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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 409271 times)

Offline Super God

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2008, 03:32:46 AM »
Diodes are here, tomorrow we do some wiring.  Things are looking good, thanks to a very generous individual who donated an inverter for my experiments!  Wow!  I'm glad there are others looking into this technology too!

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2008, 05:23:27 PM »
Keep up the good work Super God, I'm extremely interested in the results as s1r9's design was one I contemplated building too.  And watch out for the feds!
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2008, 02:07:25 AM »
I don't know why the government would want to go out of their way to stop me from doing this.  After all, it certainly is not illegal and I have broken no laws converting my truck.  But, if it does happen I have a backup plan ;)

By the way, the inverter is in transit so I'm going to get a box to wire everything together tomorrow.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #48 on: May 13, 2008, 12:24:44 AM »
Well if it doesn't work hang onto the engine, it's still very useful. Straight inline sixes are great for hydrogen fuel work. In the engine compartment they give you room to mount circuits and hardware you create. The trouble with 4 cylinder projects is most 4 cylinder vehicles are under powered to begin with. There is no power overlap in a 4 banger. I have a small 4 cylinder pickup, ( large 4) and it probably is almost as big an air pump as your six. On gasoline it gives some vibration and is underpowered. It's not the setup that's prime for hydrogen experimentation. I measured the engine compartment and it is to short to take a straight six. As you can tell I've already considered it. 

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #49 on: May 13, 2008, 03:28:14 AM »
supergod.  after learning of this topic a few months back i have been reading as much as i can on the subject including the current camaro replication.  after reading his plans again along with others work i will summarize his concept as utilizing an A/C inverted 120V setup without an electrolytic cell to generate a powerful spark that energizes micron sized water droplets in the chamber which instantly converts the water to thermal explosive energy.  i will come back to this later.

Stan Meyers created a fuel cell that after closer inspection has three primary functions: 1 it electrolyzes water, 2-the gases are ionized using bifilar coils and UV energy (laser) and 3-introduces micron sized water droplets into the piston chamber and then utilizes a potent spark to ignite the contents therein.  He also siphons off electrons to keep the plasma charged. 

Herman Anderson created several water cars.  in his latest iteration he produced a specially designed spark plug.  while his latest car ran on H2 and not an electrolytic cell, the big deal about his work was that he developed a hollow cell similar in appearance to Meyers.  at the top he positioned a modified spark plug to generate a potent spark with the electrode running through the center of this tube and residing in the piston chamber.  an inlet port was located in the middle of the tube where H2 gas was introduced and allowed to mix with air on it?s way directly into the piston chamber.  he and Meyers both had direct injection modified spark plug units.  anderson?s unit would allow hydrogen to enter along with ambient air, a fine mist of micron sized water droplets and a spark of up to 70Kv.

now.  to keep this as straightforward as i can about successful water cars in general and this is abbreviated.  the key as it relates to your project is in number 5.

1   electrolysis alone, it seems, is generally accepted as being insufficient to power a combustion engine beyond that of a small lawnmower.  even with a pulse generator to increase production, this appears to be insufficient to power a car motor.
2   hydrogen is a tiny molecule and suffers from having a low mass energy density.  hydrocarbon molecules are huge in comparison and their density is sufficient to move the internal workings of a motor.  hydrogen is so light it cannot do so as effectively.  this is why we hear rumors of hydrogen car conversions feeling like they have less or half power.
3   electromagnetism is a recurring theme in each of the successful water car examples with the exception of ?S1r9a9m9?.  this concept of electromagnetism is important because the ionizing of a gas is creating a plasma.  this conversion to the fourth state of matter creates more deuterium (D2) and a more powerful combustion than standard combustion of gases alone.  deuterium has an added neutron making the atom twice as dense as hydrogen.  plasma is a key element in the process as the added power of the gas now compensates for the lack of production ability of plain electrolysis.
4   ionizing or making hydrogen plasma can be accomplished in several ways, IR, UV, X-ray, microwaves and others.  the key frequency for each method is documented in research briefs around the net.  microwaves were mentioned previously, UV happens around 195nm and above.  the excitation frequency for x-rays, gamma rays, etc i haven?t bothered to investigate as they are not practical for the average Joe to dabble with.
5   the high power spark is necessary to ignite hydrogen and deuterium.  i have come to discover this is also critical for another function utilized by Meyers, Anderson and S1r9a9m9.  the spark is generally in the vicinity of 40-70Kv.  What is important with this detail and why Meyers and Anderson inject water directly into the chamber along with S1r9a9m9 using water exclusively is that the extremely high voltage causes the water to instantly steam and ?explode? although it does not combust.  this process produces an enormous expansion of the water as it heats and it does so with greater force than the combustion of gasoline. 

