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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 515033 times)

mrock

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #270 on: July 01, 2008, 11:37:41 AM »
Cap I am having some issues I had some great spark but never with the inverter connected so I figured I would try
so I went and got a 25$ inverter 400W and reied it and POOF smoke and fire came out of it! I didn't catch anything on fire thank god!

any Iedas as to what might be wrong sorry for the bad pic!

If I disconnect the inverter circuit all works well and I get a nice spark but if I connect well...............poof
or no spark at all!


maybe this will help.

thanks,
mrock

capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #271 on: July 01, 2008, 01:10:52 PM »
just installed waste spark removal system, needs testing....  ;D

Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #272 on: July 01, 2008, 05:29:01 PM »
Great!  Can't wait to see the results!

capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #273 on: July 02, 2008, 04:52:09 AM »
 ;D
4000V 16Amps and 160Amps for 8mSec surege configuration,
Advantages
1. Four diodes of 1000V@6A are not capable to block HV. But three SCRs with 600V@16Amp capacity blocks HV successfully.
2. Low drop actross SCR's, low energy loss.
3. Nearly four times High Current and voltage capabily compared to diodes.
4. Small size.

I think this is best, NEED TESTING WITH CAPACITOR, I burned my rectifier circuit...

RECTIFIER NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED, NOT WORKING, BURNED MORE THAN 12 DIODES 6A4. DO NOT USE 6A4 FOR RECTIFIER UNTIL YOU HAVE ENOUGH DIODES.

xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #274 on: July 02, 2008, 05:09:22 AM »
GREAT WORK cap70!!  :)

Keep us up to date on your findings...

Koen1

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #275 on: July 02, 2008, 10:45:53 AM »
Hi :

We can found schematics about s1r9a9m9 in this link :

http://sdch2o.free.fr/vrac/        (download the watercar.rar archive )

Are you talking about the watercar.pdf there or did the .rar file go missing?

And although something similar has been asked before, I do get the impression
that what is happening in this thread now and what is happening in Luc's "urgent!" thread
is so similar, that it seems the same stuff is repeated in both threads...
Yes, in Luc's new thread there is clearly also some discussion going on about what
is happening, but the focus is clearly on replicating Luc&Ossies circuits and experiments
there...
And over here, although it started out as someones exact replication, it now looks
very similar, with several people building replications of the circuit that appears to be
basically the same as that discussed in Luc's new thread...
Am I missing something?

Oh, and just out of curiosity, how many have managed to replicate s1r9a9m9's setup
and actually have a car running on water that does not need its battery recharged every day?
'cuz that's what s1r9a9m9 did right? He managed to get OU water combustion going in his
V8 engine and has been driving his car for free ever since... right? :)

pablitosax

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #276 on: July 02, 2008, 01:10:59 PM »
About :

Are you talking about the watercar.pdf there or did the .rar file go missing?

I say that you can found another related information but in this link:

http://sdch2o.free.fr/vrac/     

and you can download the watercar.rar archive that have various archives inside whit any explanations about.


regards.



Shanti

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #277 on: July 02, 2008, 01:36:26 PM »
Are you talking about the watercar.pdf there or did the .rar file go missing?
I could download the RAR File. Don't know what your problem was...

actually have a car running on water that does not need its battery recharged every day?
Well, if you manage to drive a car on water and just have to recharge the battery every day, you got it. A car battery doesn't have way enough energy (about 1kwh) to run a car (not only in idle) for some longer time (> 10Min).

Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #278 on: July 02, 2008, 06:04:00 PM »
I don't know why luc created the other thread.  We have gotten excellent results with capacitor70's circuit.  User jcbx6 over in the waterfuel1978 group has gotten his volvo to run on water with the same circuit capcitor70 is using.  So over here we are making progress rapidly.  The postal service is slower than molasses so I still have to wait before I can get mine working too.

By the way, I don't think this system uses THAT much electricity that it would drain a battery.  You would need two, however, because the starter motor drags down the voltage so much it would put the inverter in self protect mode.

Looking good so far, full steam ahead.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #279 on: July 02, 2008, 07:38:13 PM »
About :

Are you talking about the watercar.pdf there or did the .rar file go missing?

I say that you can found another related information but in this link:

http://sdch2o.free.fr/vrac/     

and you can download the watercar.rar archive that have various archives inside whit any explanations about.


regards.




