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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 457789 times)

Offline vlindos

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #855 on: September 06, 2008, 10:17:28 PM »
Test Results
1. Initially I have used relays instead of MOSFET. And relays worked for few seconds during this battery voltage raised to 12.41V from 12.37V.
2. Now I am having isolated power supply for mosfet drivers.
3. Batteries used are 12V 65Amps.
4. Transformer is 5Amps 12Volts for inverter.
5. CFL 15Watt as load.
6. It works like efficient inverter.
7. Battery drain is observed with MOSFET circuit, (relay circuit dosen't work more than few seconds.)
8. Battery voltage drops 0.03Volts per hour with 15Watt CFL.

Please suggest some thing.... (no limit less power :()

Hi capacitor70. I am very glad you are continuing your experiments. But let me do some remarks
1) I assume you are talking about the Tesla Switch here
2) Why are you using CFL as load why not the discharge gap as resistance thing?
3) AFAIK Tesla switch isn't a overunity thing. It just gets the wasted current after the load back in to the battery - which is good enough.
4) You are observing power drain using MOSFET design may be because of the higher frequency of the mosfets operation against the relays. So there is in the end more power wasted on the LOAD. What is your frequency for MOSFETs and what frequency for RELAYs? When did you'd measured voltage increase from the relays attempt ? What circuits use for both ? How much would be the voltage drop without the circuit plugged in, just the load to a one battery? Are you sure design are you using is OK (your picture isn't very clear)?

Hope that would help you. Don't dispirit yourself you are on the right track :)
Just a thought of mine: you need to find way to use tesla switch on your previous discharge circuit.

Wish luck to all of us!

« Last Edit: September 06, 2008, 10:51:08 PM by vlindos »

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #855 on: September 06, 2008, 10:17:28 PM »

Offline capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #856 on: September 07, 2008, 05:00:56 AM »
1) I assume you are talking about the Tesla Switch here
Yes

2) Why are you using CFL as load why not the discharge gap as resistance thing?
Yes, that is next step

3) AFAIK Tesla switch isn't a overunity thing. It just gets the wasted current after the load back in to the battery - which is good enough.

If Load resistance is zero (Plasma) then all the voltage drops across battery (Charging) same as input given so No need to charge batteries for plasma generation, It is better to use CFL (Vacuum for plasma channel)  This way we can make Light and heat without putting energy (Overunity). Plasma may help to extract electrons from space...

My observations are power from battery is drained in proportional to load, We can flow very high current without putting too much voltage so current is doing our work and we are taking voltage back into battery.

4) You are observing power drain using MOSFET design may be because of the higher frequency of the mosfets operation against the relays. So there is in the end more power wasted on the LOAD. What is your frequency for MOSFETs and what frequency for RELAYs?
Mosfet and relays are operated at 50Hz and below frequency.

When did you'd measured voltage increase from the relays attempt ? What circuits use for both ? How much would be the voltage drop without the circuit plugged in, just the load to a one battery? Are you sure design are you using is OK (your picture isn't very clear)?
Same triggering circuit is used for relay and mosfet so same frequency of operation. For mosfet I am using mosfet drivers to make sure proper switching.
With mosfet I don't see charge balancing, But with relays It balances charge (voltage) and also charging is observed.

Offline happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #857 on: September 07, 2008, 05:34:30 AM »
@Cap70,

Have you given up on the diode and coil circuit's ?  ............Have you been able to do any more trials on your original motor bike motor ?

Regards,
HV

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #857 on: September 07, 2008, 05:34:30 AM »
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Offline capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #858 on: September 07, 2008, 05:54:29 AM »
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Have you given up on the diode and coil circuit's ?  ............Have you been able to do any more trials on your original motor bike motor ?

No, I know how much energy is required to fire plasma plug to run engine, Need new spark plug every half hour to run it on water, I am finding ways to get rid of these problems.

Offline happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #859 on: September 07, 2008, 06:08:35 AM »
@Cap70,

Good to hear you don't give up............Have you ever tried using water sucked strait out of a water fuel cell....Rather than just water ....

