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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 515010 times)

Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #900 on: October 26, 2008, 02:22:19 AM »
I was looking over the circuit today and I was contemplating replacing the ignition side of the circuit (the side with the coil) with a high frequency current generator and the transformer with an air core transformer, much like in the original design.  That design seemed to work much better to the author of it, and he never mentioned misfires.  Maybe an opto-isolator for interface to the distributor coil.  The ignition coil would not be needed, the distributor could act like a rotary switch, triggering an transistor to turn on the hf current.  Just an idea.  The air core transformer could step up the volts to whatever value we desire.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #901 on: October 26, 2008, 07:18:34 AM »
Hi Folks,

I have been reading this thread as fast as I can for several days to try to catch up.  I don't like to jump in before I know what is going on in a thread.  I am on page 19 now and have also read the last two pages.

When you put water in the carb, it will plug some very fine holes inside it.  I have spent most of my life working on ice's.  When we suspected water in a carb, we would rev up the engine and hold the choke shut, if it was not efi, and keep the engine running so the vacuum from the engine would hopefully suck out the water or trash.

The best way I have found to get water from a fuel system is to add isopropyl alcohol.  The brand I liked best for water dispersant is "ISOHEET".  It is similar to "HEET" except it smells like rubbing alcohol.  If I remember right "HEET" is methanol, whereas "ISOHEET" is isopropyl alcohol.  That is the reason iso smells like rubbing alcohol.  The main difference between ISOHEET and rubbing alcohol is that rubbing alcohol has been watered down a lot already.

I watched a demonstration where they put about a teaspoon of water and gasoline in a bottle and put methanol in it and shook it and it didn't mix all that well.  Then they took another bottle the same amount of water with gasoline and put isoheet in it and shook it and the water completely blended with the gasoline.

I said all of that to say this, when you put water in the carb and then can't get the engine to run on gasoline again, try mixing isoheet with the water and gasoline mixture and see if that will clear the water out.

I also want to say my hat is off to all of you for the work you are doing and also for how you are all cooperating with each other on this project.  I have been following capacitor70 since I saw his first video.  And the rest of you all have good ideas and are good at carrying them all out.  I could mention each of you, but I have already took up too much space.

I am crippled and can't do much work, but when I get caught up with the reading, I may can come up with an idea or two that may help.

Thanks for all that you are doing, and someday, I will be able to say, "I knew these guys before they were famous for inventing the Plasma Fuel system."

whizwheel


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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #902 on: October 27, 2008, 02:53:54 PM »
Hello everyone,
It's been a long while since I posted.  We got extremely busy with and now we have been able to get back at it.  We did build a 600v plasma system and was able to get it working on a gas lawnmower at idle using just gasoline, but the voltage was too high for our switch and we lost spark at the switch.  We are going to get a higher voltage switch and try it again and then see if we can increase the idle.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #903 on: October 27, 2008, 10:38:33 PM »
Hi all

@provelless
I guess you are right about what you said but this is 1980 briggs & stratton. Excess fuel can go down a tube to the crank oil. I've seen that happen before... :'(
This carb choke is a metal piece that goes in and out the carb and has direct contact with the fuel and some excess fuel comes out of the choke too.
I don't know what valve got stuck but my guess is that it was the intake. But it came loose with some heavy "bangs" on the engine.

Today I'm disappointed again. :'(
That 50/50 mixture I so happily told you about was not that great of an acheavment.
I found out that with that even mixture, my engine can run on regular spark, without plasma...

With 40% alcohol 60% wather I could also run with regular spark. At idle only and opening and closing the choke.
Fuel was coming out the exaust because it was flooded.

Then I tried another 20cc of water making 33,33333333% of alcohol and 66,6666666% of water and with plasma I could not start that engine.

So for me, the conclusion is that this plasma cannot do nothing that a regular spark cant.
Well maybe a litle of cold start easiness but nothing furder...

I'm tired of this. No one was able to replicate capacitor70 results, not even himself has far has I know...
I guess I will stick here and watch you guys and see if I missed something here.
It was so simple. A bunch of diodes, a big capacitor and a 4 stroke engine. I have all of those and even added an adjustable spark timing.

@whizwheel
Your input was very important and valuable to me and I think to allot of us. For that, thank you

@Super God
Go for it...

