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wattsup

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #270 on: March 31, 2008, 09:09:49 PM »
@AC

Thanks for the mod. I will try it when I get home. Can't wait.

@am1ll3r

That has been the proverbial question I have had to struggle with even today as it was not really made clear. I think to answer this in either way, someone really has to go out on the limb, so to speak.

Technically, it is supposed to be the negative out and positive in, but when you look at most circuit diagrams, it is in reverse. Don't know why, but it is. I would be curious to know also what Erfinder and AC would say about this and others.

Just to let you know, Erfinder had already confirmed to me in this thread that the positive on the ozone patent is Terminal A which is the positive in the circuit.

I alwasy think back to the lines regarding positive attracts positive, etc., but Erfinder asked me to remove it because it was not time to talk about this then. But when you think in terms of current flow, this may confirm that the current leaves the battery from the negative and returns via the positive. negative repells, positive attracts, etc. I'll leave it at that.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #271 on: April 01, 2008, 01:20:54 AM »
Tesla may not have specified, because it may not matter.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #272 on: April 01, 2008, 01:51:14 AM »
BTW
@allcanadian
Thank You for your explanation the other day:)

I think I have a good idea whats going on here ... well at least what suppose to go on. My circuit is set up exactly like the ozone patent with the addition of a choke. With my limited  parts I have I have built a test set up and what I am seeing is on the working side ( the secondary I tried several caps to cancel the self induction of it and the best one working for me is a HV cap from a microwave 2300W VAC 1.14mF) While I have the circuit running I can charge this cap up to about 400V almost instantly. It will run a relay no problem AC or DC. I next tried running some Christmas lights and then just ended up using one for testing. I found varying the timing (adjusting my break points on my circuit controller I get various results with the light. I would say my set is a hodgepodge of parts that at best are good for a learning whats going on here. I don't think I can get good results until I get the exact parts that are specific for a determined load.

 
Has anyone built a biflar coil like (COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS) and tested with this setup. If so how did you make the coil...I was trying to wind one but it turned into a mess. Do they have to be pancake style or can you get the came results (no self induction) by winding them in another fashion?

I think it would be cool as a test bed to run a kids electric scooter on this technology ;D but is it our goal here to use this technology to run our current AC and DC devices or is a stepping stone to new kinds of motors etc...? I would love to think we can build something with everyday accessible  parts and have real world usage.

I know I still have allot to learn but I have a feeling that this will work and others will soon start see it. Thanks so far to everyone for opening my eyes up to this and I hope we can collectively replicate this technology and make working devices.

here is a rather crappy video of my one Christmas light  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7ZIksjG7M0





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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #273 on: April 02, 2008, 02:55:47 PM »
@anyone
Can you tell me what way initial current from the battery flows? positive to negative or negative to positive...

I believe Ed Leedskalnin had the answer and made a demonstration too.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #274 on: April 02, 2008, 03:01:03 PM »
Hi Erfinder,

as I understand it the secondary wound bifilar has to be driven at its resonant freq to do its magic acting as a cap. Do you think a normal secondary could drive a separate bifilar coil? I mean like the magnifier setup where the transformer feeds a third resonator (in this case bifilar) with only one wire. Maybe that way many bifilars in series could then be tapped.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #275 on: April 05, 2008, 04:05:24 PM »
hi guys im still around

i know what the problem is with this thing....

there is just too many ways it can work

i like the ed talk this will take us miles....

i have built many more awsome motors .... and i will show them but not till some more people get on the same page

keep in mind i have not ran them yet  8)

1 more thing to keep in mind is if it is a motor it is also a generator  ;) so i got some 6" and 5"  cores made of water pipe to play around with

i choose to use a iron or steel core material so that my magnetic feild is inside not out side the coil as it is with  copper so i was gonna use a mot tesla ozone circuit to drive the motor  i actually got 40 cores 20 5" and 20 6" to expairment with

 

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #276 on: April 05, 2008, 07:37:29 PM »
@IS

You are so right about so many ways to make this work. lol

@ACs circuit correction on my AC Trial #1 circuit diagram works perfectly well also, and without using the second terminals of the DPDT relay. I actually got a 600 volts shock by holding my diode. lol OUCH my arm hurts. lol

I have also noticed with my scope connected at two locations on the circuit side that as the working capacitor increases in charge, the voltage in the circuit side increases as well. As if the circuit side is being pushed back or being compressed more and more to overcome the voltage rise on the working side. 

