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Author Topic: My s1r9a9m9 replication!  (Read 460666 times)

Offline Shanti

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #300 on: July 04, 2008, 09:43:10 AM »
Chapeau! I shout a big "Respect" for this video-demo!

It shows, that the motor would run, but has problems sustaining the higher RPMs.

Maybe the motor doesn't get enough water to sustain the higher RPMs?
I personally think that most probabely a Plasma-Water Engine needs much more water than it would need gaz.
(As an example I see the youtube vid where one does see, that you get really quite big explosions if you use quite a big amount of water...)

Another reason could be, that the caps do not get recharged fast enough, but this would be easily checkable with an oscilloscope. But the kind how the motor dies, in my opinion more speaks for the out of water theory...

Maybe trying plugging a humidifier output to the air inlet of the motor would help. Just a guess. If it works better, excellent, if not, one point to draw from the list  ;)

And maybe adding a starter motor, would help adjusting, for you have a continuously defined condition.


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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
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Offline capacitor70

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #301 on: July 04, 2008, 09:53:23 AM »
It shows, that the motor would run, but has problems sustaining the higher RPMs.
Maybe the motor doesn't get enough water to sustain the higher RPMs?
I personally think that most probabely a Plasma-Water Engine needs much more water than it would need gaz.
Another reason could be, that the caps do not get recharged fast enough, but this would be easily checkable with an oscilloscope. But the kind how the motor dies, in my opinion more speaks for the out of water theory...

Maybe trying plugging a humidifier output to the air inlet of the motor would help. Just a guess. If it works better, excellent, if not, one point to draw from the list  ;)

I have taken very little trials with steam, change is obseverd but not confirm. better performs ....

Problems observed with water only (not steam)
many times it needs to clean spark plug, or wait until water on tip gets burn with LV DC, shorting of tip with water creates problem.
Diodes 6A4 gets very very hot and melts solder joints, but does not fail.
capacitor gets little hot, may be diode heating causes this problem...
rectifier must have higher rating...I dont know why 6A4, 6A10 diodes get shorted immidiatly as soon as I turn it on, but 1Amps 600V bridge rectifier worked..
I am using 50Amps rectifier and 330uF capacitor

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #302 on: July 04, 2008, 11:50:18 AM »
Diodes 6A4 gets very very hot and melts solder joints, but does not fail.
capacitor gets little hot, may be diode heating causes this problem...

Well that doesn't sound good.  What are the switching times of these diodes? Maybe they're too slow...
Or maybe if the plasma is really well developed and the resistance of the arc is almost 0, all energy gets dissipated in the diodes (instead of the plasma), which have quite a high voltage drop inherent.

To get rid of this, the only simple way I could imagine is to switch to a pure Trigatron-Scheme, which doesn't need diodes...
Or to try to damp the HV Spike right in front of the LV circuit with the help of some snubber cap, to protect the lv part without any diodes...
Surely then the HV first hast to reach the plug before it goes to the snubber!

Another idea could be to try to protect the lv part just with a small inductance. But this could be very critical in respect to the correct size for timing...If the inductance is too small, the lv part gets surged, if it is too big, the LV part isn't able to feed the arc soon enough, and no plasma will be made...

Bute these are just some ideas...

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #303 on: July 04, 2008, 12:34:41 PM »
@Cap70
Is that small motor on your video a two-cycle motor?  It kind of sounds like it is.  If so, are you using soluble oil to lube the bearings?

Were you able to adjust the timing of the magneto or are you using an external  automotive type ignition?

I have an electric start two-cycle engine, but i am wondering about rust and lube to the bearings in the crankcase.  And, also how to adjust the timing in a simple way with an magneto.  Of course, I realize each brand of motor is unique.

Thanks
Tishatang

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #304 on: July 04, 2008, 12:47:10 PM »
Is that small motor on your video a two-cycle motor?  It kind of sounds like it is.  If so, are you using soluble oil to lube the bearings?
It is four stroke 100CC two wheeler engine.

Were you able to adjust the timing of the magneto or are you using an external  automotive type ignition?
ignition timings are not modified.

I have an electric start two-cycle engine, but i am wondering about rust and lube to the bearings in the crankcase.  And, also how to adjust the timing in a simple way with an magneto.  Of course, I realize each brand of motor is unique.
Two sroke engine is not sutable for plasma system, water stays at bottom of piston.


These are some photos of carburator.

