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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 514956 times)

rfsimoes

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #630 on: August 02, 2008, 05:26:53 PM »
Hi all,

Today I burned my hand pretty badly.
I was handling a bottle that had gasoline in it and it ended up igniting in my and.
You can see the explanation here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjOc6IGGs3E

So please be careful wile handling and storing gasoline. Gas fumes are VERY flamable, they explode like butane gas. I just realised that. For me gasoline smell was nothing more than that, a bad smell.
I thought gasoline mist explodes but it seems that fumes explode even more easily and hotter.
My hand hurts very bad. :'(

xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #631 on: August 02, 2008, 05:40:44 PM »
@rfsimoes:
OUCH!!!!

rfsimoes

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #632 on: August 03, 2008, 12:08:56 AM »
After 2 hours of pain because of my hand I regain courage to restart my tests with my B&S 4 stroke engine.

No success at all on water.
Puled the cord until exhaustion. Increased the spark gap, reduced the spark gap, replaced the spark plug and nothing.

Today I used 2 300W bulbs in parallel the diode array and used the 240VAC mains power.
Very laud sparks outside, I had to cover my hears.

So I did the following test:
With spark plug out, I rotated the engine until a few degrees past the TDC. Both valves closed of course!
Then I poured some water throughout plug hole directly into the cylinder.
Screw in the spark plug and pulsed the HV coil to spark
I'm disappointed to notice that not even a tiny little movement was noticed on fly well.
Not enough trust power. I do not dare to increase the 470uF capacitor.

@capacitor70
On your successful engine test did you delayed the timing?
Did you ever made this same test? If so what were the results?

This is not promising at all, is it my water no good?
How do we do a simple water PH test?

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #633 on: August 03, 2008, 12:21:23 AM »
@rfsimoes,

You can get thin pieces of paper, from pool supply stores. They come in a bottle that looks like a vitamin jar, each strip is a single use PH test... Hope that helps.....

Mahalo Nui Loa

HV

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #634 on: August 03, 2008, 12:48:19 AM »
After 2 hours of pain because of my hand I regain courage to restart my tests with my B&S 4 stroke engine.

No success at all on water.
Puled the cord until exhaustion. Increased the spark gap, reduced the spark gap, replaced the spark plug and nothing.

Today I used 2 300W bulbs in parallel the diode array and used the 240VAC mains power.
Very laud sparks outside, I had to cover my hears.

So I did the following test:
With spark plug out, I rotated the engine until a few degrees past the TDC. Both valves closed of course!
Then I poured some water throughout plug hole directly into the cylinder.
Screw in the spark plug and pulsed the HV coil to spark
I'm disappointed to notice that not even a tiny little movement was noticed on fly well.
Not enough trust power. I do not dare to increase the 470uF capacitor.

@capacitor70
On your successful engine test did you delayed the timing?
Did you ever made this same test? If so what were the results?

This is not promising at all, is it my water no good?
How do we do a simple water PH test?

Hmmmm would it run on gasoline a loan?

xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #635 on: August 03, 2008, 02:34:49 AM »
Go through Stan Mayer's water fuel injector, circuit diagram is not shown but in description many similar things can be found like we are doing also You can find design of spark plug.
water car shown by japan uses water mist and hydrogen combination with plasma spark plug.

Stan_Meyer_Full_Data.pdf  page no 103 (The birth of new technology) total pages: 234

@Xbox
Thanks for testing and sharing results
your welcome..  ;D

Anyway i was looking at the Meyer info you suggested, and i had a thought. How about we take pressurized water and air and shoot both past the plasma event? I think it could look like this...
(http://myelectricengine.com/projects/mpdthruster/discharge.jpg)
From: www.myelectricengine.com
Now this idea is just plain water and plain air....just a idea.

Here is a another idea i have...take a look and let me know your thoughts  :D

We dont even need the HV with this idea... We are currently using the HV to create the low resistance zone for the DC to arc.

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #636 on: August 03, 2008, 02:49:19 AM »
@Xbox,

 How would the ionized air be produced ?  ..... Like Stan Meyer did? ......... I know that ultrasonic water foggers ionize the air.... They are also used in hydroponics to fog liquid chemical / water mixtures........

HV

xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #637 on: August 03, 2008, 03:01:09 AM »
@Xbox,

 How would the ionized air be produced ?  ..... Like Stan Meyer did? ......... I know that ultrasonic water foggers ionize the air.... They are also used in hydroponics to fog liquid chemical / water mixtures........

HV
It was just a thought i had...thast all.................i am not even 100% sure that ionized air can make the DC arc....i am just talking out my ass  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
So someone tell me if the ion air CAN or CAN NOT make the DC arc?

BUT, i guess we could use a system like Meyer did.."laser air ionization"

I know 3M makes a ion air blow gun machine....someone find the schematic for that...LOL  ;D

Check this out...
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/200359099/Ionizer_Air_Gun.html

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #638 on: August 03, 2008, 03:24:44 AM »
@Xbox,

Really nice pressure test you made in your video!!! Have you tried pluging the end of your plastic test cylinder, mist a little water and then plug end with a wine cork or something, see if there is sufficient pressure to blow the cork out, just a thought.....What size caps are you using, it looked like you had two in paralell....Thanks for sharing your work!!!!!