I am still not at the second relay stage although I have managed with some of the caps to get the second relay to work but it works simultaneously to the first. Trying to work out the second relay to pulse once at let's every 10 main relay pulses will require some further thinking if using just the components permitted in the EC. I can always cheat and use a second diode (zenor diode) on the working circuit that would open at let's say 12 or 15 volts to pulse the relay, etc. I'll try it anyways.

There is a link I put in @GKs thread that I will also put here just to not lose it.

You can read the whole page but in general here is some nice information that everyone should look at. Look at the schematic diagram. http://www.thewebfairy.com/missilegate/rfz/swaz/chapter13.htm#e

The whole doc starts here;
http://www.thewebfairy.com/missilegate/rfz/swaz/

There is a nice write up on Viktor Schauberger: Rotational Physics and Extreme Temperature Gradients and so much more on this site that it would take hours and  hours to read. It is in the Nazi Germany time and discusses the many many research projects that were done and how many of the scientists then went to the USA to further it. VS was also forced to work for the Nazis and also thereafter for the USA. Crazy stuff. Both sides were searching for ZPE very actively.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #277 on: April 05, 2008, 08:19:25 PM »
hi guys im still around

i know what the problem is with this thing....

there is just too many ways it can work

i like the ed talk this will take us miles....

i have built many more awsome motors .... and i will show them but not till some more people get on the same page

keep in mind i have not ran them yet  8)

1 more thing to keep in mind is if it is a motor it is also a generator  ;) so i got some 6" and 5"  cores made of water pipe to play around with

i choose to use a iron or steel core material so that my magnetic feild is inside not out side the coil as it is with  copper so i was gonna use a mot tesla ozone circuit to drive the motor  i actually got 40 cores 20 5" and 20 6" to expairment with

 

ist



Sorry, im gonna have to disagree here, there is only one way this circuit can work, it can work the first time you make it if you think it through, the relationships have been stated, resonance was stated, now someone just has to do the leg work and link it all together, and its easier to figure out first then build........

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #278 on: April 05, 2008, 10:45:05 PM »
Yes, I think there is only one way this can work. And it is determined by the coils and their mutual relationship as much as it is determined by configuration. I think the switching side of it is actually supposed to be quite simple.....the frequency just needs to be right.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #279 on: April 06, 2008, 05:01:57 PM »
@ armma

i guess it all depends on how you read the pattends eh?   if you take them as they are presented then it may infact only work 1 way .....
but if you read between the lines things become clear  ;)

just like O U you got to read between the bs

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i really have no desire to make a working unit my turbines are  my dreams ....   perhaps i will call my latest additions to the coil family my electric turbines ;)

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #280 on: April 07, 2008, 12:54:36 AM »
@all

Here is something very interesting regarding @ACs correction of the Trail #1 shown above.

Well the choke I am using is the secondary of one of my toroid transformers. With this setup I was not getting enough juice off the working circuit to run my relay and have some left over. Without the relay, the voltage on the working circuit would rise very gradually to around 400 volts. But it took considerable time.

So I took the primary of the transformer used as a choke and connected it parallel to the first relay coil.

As soon as I started up the system I got 1450 volts off the working circuit with no load. When I connected the second relay as a  load, it would click away strongly and the voltage would hold at around 26 volts.

Also, my battery voltage went from 12.2 to 11.9 while it was working but as soon as I stopped the system, voltage went back up to 12.2. hehehe.

