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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 414605 times)

Offline rtsurfer

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2008, 01:59:47 AM »
First I would get the carb back on. Get gas back into it. Get it running again. ANd get it up to operating temp. Get the timing back to 30degress BTDC. I believe this was where he started at. Then using a "Y" valve setup slowly turn off the gas and change it to water. then let the carb put the water in no pumping.

But non of it will work without the inverter setup. I believe someone figured the coil by itself is about 90 joules and with the inverter on it is around 250 to 300 joules.

I rememeber in early 80's the carbs used a heater plate between the manifold and carb. That could be a thought later on.

I would get the water to a certain temp just above 120degrees, This way it won't take wuch to get it to flash. Also are you using distilled water? Seems regular water that can transfer electric would be better. distilled would take alot more to get it to go.

Walmart has cheap water heaters in the cup, pots and pan sections. You could try that to help heat the water.

Do you have a diagram of the diode setup?

If I lived near you I would lend a hand.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2008, 02:17:27 AM »
Yeah all this mechanics stuff is bogging me down.  I'm contemplating on going to a one cylinder engine until I get my stuff straightened out.  Yes I do have a diagram:

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2008, 04:01:42 AM »
What year and size of engine are you working with? You still will need a timing light

I am not sure it would be any easier in a one cyl engine. Just because there is no easy way to time it.

Also I do not recall him saying anything about the 110 from grounding. Just that he made sure the inverter was not grounded to the body. Meaning the body of the inverter was not touching the body of the car.

(http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/5/web/2909000-2909999/2909782_24_full.jpg)
This shows the y feed to the carb. THe water is higher then the engine. but it still feeds into the carb the same way the gas is feed into the carb. This way you can shut one off after it is running.

Hope this can help

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2008, 04:01:42 AM »
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2008, 12:49:47 AM »
I'm looking into electronic ignitions for one cylinder engines, right now I'm teetering on whether to stick with a six cylinder for now.  I'm not sure if water and gas can mix, they both operate at totally different timings and one would snuff out the other, unless you mean I should warm up the engine with gasoline. Woo boy, lots of stuff to figure here.  Bear with me, I'm still trying to think stuff through.  Are you gonna try this out too?  That would be cool.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2008, 02:08:47 AM »
I have a 4.0 jeep engine that I would love to try it on. Being that my budget it very tight right now. It will have to wait.

And Yes I would get that engine up to operating temp. THat should help heat the water.

What year car it that.

It looks like a chevy from the vid. 258maybe?

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2008, 04:44:17 AM »
I've heard that mixing rubbing alcohol can help get rid of water in your gas tank( by making it more volatile.)  Maybe you could go from gas to water + rubbing alcohol?  I'm pretty new to this stuf with very minimal science background(graduating in a week), so its just a thought.

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« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2008, 05:12:55 AM »
It's actually a dodge ram 1984 with a rock solid slant six.  Indestructible engine.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2008, 01:03:55 AM »
Also are you using distilled water? Seems regular water that can transfer electric would be better. distilled would take alot more to get it to go.

I think distilled water would be better at this point, since you don't want the minerals build up inside the engine.  Down the road, you could install a still inside the car to supply preheated, distilled H2O to the engine.  This would keep the lime and scale inside the still, and out of the valves, cylinders and exhaust manifold.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2008, 02:54:43 AM »
I think distilled water would be better at this point, since you don't want the minerals build up inside the engine.  Down the road, you could install a still inside the car to supply preheated, distilled H2O to the engine.  This would keep the lime and scale inside the still, and out of the valves, cylinders and exhaust manifold.

Again Slr never said. But flash needs to happen on the water but try a flash on distilled water. Nothing to transfer the Volts to heat.

Just thoughts

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2008, 05:13:56 PM »
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but if you inject water like you do gasoline, won't gas mileage stay the same, but just with water?  From what I understand, we can't really afford to use water like that.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2008, 05:37:47 PM »
I've heard that mixing rubbing alcohol can help get rid of water in your gas tank( by making it more volatile.)  Maybe you could go from gas to water + rubbing alcohol?  I'm pretty new to this stuf with very minimal science background(graduating in a week), so its just a thought.

Alcohol when mixed with Gasoline acts as a "bonding agent" when you have water in your tank...basically gasoline and water do not mix...they can settle apart and do not bond chemically.  The alcohol bonds the water molecules and gas molecules together so the water now gets carried through the system with the rest of the gas and the alcohol. 

You see this all the time in the winter when your autoparts store pushes those little bottles of "heat" or gas line antifreeze.  It's just a small bottle of alky.

Good Luck all...very interesting.

