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AhuraMazda

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2008, 01:34:36 PM »
Now that we are in agreement about the "mirrored" similarities of inductors and capacitors;
If we abruptly interrupt the current flow through an inductor, we get a cemf therefore,
if we abruptly remove the voltage across a capacitor do we get a reaction similar to a mirror of cemf?

allcanadian

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2008, 05:36:14 PM »
@AhuraMazda
In my scope shot I see two currents, the inductor produces an inductive discharge current of over 250v, this current charges the capacitor. The charged capacitor then discharges back into the inductor, the 40v waveform.
So we could say both L and C are transformers----
-L transforms conventional current into high potential inductive discharge current
-C transforms high potential inductive discharge current into conventional current

I think this relates to Teslas radiant energy reciever, there was an article on teslas "new discovery" that an LC circuit in oscillation would change frequency as a capacity was changed in elevation. I attributed this to the changing potential, earth having a "static" potential of 100v/meter. But I feel there is something Im not seeing here, something very important and probably quite simple I haven't figured out.
There is also some remarks armagdn03 made regarding "kicks" and capacitance of a single wire I found very interesting, how can a single wire have capacitance? I think the wire may be one "plate" and the space surrounding the conductor the other "plate" of a capacitor.
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barbosi

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2008, 07:22:42 PM »

- C - converts the high potential discharge current into high frequency high potential discharge current!


In agreement, this was considered common knowledge in his time as Tesla said.
If time is too short for reading about what he said, just think about it.
Two vertical tubes containing water at different levels [different potentials] are suddenly connected in the bottom with a rubber tube. How is the flow? oscillating? Now about the "high frequency" statement... think about a different liquid with different density... Funny thing though, electric current or electric potentials as have been thought, seem not to care about gravity.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2008, 07:49:39 PM by barbosi »

Ren

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2008, 09:57:46 PM »


The development of conventional current is out of the question in the local circuit, it must be remembered the working circuit is where the conventional current is to be developed and the load attached. The working circuit begins at the secondary.  It is here in the working circuit where a larger capacity capacitor is placed, this large capacity steps down the high frequency high potential discharge current into a low frequency, low potential (conventional) current. 


Is this how the load is isolated from the source? An open path circuit ..??

Your comments on time I found interesting. They made me sit back and think. I have always seen time as a measurement only, like hey its lunch time :D. And if it is more? Are these pulses and waveforms a function of time, or does it flow all around us, and the waveforms imersed within?


Ren

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2008, 01:36:44 AM »
Thankyou Erfinder. Funnily enough I have all the parts at home bar the transformer. I think I may just need to go and do just that...."think" that is.

I will compile and tinker (studying the patent of course) and see what I come up with.

lancaIV

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2008, 02:26:01 AM »
To "Ren": your definition is not right !
Aprove, at first ,your own statement,then you should begin with different experiments,
"primary" and "secondary" related !

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Schpankme

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2008, 08:20:42 AM »
What is the relationship between ... four dimensional time/space geometry?

not prepared (yet) to accept the reality of an underlying fundamental mechanism which is beyond the reaches of the five senses.
The concept of time...


You people sound like a fortune cookie.
Time is a measurement, just like Speed and Distance.

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M@rcel

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2008, 09:16:31 PM »
Time is our invention to augment the 3D limitation of our senses. In other words: We use time as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

So, imagine a deflated balloon at t=0, half inflated at t=1 and fully inflated at t=2. When looking at this with 4D senses, one would see all states of this balloon at once. Because of the 3D limitation of our senses, we introduce time to order all occurences of this one balloon. Imagine we observe a half inflated balloon with our 3D senses (t=1), we cannot look back to t=0 and we cannot look forward to t=2, we only sense the 3D projection of the 4D balloon. Using 4D senses, however, we can see all occurences of the balloon at once. To a 3D-limited-observer, this feels like looking at the past, present and future all at once.

I think... 8)

Schpankme

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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2008, 09:29:09 PM »
Time is our invention to augment the 3D limitation of our senses. In other words: We use time as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

So what your saying is:

 o We use time as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

 o We use distance as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

 o We use speed as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

 o We use other measurements as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

 o We use theroy as a substitute of us not being able to see/sense the actual 4th dimension.

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M@rcel

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2008, 09:33:21 PM »
Distance? I don't think so but speed has a time component, so yes.

btw I edited my previous post in  an attempt to clarify better

Schpankme

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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2008, 09:55:45 PM »
Time is our invention to augment the 3D limitation of our senses. So, imagine a deflated balloon at t=0, half inflated at t=1 and fully inflated at t=2.

M@rcel,

So this 4th Dimension (your independent variable) just became 'the' ever changing CLOCK ?  < -- You're detecting change; please don't fool yourselves into thinking your measuring something physical; which us 3D limited folks call time.

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wattsup

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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2008, 10:25:13 PM »
@Erfinder

OK, I got all my parts but the transformer is 240vac to 24vac, but I do not think this will hurt. If so, I will find the right one. I have only one question. Actually the question will probably answer itself but here goes anyways.

In your circuit, there is nothing apparent to drive, like a light bulb or a small motor. I am sure you did not forget to include this because it is not required. So this project is to see something operate on its own, maybe without depleting the battery, but not also running a load. I guess I just answered my own question. So let' start.



M@rcel

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2008, 10:25:41 PM »
So this 4th Dimension (your independent variable) just became 'the' ever changing CLOCK ?  < -- You're detecting change; please don't fool yourselves into thinking your measuring something physical; which us 3D limited folks call time.
I don't think that that is what I am saying, not sure though. What I mean is that we, at a single moment, see only a 3D projection of a 4D object, using time to properly(?) synchronise all these 3D images.

I can imagine that a change in 3D can mean just a relocation of a 4D object along the, for us, hidden dimension

armagdn03

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Re: The Tesla Project
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2008, 12:16:14 AM »
@Erfinder

OK, I got all my parts but the transformer is 240vac to 24vac, but I do not think this will hurt. If so, I will find the right one. I have only one question. Actually the question will probably answer itself but here goes anyways.

In your circuit, there is nothing apparent to drive, like a light bulb or a small motor. I am sure you did not forget to include this because it is not required. So this project is to see something operate on its own, maybe without depleting the battery, but not also running a load. I guess I just answered my own question. So let' start.




In the circuit diagram, there is always a load. And according to the physics of the components in question to be driven, a change will be placed on the driving circuit. Many times loads throw the driving circuit out of ressonance, such loads tend to be inductive, such as wire wound motors, Other loads resistive which lower the Q, or the time the secondary circuit oscillates. take your load into consideration when building a perfect circuit.

Ren

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2008, 03:59:24 AM »
wattsup, I am studying the patent too, although I am not ready to replicate it entirely yet. My (basic) understanding is that it is more about the transformation of power rather than the utilization of that power (which can follow once one understands the principals).

I am thinking out loud, so please forgive as I am sure you're further ahead and able to comprehend it better than me.

I am leaning towards the relays replacing the drive coils of the fan pictured in the circuit, with the button to trip the relays.
Power to the primary is interupted by the switch+relays and flows through the smaller cap.
Secondary would flow the high voltage potential into the large cap, compressing it so to speak into a lower voltage/higher current.

I am still not certain of the diode, but perhaps I will see it better with the parts infront of me.