I think what is happening is as the choke is being loaded, it is also getting an extra punch from the primary and the resulting discharge of the cap is even stronger giving an instantaneous high voltage on the working side.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #281 on: April 12, 2008, 05:05:50 AM »
@wattsup
Now that you have the circuit correct there are some other neat experiments one can build easily. If you replace the primary/secondary with a full wave rectifier and connect a low turn PM DC motor to this rectifier it can be seen that the series ocillations will power this motor very efficiently. On page one of this thread I posted some scopeshots which show a dampened oscillation starting at 250v, Now consider what we normally do to power a DC motor--- when connected to a battery the current travels through the DC motor once then discharges the battery.The scopeshot I posted shows a dampened oscillation which alternates 10 times before the forces balance, in my rectified DC motor circuit I have this same number of oscillations--- that is the current has moved through the DC motor 10 times longer, diminishing in amplitude with each alternation but flowing none the less. What is very interesting is the fact that the more loaded the DC motor is the longer the oscillations, the longer the oscillations the more work done which verified my thoughts that a highly loaded or stalled motor can act like an inductor thus conserving its energy in an oscillatory circuit. This experiment was based on a something Tesla had mentioned---that is the circuit as posted can be the "working circuit" in the right circumstances.
Another experiment uses the circuit mentioned above but does not load the DC motor persay, a spinner with many heavy washers is attached to the shaft of the DC motor which acts as a flywheel. We now have a way to store energy as inertia which can be easily measured, a few quick impulses into the working circuit will accelerate the motor storing the energy in the flywheel as motion. Once the oscillations have stopped the rapidly spinning motor is switched into a load circuit at which point the motor will act as a generator and power the load. I like this experiment because it shows inertia in action--- the fact that a motor having inertia can act as a generator. The only issue I have with this circuit is that the load is not a resonant load, that is there is no capacitor in the load circuit with which to produce alternating currents. As you progress you will find this is a reaccuring problem, conventional DC and AC are inefficient but many conventional loads require them--- our electronic loads for the most part demand consistent power supplies.
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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #282 on: April 12, 2008, 03:30:34 PM »
@AC

Thanks again for the in. I have a nice 90vdc 1 amp motor that just may be the right match for this. It has good rotary response at even lower voltages. This is the same motor is used to see the reverse current effect. Will try it out.

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #283 on: April 23, 2008, 08:29:15 PM »
@AC or others

Here is a question about your circuit because I think it may tie in very well with what we are doing on the Jack Durban thread regarding the FPTU.

OK, regarding your circuit, where you have put the switch, what if I take a zener diode and a regular diode, connect them in parallel but reverse, so power can go from positive, through the zener diode (but not through the regular diode) to between the choke and primary.

Here is what I am thinking. Let's say my battery is 6 volts. Since the zener diode requires a minimum voltage of lets say 5 volts before it can open. So I apply voltage, the voltage rises to 5 volts and the zener diode closes, making a short circuit. At the short, the flyback from the primary or inductor can travel back through the other standard diode. Since the battery is shorted, the voltage drops to zero again, opening the zener diode, then the voltage rises again closing the zener and making the next short circuit. The idea of having a second diode facing the other way is to provide a path of return to source.

I am trying to find a away to do pulsing without a transistor, mosfet or relay. I think the zener diode may work but wanted to have some comments on the feasibility. because if this can work, I think I would know how the FTPU can get its pulsing action. lol

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #284 on: April 24, 2008, 07:49:35 PM »
Hi everyone,

I might be repeating this info (the search did not find anything relatively close to this on this site) but this video is impressive. Looks like a working model of Tesla transformer built by a guy from Georgia (exUSSR) about two years ago.

http://rapidshare.com/files/97746300/free-energy.geo.part1.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/97748778/free-energy.geo.part2.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/97751167/free-energy.geo.part3.rar.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/97753249/free-energy.geo.part4.rar.html