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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 516885 times)

capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #150 on: June 17, 2008, 05:37:55 PM »
Capacitor charges to 175V DC makes bigger bang

In video it is chrged to only 90 to 100V DC, with 50Hz isolation xmer first circuit

Diodes on negative side for only simplicity of wiring in my circuit you can use it on positive, isolate ground if you are using it on ground side

1N4007 can conduct 4000V @ 1Amps this is coil current and voltage
6A4 (use 6A10) blocks 4000V and conduct 175V DC @ 6 A high current (Diodes have higher transient current capacity)

Problem with coil based circuit is when water touches to the tip of spark plug then it will not work

I think this circuit can run engine without water, only air is sufficient.... ::)

Water on tip gets off becouse of electrolysis but it takes too much time.

Another MAJOR observation is the remained water inside the spark plug (not on tip) makes very huge blast, I am scared to see with naked eyes
I put hard plastic (semitransperent dark color) cover on it to take trials

Make tips wet but do not short it with water and see the major differance, blast is at least 4 to 5 times bigger than dry spark plug

Now it is time to put this into engine. (I am busy with other work please take further trials)

I will take trial on engine after 10 to 20 days.....
 ;D :D
GO AHEAD ITS TRUE WATER CAN POWER ENGINE.......

THIS IS SIMPLEST METHOD
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xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #151 on: June 17, 2008, 10:41:04 PM »
capacitor70 THANX for the schematics! Does your set up have the ability to recover and recharge fast enough to run a car? (@ 175v per discharge) What type of step up transformer is used in you design?
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #152 on: June 17, 2008, 11:04:11 PM »
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Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #153 on: June 17, 2008, 11:35:24 PM »
Quote from: capacitor70 on June 17, 2008, 05:37:55 PM
Capacitor charges to 175V DC makes bigger bang

In video it is chrged to only 90 to 100V DC, with 50Hz isolation xmer first circuit

Diodes on negative side for only simplicity of wiring in my circuit you can use it on positive, isolate ground if you are using it on ground side

1N4007 can conduct 4000V @ 1Amps this is coil current and voltage
6A4 (use 6A10) blocks 4000V and conduct 175V DC @ 6 A high current (Diodes have higher transient current capacity)

Problem with coil based circuit is when water touches to the tip of spark plug then it will not work

I think this circuit can run engine without water, only air is sufficient.... ::)

Water on tip gets off becouse of electrolysis but it takes too much time.

Another MAJOR observation is the remained water inside the spark plug (not on tip) makes very huge blast, I am scared to see with naked eyes
I put hard plastic (semitransperent dark color) cover on it to take trials

Make tips wet but do not short it with water and see the major differance, blast is at least 4 to 5 times bigger than dry spark plug

Now it is time to put this into engine. (I am busy with other work please take further trials)

I will take trial on engine after 10 to 20 days.....
 ;D :D
GO AHEAD ITS TRUE WATER CAN POWER ENGINE.......

THIS IS SIMPLEST METHOD

Good work.  This IS the simplest way to do it, tot get us off of gasoline 100%.  It can be made to work easily.  Good work capacitor70!

EDIT: Wow!  After working through the schematic it looks as if only one spark plug wire will be needed!  Is that correct capacitor70?

I'm going to pick up my test engine as well tonight.
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xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #154 on: June 18, 2008, 12:07:21 AM »
OK...i will admit to my lack of knowledge  :-\    ... can some one help me with Cap70's latest schematic? here is a redraw with my questions in red. I just seem to be missing something (brain fart?) ;D

Thank You

-bill
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capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #155 on: June 18, 2008, 04:01:41 AM »
Does your set up have the ability to recover and recharge fast enough to run a car?
Use 12V 3Amps transformer to charge capacitor. It is like inverter, higher the amps of transformer
faster charging. use higher frequency (500Hz). See Optional circuit, it is inverter.

What type of step up transformer is used in you design?
Ignition coil, 12V 3Amps normal iron core xmer to make inverter. nothing special.

Would these be usable in your setup Cap70 ?
Please do not make things unnecessarily complicated.