now i mention all this to say, while i'm not familiar with everything this guy S1r9a9m9 has done because his plans are so cryptic and unprofessional, it seems some of his procedures are not necessary today.  in 1999 a guy named bebich was granted a patent for a super spark plug capable of delivering up to 100 volts if i'm not mistaken.  patent number 6,581,581.  this aside, modern manufacturers use high voltage sparks now.  and there is a company you can locate online at www.pulstarplug.com that produces 100kv plugs that may work for you as well.

just wanted to bring this all to your attention and hope it works for you.  give them a try.  if the spark creates the thermal explosive energy needed to run the car, then that's a big deal.  second, if the power isn't so great, you can always add a cell afterwards.  the hydrogen would only help in the combustion process.  but to really get the power you want, you need plasma or charged/ionized gas.  to get this, you need additional energy and there is plenty of reading material out there with the details.

keep us posted dude.  and good luck.
suckapunks

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #50 on: May 13, 2008, 04:14:40 AM »
Paul has had limited success with just a standard coil and a bigger gap in his plugs.  Maybe there really isn't much to this system after all.  I'll keep digging around for more information.  S1r is about to post what he has been using for his new engine.  I'm looking forward to that.  Thank you for the information, it really helped!

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2008, 02:48:45 AM »
Man, rained out today.  For tomorrow, I'm going to gap my plugs to get a STRONGER spark.  This, coupled with the inverter and the diodes should work and give me a stronger spark that I desire.  Plus, I can make toast on the road =D  Haha!

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2008, 03:32:19 AM »
Hi Brian,

I just wanted to say that all the effort you are putting into this project is appreciated by many of us. Good luck, and I am hoping for your success. It would be great to see this work out for you.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2008, 02:40:15 AM »
Thanks Dave,
I built the box for the electronics (diodes) and wire connectors.  I'm also getting a new starter tomorrow so I can test the spark.  Man, can't wait to try out that inverter!  My box isn't the best in terms of craftsmanship, but I'd say it turned out pretty good! =D

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2008, 04:50:11 AM »
super,

if you are open to corresponding more conveniently, feel free to contact me at my email and i will be glad to reach back out to you.  have some ideas and want to discuss your progress in a more time efficient manner.

thanks,
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2008, 01:19:06 PM »
This is great, alot of people are now on board with this, they all are much further than I at this point!  Time for me to play catch up!  I hope the weather is good today.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2008, 04:00:25 AM »
Hi there, nothing to report lately.  Just hydrolocked the engine (gasp), I put too much water in.  Engine seems to be fine, I may have broken something.  It's not a big deal, I can easily find another test vehicle if it is broken beyond repair.  I need some non resistor plugs and low resistance wire.  Oh yeah, and something to gap the plugs with properly.  Tools tools tools!  Haha!  Another battery too so I can test my inverter circuit!  Making progress slowly...I tend to jump the gun and wind up spending more time working on a problem, I've already done that too many times with this project and will NOT do it again!

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« Reply #57 on: May 28, 2008, 03:13:45 PM »
I have been thinking about htis a little. What distributor are you using in this set up?

Seems the older point type may work best. Some performance type used 2 point setups.

If this is true you may not need 8 relays or 8 diode setups. Just 2. One for the inverter and one for the coil.

If you use a HEI electronic distributor this may not work the same.

Just some thoughts.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2008, 10:48:40 PM »
By the way How did you hydrolock it? I did see you got it running.  Did you change the advance while it was running?

Can you create a "Y" valve so that after it is running on gas slowly change the gas over to water? (after the car is at operating temp)

And was the water warm but not boiling?

Are you just dropping water into carb? or feeding it through the carb like it was gas?

I have a 4.0 jeep from 1980 inline 6 (well it is my father in law) that is being stored and a 1500watt Power inverter I would love the chance at putting the 2 together. I just lack the additional funds for needed parts

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2008, 11:22:57 PM »
I was being stupid and trying to run it with a bigger spark gap and no other modifications, bad idea.  I was just dropping the water through the carb with a spray bottle, now I took the carb off so I can spray a finer mist into the engine without the carb being in the way.  The engine and the water are both cold.  Tonight I'm hooking up the inverter to the diode array and testing the spark.  I might not get to it tonight, but hopefully tomorrow.  It's a regular points style distributor.  I need to figure out a way to "fog" the water into the engine so I don't have liquid in the cylinders that could potentially damage the engine.  Any ideas?  Anyway, I'm still working on this as time allows, I won't give up until I have this working, you have my word on that.  Graduation is slowing things a bit.

 

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