Mahalo Nui Loa

HV

xbox hacker

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Re: My cap70 replication!
« Reply #639 on: August 03, 2008, 04:24:55 AM »
@HV:
Thank you... the caps are 220uF in parallel, so it add up to 440uF total. I have tried poping off objects from the top of it, just ones resting on it...not like a cork pushed inside.... i even put my hand in front of it...lol (probably not the best idea)  ::)

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #640 on: August 03, 2008, 04:38:21 AM »
@Xbox,

What is the ion air gun used for i couldn't figure it out?  Are you still waiting on your doorknob caps, thats going to be fun to see what those will do, 30KV OUCH!!!!   Have you worked with HV like this much before???

Thanks ,

HV

happyvalley808

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #641 on: August 03, 2008, 06:05:05 AM »
@Xbox,

Thought you might find this interesting. I was checking S1R's Youtube profile, he has listed your plasma plug underwater video as one of his favorites..........?

HV

resonanceman

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #642 on: August 03, 2008, 07:10:52 AM »
your welcome..  ;D

Anyway i was looking at the Meyer info you suggested, and i had a thought. How about we take pressurized water and air and shoot both past the plasma event? I think it could look like this...
(http://myelectricengine.com/projects/mpdthruster/discharge.jpg)
From: www.myelectricengine.com
Now this idea is just plain water and plain air....just a idea.

Here is a another idea i have...take a look and let me know your thoughts  :D

We dont even need the HV with this idea... We are currently using the HV to create the low resistance zone for the DC to arc.

Xbox


Now  you  are  starting to  come around  to  what I have been  planning .

I  have thought for  quite a while that the  most practical  way to go  is  some kind of injector  plug .........  I know it is  harder to build  than   what  people have been playing with  so far ...............but it  shows alot more  promise .

The  system   can be very  flexible .......for  example . ...... there  has been some talk  lately  of  engines  overheating  if  they are ran  to lean .   
The injector  plug  could   get past  that by  simply   injecting  more water than  can  be vaporised  by the plasma ...... the  extra water  would  be flashed into steam .....  in effect  slowing down the   reaction ..........more steam  would also mean  more time  before   the implosion  phase . 

I had  planned  on  having  a narrow opening before  the final   burn  part of my plug .......there would  be smaller  electrodes  just before the  narrow section ........  the ides  would  be to " spray"  the  water  / air mixture  into  the   final  chamber .
The   excess water  droplets that arn't  hit by the arc  would serve  to   slow  the  reaction and  cool  the electrodes .

gary

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #643 on: August 03, 2008, 09:30:01 AM »
In my mind, I want to circulate energy, Once capacitor is charged no need to charge it again  ??? like Tesla  switch
It is possible to get multiple sparks once capacitor is charged. but I am working on how to circulate properly  ::) Using coil circuit and diodes combination.


Take two glasses of water and one empty, to understand concept.


UNDERSTAND CONCEPT NOT DESIGN
DESIGNING IS PAYING ATTENTION TO DETAILS


Hi Capacitor70,

I am following up your this thread and gone through the complete thread in detail. After this i have decided to start the work on this subject along with one electronic expert (as i have limited knowledge on electronic).

To start my trails i did the following;

1. I have taken a flyback transformer of Black and White television. This transformer produces a very good saw tooth spikes (Similar to the spikes described in Stanley Meyer patent document). The voltage at this transformer is around 20 KV with a frequency of 15.7 Khz. I was thinking that this transformer will give me good spark at the spark plug. But unfortunately the spark at the spark plug was pretty weak.

2. The i have taken the flyback transformer of color television, which produces much larger voltage between 30 to 150 Khz. Again the result was same.

3. Subsequently i have decided to take a trail on your circuit but could not understand the following:

a. The positioning of two spark plug. Does it mean that we have to put one more spark plug from where the current will jump and go to the coil.

b. What kind of voltage (AC OR DC) is being produced from the coil used in your circuit. (please pordon me if i am asking to much basic question).

c. When i have opened my ignition coil i have seen only two wires. One was connected to the wire coming out from the Capacitor and other end was going to spark plug. But in your circuit you have shown the three connection, what are those?

I look forward for your usual support, however the answers from other experts are also welcome.

Regards

Praveen

goldenequity

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #644 on: August 03, 2008, 09:46:25 AM »
Been bouncing between forums and assembling ideas in my head.  ::)
So I'll throw this one out there to "cherry pick" from my favorite concepts
so far.... you never know... until you find out. :)

Ozicell Ball Spark Plug
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2386-ball-spark-plug.html
June 2, 2008 Robert Krupa interview / discusses newest ball-to-ball plug patent
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kywaterfuelmuseum/2008/06/02/Robert-Krupa
« Last Edit: August 03, 2008, 10:06:34 AM by goldenequity »