After working through the schematic it looks as if only one spark plug wire will be needed!  Is that correct capacitor70?
No, Two wires one from capacitor and one from ignition coil. Diode on negative side becouse I dont want to break ignition coil wire.
Dideos on ground side create problem in engine, all body of engine is ground, so put diodes on positive side for engine trials.

Step up transformer?
Its ignition coil, internal diagram.

on/off Switch or just trigger for plasma?
you dont need to do this, if coil is on engine.
It is trigger for plasma.

Where does this come from ?
12V transformer priamary(230V), see bottom picture DSCN2716.jpg.
Ordinary 12V 3Amps transformer connected in reverse, to make simple inverter.

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ninjadaniel

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #156 on: June 18, 2008, 04:01:46 AM »
http://www.gocompany.com.au/GOmicrowaveparts.htm

these are what you need guys, prices are in AUD.  probably need to wire a bunch of them in parallel to get 4-6 amps passed current and maintain 12kv blocking voltage.
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capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #157 on: June 18, 2008, 04:12:15 AM »
Quote from: ninjadaniel on June 18, 2008, 04:01:46 AM
http://www.gocompany.com.au/GOmicrowaveparts.htm

these are what you need guys, prices are in AUD.  probably need to wire a bunch of them in parallel to get 4-6 amps passed current and maintain 12kv blocking voltage.

Do not use parallel combination of diodes to increase current, It is critical to maintain same current in each diode.

WHY YOU GUYS WANT TO MAKE THINGS COMPLICATED AND COSTLY
PLEASE DO NOT CONFUSE READERS, i have seen other forums discussion is going on and on more than 15000 posts, new people get confuse
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #158 on: June 18, 2008, 04:51:57 AM »
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capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #159 on: June 18, 2008, 05:11:33 AM »
Connecting diodes in parallel will increase the current carrying capability. If it is possible to match the diodes so that approximately equal current sharing is achieved this should be done, however, in the event that the exact characteristics are not know sharing resistors (with associated losses) can to be used.

We are putting very high current, transient current during capacitor discharge is very high 1N4007 can sustane 20Amps of transient current, continuous current for 1N4007 is 1Amps, Think if any diode is have less resistance (due to it characteristics) than others maximum current flows through it, In practical
diodes in parallel work for short time slowly it degrades its performance and the same diode start to lower its resistance this increases more current flow through it this chain action damages diode, So you need to balance its current using series resistance with each diode, it is critical to get (and measure) that low value high current resistance. This is main reson why parallel diodes are not used. even connection resistance also plays very important role, for newbies in electronics why to make things complicated.

See this link
http://www.powerdesigners.com/InfoWeb/design_center/articles/Diodes/diodes.shtm

In series connection voltage across each diode is not exactly equal but the maximum differance in voltage is 50V this tolarance is given, so it will work fine
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HeairBear

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #160 on: June 18, 2008, 07:46:36 AM »
Here is an idea...

(http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9660/ignitiondiagramug6.jpg)
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #161 on: June 18, 2008, 07:50:23 AM »
fantastic drawing mate! very good work- however i dont think the idea will work, looks like you are running the AC into the coil?  the coil probably wont work under 110/240v AC.
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HeairBear

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #162 on: June 18, 2008, 08:01:18 AM »
sure it will! Have you tried?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7JVHYD961M
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HeairBear

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #163 on: June 18, 2008, 08:47:38 AM »
Capacitor70,  thank you for the PM and informing me that my diagram is "its just ignition system, useless for water car
please do not put useless info". Please enlighten us all with your wisdom what this diagram is and why it wont work.
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capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #164 on: June 18, 2008, 09:14:06 AM »
Hairbear
  First, we have alrady worked lot on water car, so new diagram you are showing is unkown, we dont know the result, inverter is in series with coil primary
connection, so it is not possible to put high current discharge in spark plug, it makes more voltage not current, video shows plasma arc is passing higher
gap, its useless.

   See the results of our design, it is near to final stage.
1. Just spark plug. (spark is very small just a white dot on tip.)
2. Spark plug with DC on plug.
3. Spark plug with DC and water on plug.
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