Best of luck to you guys
I'll be here...
rfsimoes

Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #904 on: October 28, 2008, 01:43:34 AM »
There is some key aspect we are missing in order to implement this system properly.  There is more to it than just piggybacking 110 over high voltage it seems.  Could it be polarity?  The diode system works but the coil system seems to fail.  Why?  One user I recall gettin 4k rpm spikes from the coil system, maybe the tuning is the key.

dhouse

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #905 on: October 28, 2008, 02:39:35 AM »
Ok, we are using a diode system with a 15000 dc coil and using a 641ac supply.  It creates one heck of a spark outside of the engine.  When installed on the 4-stroke, single cylinder engine it will barely idle with gasoline, but it acts as if it is starving for fuel.  As soon as we switch off the ac bridge, the mower engine runs fine.  What are we missing with just regular gasoline?  We don't want to try water yet if we can't get past the gasoline.  We created an adjustable ignition switch on this as well.  Any input would be great.  Thanks

Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #906 on: October 28, 2008, 03:00:21 AM »
Maybe the voltage isn't high enough in the cylinder for the ac to run accross or the ac is snubbing out the hv spike.

dhouse

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #907 on: October 28, 2008, 03:59:56 AM »
By voltage do you mean the DC side?  We are currenlty using a 15000vdc coil.  We have 641vac, which I assume would be plenty.  We have a 45000vdc coil, but it was shorting out our diode bank, so we put the 15000vdc coil back on.

xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #908 on: October 28, 2008, 02:59:47 PM »
@rfsimoes:
Have you tried to use HHO as the fuel with the plasma spark?

alan

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #909 on: November 02, 2008, 05:22:50 PM »
It's a 4 stoke 127cc 3HP briggs & stratton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEs_XF5IWQY

I know that in brasil, alcohol is used allot in cars but don't know what kind of alcohol.

Must be bioethanol distilled from soya, for which the(ir) precious rainforest is being destroyed :(

rfsimoes

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #910 on: November 02, 2008, 05:49:09 PM »
@rfsimoes:
Have you tried to use HHO as the fuel with the plasma spark?

No I did not. I did not manage to build a efficient enough HHO tank.
In adition I think it is dangerous and It adds another complicated and variable to the system.
I don't see the advantage on using HHO in this.

thermalenergy

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #911 on: November 06, 2008, 11:16:40 PM »
Greetings all
This is my first post here, and a have a few questions.

Here is a video of my set up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSq3jVlMHA

so far we have built a pair of firestorm spark plugs and we have put together a combination of the Tero water explosion circuit and the JCBX circuit.
We cant get the engine to run however, so i am curious about a few things, especially from capacitor70 or s1r9a9m9
- what is the best air to water mixture
-what is the optimal way to bring the water into the engine
-what is the optimal timing of the engine
-what is the optimal voltage coming from the inverter, and end result through the diodes ( as diodes to consume some voltage, there is a voltage drop when using certain diodes)
- is there a good way to charge the water before bringing it in to the motor, with magnets, or ionization or joe cell etc

any more help or comments would be great

thanks for all the good work everyone!

Hi All,
this is my first post, so I wanted to read up to make sure somebody hadn't said the same thing already. The water feed to the sparkplug seems to fire best when it's atomized finely, so how about using an ultrasonic mist generator like is used around ponds and such? The circuitry of the ultrasonic generator could even be included as part of the sparkplug firing circuit. The generators I've seen have all used AC voltage, but since you're using an inverter already that's not a problem. The problem of how much air to mix with the water would be easier to solve with the mist than with liquid water. I think two separate power supplies, one DC, and one AC, are key to getting this working in an ICE. I also think the capacitors should be duplicated for each plug on a multi-cylinder engine, in order to give them more charging time between firings. I have a 3 cylinder Suzuki metro engine sitting in my garage that would be ideal for a plasma-fired, water powered conversion. The question remains, do I have to use it on mains current, or can I make it portable then get out and drive it?
Joel

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #912 on: November 23, 2008, 04:22:13 PM »
This year we don't have winter season. Its raining in winter season and temperature is much much high :( 15 Centigrade more than previous years.

read this:
ORMES the Secret WATER FUEL CELL ingredient:
By: Jeremy William VanHaitsma

making of ORMES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jtnuMAa00

Have fun and happy, safe research....

Any one knows name of stone which is used in welding machine. when we drop water on it, it generates explosive gas ?

Gustav22

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #913 on: November 23, 2008, 06:44:08 PM »
Any one knows name of stone which is used in welding machine. when we drop water on it, it generates explosive gas ?
calcium carbide (CaC2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbide_lamp

alan

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