Being that the water in a water fuel cell has alot of HHO trapped in the water, I figure this would make it easier to ignite the water....

I know that with HHO alone in a 4 stroke, the waste spark is a big problem...... 

Would this be the case if HHO was enriched in the water ?

Regards,  HV

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #859 on: September 07, 2008, 06:08:35 AM »
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Offline vlindos

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #860 on: September 07, 2008, 06:52:07 PM »
Quote from: capacitor70
And relays worked for few seconds during this battery voltage raised to 12.41V from 12.37V.
Hmm... how that (voltage raise) could happen ? I really thought that whole effect is just transfering energy from battery to battery

Quote from: capacitor70
If Load resistance is zero (Plasma) then all the voltage drops across battery (Charging) same as input given so No need to charge batteries for plasma generation
Never thought that actually the plasma is having zero resistance...interesting thought that might be very close the throught.

Quote from: capacitor70
This way we can make Light and heat without putting energy (Overunity). Plasma may help to extract electrons from space...
I think that the resistance of the LOAD is transferred energy into something (light or heat), however there is still current after that, and in the plasma case it should be a lot of current.

For mosfet I am using mosfet drivers to make sure proper switching. With mosfet I don't see charge balancing, But with relays It balances charge (voltage) and also charging is observed.
Well it really smells like the mosfet drivers aren't synchronized :D. What other can explain that it works with relays and not with  mosfets? However if Tesla Switch is _really_ pump for electricity - see what the people here had written:

"When using solid state components, PNP transistors are widely preferred over NPN transistors, however, the reason for this has only recently become apparent: atmospheric electrons from the local environment can enter the circuit in a PNP device, but not through an NPN"

From http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Tesla_Switch_-_Geovoltaic_Energy_Pump_(GVEP)


« Last Edit: September 07, 2008, 07:21:25 PM by vlindos »

Offline magneto_DC

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #861 on: September 10, 2008, 08:40:40 AM »
Hi xbox hacker,

does the voltage doubler circuit work at 230V too? From AC230V up to DC550V? Same 30uF capacity or little bit different? What voltage rating for the caps?


http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3977.0;attach=25819

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #861 on: September 10, 2008, 08:40:40 AM »
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Offline rfsimoes

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #862 on: September 11, 2008, 02:17:26 AM »
No, I know how much energy is required to fire plasma plug to run engine, Need new spark plug every half hour to run it on water, I am finding ways to get rid of these problems.

I sure that many of us would like to see your engine running on water for 30 minutes long.
I'm even more sure that we like to see our own engines running as far has 1 minute or even less...

Offline pablitosax

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #863 on: September 11, 2008, 11:31:39 AM »
@capacitor70 : " high voltage travels easily in vacuum, Under pressure you need more voltage on plug to get it work....."

I acoording with this too..because of this ,the turbocharger cars need a ignition of more energy , a Capacitive Discharge Ignition of a lot of Milijoules are ideal.
In this site of an Brasilian Engeniering named Cesar Marques there is some tips about this:

http://www.cmracing.com.br/

He make a Capacitive Ignition more powerful of the world (360 milijoules and 500 milijoules) ...The spark are of 2 inches of long !! ..
the especifications are here :

http://www.cmracing.com.br/iecm.htm


And here you have some tips for INSOLATING wires and spark plugs , and how make a correct electrode for same energy !! ...(VERY IMPORTANT say´s he)

Perhaps serve to resolve : "Need new spark plug every half hour to run it on water, I am finding ways to get rid of these problems." :

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-79875825-ignico-cm-racing-alta-potencia-turbo-aspro-q-msd-mallory-_JM

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #863 on: September 11, 2008, 11:31:39 AM »
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Offline xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #864 on: September 11, 2008, 03:39:49 PM »
Hi xbox hacker,

does the voltage doubler circuit work at 230V too? From AC230V up to DC550V? Same 30uF capacity or little bit different? What voltage rating for the caps?


http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3977.0;attach=25819

Tanks
magneto_DC
Yes it should work fine. In my setup using 110VAC, i use 33uF @ 250V.....so i would use a 400V cap if i were you.