Here are the direct links to download with one click :

http://sdch2o.free.fr/vrac/Watercar.rar

http://sdch2o.free.fr/vrac/watercar.pdf


Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

Jokker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #280 on: July 02, 2008, 08:11:47 PM »
I guess u can get power from external source for testing, or u can use car alternator (~1 KW @ normal rpm) ..for testing.
But yea idea is great  ;).  Ur using electrolysis to get some hydrogen and due hydrogen explosions what makes hight temperatures ...water expands (vaporizes) what is needed to run engine.  ::)

Atm. im learning thermodynamics at school... And as u know at basic chemistry that u will need extreme conditions to get effective reaction. So it makes that u need very hight temperature ... volume (const) that makes pressure growing up ... and result is faster reaction and more energy.

Although water a steam (vapor) is way good way to run engine coz it is expanding exponentially.

It is very thermodynamical picture on what u can see idea "idea"  :o

(http://engr.bd.psu.edu/davej/classes/thermo/Fig2_11.gif)


Im pretty sure that there are thermodynamic simulators available on internet.
So u need to find balance between energy u put in and form of energy u want to get out (heat, expanding  btw thease2 are pretty much linked ...)

Try to increase input power im pretty sure u will see grater results  ::)

Good luck !

hydrocontrol

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #281 on: July 02, 2008, 08:24:27 PM »
I don't know why luc created the other thread.  We have gotten excellent results with capacitor70's circuit.  User jcbx6 over in the waterfuel1978 group has gotten his volvo to run on water with the same circuit capcitor70 is using.  So over here we are making progress rapidly.  The postal service is slower than molasses so I still have to wait before I can get mine working too.

By the way, I don't think this system uses THAT much electricity that it would drain a battery.  You would need two, however, because the starter motor drags down the voltage so much it would put the inverter in self protect mode.

Looking good so far, full steam ahead.

 ?? We have gotten excellent results with capacitor70's circuit ??
Is this the circuit with the SCR's or with the diodes he just fried a few post ago ?
Perhaps we can have a sticky with the current working circuit that can be updated as improvements are made.

I think Luc started his thread before the circuit was posted as he was trying to figure out what was in 'the can' for the lawnmower video and was trying different ideas.
 
If we 'as a group' can come up with common 'off the shelf' parts to replicate running a lawnmower engine, then if one hundred + of us got engines running all over the world and released it on a certain date then the media attention would be too enormous to ignore and would be a lot harder to suppress.

resonanceman

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #282 on: July 02, 2008, 08:44:23 PM »
media attention would be too enormous to ignore and would be a lot harder to suppress.



It  is not likely to happen like this .........the media was bought  and paid for  a long time ago ..

It has to happen by one person helping   friends to  get free of   big energy .
Those  friends  then  need to help  their  friends .

Once the media notices  what is going on ...........and the powers that be see that it is  to big to stop ..........THEN  the media  will  get involved .

gary

Shanti

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #283 on: July 02, 2008, 10:04:44 PM »
@resonanceman: Actually I'm not quite as paranoid... ;)

Just as remark.

I saw you people are using Electrolyte Capacitors for the LV part.
If you do this, you have to be aware of certain facts:

* They are not made to withstand sudden discharges over a longer time!!! This means they will not live very long under such conditions!!!
* They have quite a high ESR, Even the low ESR types!!! This means, that even if you short them, the discharge current will not be very big, compared to a discharge cap. This means a good Electrolyte cap discharges maybe at about 10-40Amps and a discharge cap at about 1-4kAmps (1000-4000Amps)!!! Sure the discharge caps do cost a lot more. If you would like to get a good one which can also withstand high frequency discharges in the range of about 300uF they cost about $200 (e.g. 3x100uF of the WIMA  GTO Caps, which would be able to yield a 12'000Amp discharge)

The second fact is therefore interesting as with the current circuit in my opinion it would not work with discharge caps, for the amp load on the diodes would be far too big. But if one would change the layout, it could work.

It would really be interesting to see the bang difference between a discharge cap and an electrolyte cap.

Pro for the discharge cap : Much more Amps, is made to withstand high frequency discharges
Pro for the electrolyte cap: Is cheap, Due to the high ESR, the discharge is slow, and therefore the bang will be strechted longer in time.

Jokker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #284 on: July 02, 2008, 10:17:57 PM »
Capacitors are very very different and they got also very different characteristic charts.