10:42:36 PM »
Try it on a fuel injected vehicle.  I'm going to sometime as well.  I think the HHO injection will help out in terms of power and performance, but I have not tested this yet, however, once money and time allow, I will experiment with this also.  First thing is to get this thing running on water, which shouldn't be too far off, I've almost got everything to get this engine turning over on gasoline, and once I do that then I can move onto water.  I'm expecting sometime in the spring I'll be able to really start working on this project.

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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2008, 03:41:48 AM »
I have seen some of the diagrams and I have to confess, I seem to get more confused the more I look at them. This might be a dumb question and I apologize if I sound like a complete idiot, but the way I see it, even dumb people might be able to help figure this thing out with the help of these forums.

My question is where do I start and what should I be picking up from my local hardware and electrical stores to begin experimenting? As I mentioned before I would like to try to replicate what s1r9a9m9 did with his car on my VW Jetta which is fuel injected. From what I understand I will need to pick up a AC inverter, some diodes and a HV DPST relay or vibrator? If your wondering where I'm pulling this from below is the diagram I'm looking at.

Many of you are probably working on your own projects so I understand if helping out a newbie like me might be an inconvenience. If so, at least point me in the right direction. I have a car I would like to use in this experiment, I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to wiring something so If I have someone to help me with my questions, the rest I think I can manage.

Thanks to all for your time.


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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2008, 06:33:15 AM »
This document at the end of this link is a compilation of the yahoo group posts where the information originally came from. I hope everyone finds it as educational as I did. http://sdch2o.free.fr/vrac/watercar.pdf

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2008, 01:04:53 PM »
HotRod, what I am going to do is get an AC inverter and some diodes, no relays.  Wire it up to that the AC current can only go one way, and so that the AC current does not go back to the distributor.  I'll draw a diagram tonight after school.  It should help explain what I'm trying to do.  If this doesn't work then I'll try plan B, the DirectHits.  =D

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2008, 04:56:39 PM »
Finally the snow is starting to melt!  Whew, it's been a long wait.  This weekend I'm going to pick up an inverter and some diodes.  Getting ever closer to that moment of truth!