Thanks,

Hankinator

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2008, 06:13:42 PM »
I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but if you inject water like you do gasoline, won't gas mileage stay the same, but just with water?  From what I understand, we can't really afford to use water like that.
It takes more water to idle the engine than gasoline, hence if you ran it on water you would ge less miles per gallon of water unless you recycled it back into the gas tank.  In which case, mileage would be astronomical because you would just keep reusing the same water until it evaporated.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2008, 05:14:25 AM »
Wow, I feel dumb.  I forgot that the "waste" is water.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #73 on: June 06, 2008, 12:37:00 AM »
It's ok, I have my moments too.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2008, 03:53:23 AM »
supergod.  after learning of this topic a few months back i have been reading as much as i can on the subject including the current camaro replication.  after reading his plans again along with others work i will summarize his concept as utilizing an A/C inverted 120V setup without an electrolytic cell to generate a powerful spark that energizes micron sized water droplets in the chamber which instantly converts the water to thermal explosive energy.  i will come back to this later.

Stan Meyers created a fuel cell that after closer inspection has three primary functions: 1 it electrolyzes water, 2-the gases are ionized using bifilar coils and UV energy (laser) and 3-introduces micron sized water droplets into the piston chamber and then utilizes a potent spark to ignite the contents therein.  He also siphons off electrons to keep the plasma charged. 

Herman Anderson created several water cars.  in his latest iteration he produced a specially designed spark plug.  while his latest car ran on H2 and not an electrolytic cell, the big deal about his work was that he developed a hollow cell similar in appearance to Meyers.  at the top he positioned a modified spark plug to generate a potent spark with the electrode running through the center of this tube and residing in the piston chamber.  an inlet port was located in the middle of the tube where H2 gas was introduced and allowed to mix with air on it?s way directly into the piston chamber.  he and Meyers both had direct injection modified spark plug units.  anderson?s unit would allow hydrogen to enter along with ambient air, a fine mist of micron sized water droplets and a spark of up to 70Kv.

now.  to keep this as straightforward as i can about successful water cars in general and this is abbreviated.  the key as it relates to your project is in number 5.

1   electrolysis alone, it seems, is generally accepted as being insufficient to power a combustion engine beyond that of a small lawnmower.  even with a pulse generator to increase production, this appears to be insufficient to power a car motor.
2   hydrogen is a tiny molecule and suffers from having a low mass energy density.  hydrocarbon molecules are huge in comparison and their density is sufficient to move the internal workings of a motor.  hydrogen is so light it cannot do so as effectively.  this is why we hear rumors of hydrogen car conversions feeling like they have less or half power.
3   electromagnetism is a recurring theme in each of the successful water car examples with the exception of ?S1r9a9m9?.  this concept of electromagnetism is important because the ionizing of a gas is creating a plasma.  this conversion to the fourth state of matter creates more deuterium (D2) and a more powerful combustion than standard combustion of gases alone.  deuterium has an added neutron making the atom twice as dense as hydrogen.  plasma is a key element in the process as the added power of the gas now compensates for the lack of production ability of plain electrolysis.
4   ionizing or making hydrogen plasma can be accomplished in several ways, IR, UV, X-ray, microwaves and others.  the key frequency for each method is documented in research briefs around the net.  microwaves were mentioned previously, UV happens around 195nm and above.  the excitation frequency for x-rays, gamma rays, etc i haven?t bothered to investigate as they are not practical for the average Joe to dabble with.
5   the high power spark is necessary to ignite hydrogen and deuterium.  i have come to discover this is also critical for another function utilized by Meyers, Anderson and S1r9a9m9.  the spark is generally in the vicinity of 40-70Kv.  What is important with this detail and why Meyers and Anderson inject water directly into the chamber along with S1r9a9m9 using water exclusively is that the extremely high voltage causes the water to instantly steam and ?explode? although it does not combust.  this process produces an enormous expansion of the water as it heats and it does so with greater force than the combustion of gasoline. 

now i mention all this to say, while i'm not familiar with everything this guy S1r9a9m9 has done because his plans are so cryptic and unprofessional, it seems some of his procedures are not necessary today.  in 1999 a guy named bebich was granted a patent for a super spark plug capable of delivering up to 100 volts if i'm not mistaken.  patent number 6,581,581.  this aside, modern manufacturers use high voltage sparks now.  and there is a company you can locate online at www.pulstarplug.com that produces 100kv plugs that may work for you as well.

just wanted to bring this all to your attention and hope it works for you.  give them a try.  if the spark creates the thermal explosive energy needed to run the car, then that's a big deal.  second, if the power isn't so great, you can always add a cell afterwards.  the hydrogen would only help in the combustion process.  but to really get the power you want, you need plasma or charged/ionized gas.  to get this, you need additional energy and there is plenty of reading material out there with the details.

keep us posted dude.  and good luck.
suckapunks


Do you think that this is what is going on with the Dingel (and other philipino) projects on youtube?  They all appear to be using a cell that generates hydrogen and oxygen sparately. 

Obviously they are not generating the 200 liter/ min. or so that it would take to run a car.  So, maybe they are generating just enough hydrogen to facilitate the water detonation?

If that were the case, we would probably see some sort of modifications around the spark plug area.  I haven't looked on those videos, but this is the best one for details, that I have seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-xRnDn_WF0&feature=related

Take a look and tell me what you think

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