Which part of carburator is needed to modify to get it continuously running ?
I am not mechnical engineer please explain in detail, dont confuse me...
When I give choke it starts, without choke it dosent work at all....
« Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 01:44:50 PM by capacitor70 »

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Offline tishatang

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #305 on: July 04, 2008, 01:42:42 PM »
@Cap70

Thanks for you reply

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #306 on: July 04, 2008, 02:08:24 PM »
With Choke you reduse the air going to the engine, so it get's more gass. (water)
So the little thing (carb nozzle) with 82 on it should probably be bigger.

i see you got out the whole nozzle but for the 82 one the nozzle can be seperated form the tube its on.
so if you get an other one do not be surprised to get only this
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Sproeier1.jpg)

it think the second tube with 6 or 9 on in is the idle nozzle, i do not know if you can get a bigger one for that?


and srew in the air screw so it gets less air.

« Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 02:31:14 PM by Unicron »

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Offline xbox hacker

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #307 on: July 04, 2008, 04:11:04 PM »
Great work Cap70...i cant wait till your next video!

BTW... what design of yours are you running in the video? Is it the one with the SCR's or a older one??

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #308 on: July 04, 2008, 04:49:53 PM »
I don't know why luc created the other thread.  We have gotten excellent results with capacitor70's circuit.  User jcbx6 over in the waterfuel1978 group has gotten his volvo to run on water with the same circuit capcitor70 is using.  So over here we are making progress rapidly.  The postal service is slower than molasses so I still have to wait before I can get mine working too.

By the way, I don't think this system uses THAT much electricity that it would drain a battery.  You would need two, however, because the starter motor drags down the voltage so much it would put the inverter in self protect mode.

Looking good so far, full steam ahead.

Hi Sg, I created the other thread because I found that water explosion could be achieved without a large capacitive discharge and that seems to be very interesting and worth looking at just that. Also please note that S1R has said his system does not use capacitors. So, in order to not create confusion in this thread since you are using a different approach I started a new topic. At this time my updated circuit (on page one) of the topic I started uses only 1uf or 2uf depending on the inverter output.

Are you sure user jcbx6 at the waterfuel1978 group is saying his Volvo is working on water at this time?

@capacitor70 my congratulations :D to you in demonstrating that it is truly possible to get a ICE to run on water ;)

Keep up this important research :) we will find the way to get this done one way or another.

Luc

« Last Edit: July 04, 2008, 05:11:54 PM by gotoluc »

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #309 on: July 04, 2008, 05:03:59 PM »
Good Job Capacitor70 !!  ;D


Viewing your video i'm  thinked that wou engine needs more fuel (water)...remember , s1r9a9m9 said : "
ussing carburettor jets two sizes larger than normal".

And another probe that you can do is retard the ignition timming 35? degrees.


Amazing job ...really !!!!




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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #310 on: July 04, 2008, 05:32:03 PM »
Its not only my work, SuperGod, 22vision, resonanceman, Shanti guided me how to do it, I just followed steps...

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #311 on: July 04, 2008, 05:54:27 PM »
WOW !!!

Real Fire Works for the 4th of July!

Awesome work!

ALL YOU GUYS AND GALS ROCK !!!

IT WONT' BE LONG NOW !

lots of hard work but it will pay off.

Congraduations to everyone and cap70.

thanks,
mrock

bigger jets, switch mode ps - hz up

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #312 on: July 04, 2008, 05:55:05 PM »
Is that small motor on your video a two-cycle motor?  It kind of sounds like it is.  If so, are you using soluble oil to lube the bearings?
It is four stroke 100CC two wheeler engine.

Were you able to adjust the timing of the magneto or are you using an external  automotive type ignition?
ignition timings are not modified.

I have an electric start two-cycle engine, but i am wondering about rust and lube to the bearings in the crankcase.  And, also how to adjust the timing in a simple way with an magneto.  Of course, I realize each brand of motor is unique.
Two sroke engine is not sutable for plasma system, water stays at bottom of piston.


These are some photos of carburator.

Which part of carburator is needed to modify to get it continuously running ?
I am not mechnical engineer please explain in detail, dont confuse me...
When I give choke it starts, without choke it dosent work at all....


Capacitor70,

In the 2nd image on this page.  The jets need to be enlarged.  You may be able to find larger jets which would simply replace these which are in place.  These jets supply the amount of fuel to the venturi which meters the spray of fuel into the cobustion chamber.  Hope this helps.  If you can gain acccess to a schematic of the carburetor, you will see which jets lead to.  Here you will be able to adjust the jets for idle, run, and high speed, by enlarging the hole size, orifice of these jets.

GOOD LUCK!

HHHONOW

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #313 on: July 04, 2008, 06:03:46 PM »
Please explain me with reference to Jet diagram from above images, I am not mechnical engineer, I need to make big holes to all these three jets ???
Circuit used in working model.

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Re: My s1r9a9m9 replication!
« Reply #314 on: July 04, 2008, 06:24:14 PM »
@cap70
no not make bigger holes yourself, buy them, if you try to drill yourself you can break them or mess up the flow. or make them to big so you will flood your cylinder.

i replyd to your pm

 

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