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Author Topic: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle  (Read 10135 times)

Offline Esa Maunu

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OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« on: January 23, 2008, 12:14:43 PM »
I think that with a OC MPMM magnet motor operation principle it is a question of the nested, cylindrical EM fields around the device, that are able to collect charges from the environment. Every inner cylindrical EM field is little closer than the next outer field. When phase changes in a field, the charge moves towards the center of the system. To create such a fields, we need to have a prime numbers ( 1, 3, 5, 7 etc ) of the sending units around. This way it is not possible to create subharmonics patterns, but harmonic patters are possible and those harmonic patterns exists in a distance 2 x radius , 3 x radius etc, around the device. Because the ZPE has an electrical nature, this kind of system is able to compress the ZPE density. If we locally change the density of the ZPE, it leads to repulsion effect against all the mass structures, and makes the sytem to rotate.

To form such a cylindrical nested fields, we need to have a radiation from the device, to form one kind of trap to tap the ZPE and other charges around. This radiation happens, if we have a acceleratig charge in a device. We have this accelerating effect, if we use an off center rotation for the magnets, it means that there is an elliptical path where the charge travels, having a changing acceleration. I think that 1-2 mm off center rotation is enough, but off course the amount of the acceleration depends on the rpm of the device.
It is interesting that there can be similiaritives with a SEG ( Searl Effect Generator ) and with the measured results of Roscin & Godin SEG replication.
Roschin & Godin also measured cylindrical, nested magnetic fields around the device. Roschin & Godin SEG replication was build to stand on springs to allow the vibration ( vibration is an accelerating effect ).
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Here is also link to one  Java applet, that demonstrates the behaviour of the charge radiation in a movement with a accelerating, elliptical path.

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~phys1/java/phys1/MovingCharge/MovingCharge.html

Esa

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Offline Esa Maunu

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2008, 08:53:34 AM »
Here you can find some more information, it explains also, why such a fields are usually unstable and have a lifetime under, say 100s , to collect charged particles from the environment. If you have a system, where the field walls can only exsists in a given place, it leads to stable field structure.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0705/0705.1139v1.pdf

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Esa

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2008, 12:02:29 PM »
Here you can find some more information, it explains also, why such a fields are usually unstable and have a lifetime under, say 100s , to collect charged particles from the environment. If you have a system, where the field walls can only exsists in a given place, it leads to stable field structure.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0705/0705.1139v1.pdf

Esa

Link is not accessible for me. I got 'Forbidden'
Maybe you can post this pdf here as attached file?

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2008, 12:02:29 PM »
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Offline Esa Maunu

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2008, 01:59:02 PM »
Here is the file.

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2008, 05:21:46 PM »
My thoughts have been evolving torwards 'Magnetic Reconnection' which Bruce_TPU brought up:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2300.465.html In his 'Bruce's TPU Theory and Experiments ver.1.2' thread. But I'm thinking it can also be applied here.

(http://www.phonecotech.com/Overu/MagRe.gif)

This image came from wikipedia's page on Magnetic Reconnection:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_reconnection

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2008, 05:21:46 PM »
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Offline Esa Maunu

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2008, 07:25:15 PM »
@slapper,

Magnetic reconnection is a interesting theory, but it requires a plasma density that is able to conduct current through the air. If there is current through a plasma, so plasma heats up to be a hot plasma. There was not a mention about that with a Al`s device.
On the other hand, there was a visible plasma on a rollers surface with a Roschin & Godin SEG replication, although it was a cold plasma. 

Esa

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 06:36:06 AM »
Have to admit that I was reaching on this one. What attracted me to Magnetic Reconnection was images like this:
(http://www.phonecotech.com/OverU/MagR2.gif)
from this power point document:
http://www.glue.umd.edu/~drake/talks/reconnection/reconn_general.ppt
What I see is a set of magnetic field lines moving in opposite directions creating what could be some sort of magnetic eddys. I'm curious if these eddys could carry momentum on top of the mass rotation of the rotor and stator. These 'eddys' could be the reason for AGW. My way of applying Magnetic Reconnection to the OC Motor fails when considering that not all rotor magnets are pointed in the same direction.

I'm thinking vibration plays a role as well requiring a tuned system to function the way we would like. :)

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nap

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
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Offline Esa Maunu

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 05:11:35 PM »


I'm thinking vibration plays a role as well requiring a tuned system to function the way we would like. :)

Take care.

nap


I think that vibration is needed to have a radiation pattern from accelerating charge, to collect energy from the environment. Maybe we can have better results, if we have a system, where the amount of acceleration is equal to every direction. If we have only a off center rotation, so amount of acceleration varies when the disk turns, and is stronger in a point, where the charge point turns in a elliptical path. To avoid this, we can for example build the whole device to stand on springs, so that the elliptical turn point changes.

Esa

Offline Esa Maunu

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2008, 10:23:21 AM »
This is a part of discussion under topic Duraluminium disk phenomena :


"When the flux of an N-pole cuts the flux of an S-pole such that the
tensor fields experience the maximum tendency to repel (pi/2), we create
an electric field in whatever gap exists between the sources of the
flux.   We will also, a priori, because of the fact that the disk does
not rotate its magnets in concentricity with those on the outer wall, be
setting up a variation of transfer of angular momentum of the
electromagnetic field associated with the electric field cutting flux
all the time the disk is turning.  This eccentricity has an interesting
locus and traces out a cylindrical path of wall-thickness equal to twice
the original eccentricity of the magnet ring on the disk (when
stationary)."

Esa

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
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Offline Esa Maunu

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2008, 11:46:20 AM »
Here you can find information about nested well / particle traps, and how such a particle trap can collect energy from the environment.

http://digital.library.unt.edu/permalink/meta-dc-2647:1

Esa

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2008, 06:50:57 PM »
  Hi Esa - studying the SEG operation and it is reported to have one complete phase of sine wave AC for each 360 deg turn of a roller magnetically imprinted, in addition to the DC imprint axially along the
roller.  The fixed center stator is magnetically imprinted with a sine wave AC phase circumferentially around the stator along with a vertical DC imprint.  The rollers and stator are then 90 deg out of phase at all times.   So any radial movement of electrons from the stator starts the rollers turning, essentially a
two phase induction motor. 
  In the SEG, since the rollers are rolling AND orbiting the stator, each charge point on a roller follows a cycloidal path around the fixed stator.  This would cause changing acceleration and thereby the nested fields, correct?  In the OCPMM device the stators are simply rotating and therefore require an off center rotation to produce changing acceleration and the nested fields according to theory, is that right?

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Re: OC MPMM Magnet motor operation principle
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