@everyone:
S1r clams to have a second car running on water. He said he will drive the car to the alternative energy meet in Florida in October....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I live in FL so you can bet your sweet ass i will be at the meet from open to close on every day!! So i dont miss this!!

The advanced alternative energy device show-and-tell weekend event
will be October 18-19, 2008 at the Little Harbor Resort in Ruskin,
FL. Admission is free. Rooms at the resort are available at a
discount. If you want to just show up, that's fine. If you want a
room or to be a presenter on the program, it would be good to let
them know now. Here is an interview with Mr.Spodie Odie about the
event:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kywaterfuelmuseum/va/2008/09/05/spodie-
odie

This is the quote from S1r
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No. Its been to long time trying to copy the relays on the thing so I
built another car with a deferent set up on it. You will know it when
you see it. My wife is pissed because its another one of her cars.
She hase been wanting to sale it for over a year, and no one seems to
want it as is so I changed it over and its still for sale for the
right price, and it ant cheap. I'll name the price at the get
together. I have some people following me down to video the vehicle
as we go to show road speeds and how well it goes up hills, so there
will be no question as to its preformance issues.
I have a couple of sponcers paying for the trip so maybe I'll have
enough money to get a room to stay in. Maybe set up a cott next to
the car.
I am sure that there will be an interview of some sort on it and I do
plan on bringing a second system with me to show how it is put
together and how it works. This time there is photos and other stuff
that go with this system.
I plan on leaveing the car running all weekend just to show it will
run for a long time.

I hope to see all of my non fans there, as well as fans. But I'll be
happy to just get this out there to every one. Maybe then I can
start getting some sleep.

The relays on the Elcamino can be copied but not to the point of
running a car on the road. Maybe a generator or some thing small, but
not a car. All the stuff I have put together has been the same. The
engine still surges and that ant good enough for me and not worth
giving out for others to fail at. A change was needed and I changed
the whole thing so it would work, and be easy to build.

I will show the system at the get together in Florida on the week end
of the 18th.

Want to see it? Be there,or chatch it on the web.

S1R.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #865 on: September 11, 2008, 07:12:35 PM »
I saw what S1r posted too, it gets more hilarious by the minute. Xbox, please take a camera to take pictures and/or video in case he does indeed show up. I bet something happened to the car or his wife wouldn't let him do it. We know there will be some excuse, there usually is.   ::) 

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #866 on: September 11, 2008, 10:16:43 PM »
I saw what S1r posted too, it gets more hilarious by the minute. Xbox, please take a camera to take pictures and/or video in case he does indeed show up. I bet something happened to the car or his wife wouldn't let him do it. We know there will be some excuse, there usually is.   ::) 
I got a hand held 720p HD video camera charged and a 2GB SD card ready to GO!!!! ;D

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #867 on: September 12, 2008, 12:55:21 AM »
I will also be attending to make sure Xbox video's the car and not pretty girls walking by.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #868 on: September 12, 2008, 10:13:40 AM »
X-Box,

Hi, I finally received my Ferrite rod cores (No local Radshack has them).
I wound a coil, to your winding specs. yesterday and tried to test it. I ran power from variac to FWB to relay to cap (400V 100uf) to primary side of the coil. Then from secondary (shielded wire) to spark gap tester. I got nothing. Tried varying the voltage. Still Nada.
To make sure everything was working (up to the new coil) I connected my MSD ignition coil and it ran fine. So I reconnected the new coil and again got nothing.
Am I testing this right?
The gauge of both the solid shielded and unshielded wire is a little higher than your tutorial, so I had to superglue two 1'' rods together (info on the net says that is OK) Again, trying to get specialized wire here locally is impossible.

Any Idea's?
Thanks,
D.       

Offline happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #869 on: September 12, 2008, 10:31:31 AM »
@Dread,

Old tv sets have 1kv-50kv pieces of wire in them....Hope this helps...

Regards,

HV

 

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