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Offline tinu

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2008, 04:07:02 PM »
  By "big oil"?    Of course I think this is ridiculous, but ....


Nice ricochet!
I wonder if it was it from the ground and what if not.

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #106 on: January 28, 2008, 04:40:36 PM »
@DQ (aka @modervador),

Stop insulting me by ignoring my argument and substituting it by spewing stupidities. You're waging an ad hominem attack at me by continuously cluttering this and other threads with semi-truths and outright lies. This should stop or it will get ugly.  I have no friends but the truth and anyone such as you abusing the truth is my enemy.

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2008, 04:51:46 PM »
@DA, psychopath,Bessler, tinu

Today I acquire 4 powerful bar magnets, and so begins my journey into the world of smot, it does have some interesting features such as the ball dropping out of the magnetic field due to gravity.

I'm going to rigorously prove that I can power my pedalec with smot  (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/grin.gif)

On a serious note, magnets are fun to play with!

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #107 on: January 28, 2008, 04:51:46 PM »
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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #108 on: January 28, 2008, 04:52:02 PM »
@DQ (aka @modervador),

Stop insulting me by ignoring my argument and substituting it by spewing stupidities. You're waging an ad hominem attack at me by continuously cluttering this and other threads with semi-truths and outright lies. This should stop or it will get ugly.  I have no friends but the truth and anyone such as you abusing the truth is my enemy.

Ok, that's 20 out of 107.

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2008, 04:58:15 PM »
psychopath,

The SMOT is a pendulum action where the ball falls into a magnetic field then out of it with the assistance of gravity.  Any energy the ball gains by magnetism is lost when gravity pulls it out of the magnetism.  With gravity's assistance the ball repays the magnet for the energy it added to it, less friction and other losses.

This is interesting.  A series of magnets add to the kinetic energy of the ball and gravity only has to overcome the magnetism of the final (few?) magnets.  Even at that there isn't sufficient energy in the ball to return to the gravitational potential it left from.

I think even as an overunity device the SMOT is a poor example.

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This is an ad hominem attack.

Stop insulting me by ignoring my argument without any basis and substituting it by complete nonsense.

SMOT isn't a pendulum. In SMOT, according to the analysis I present, the input energy (mgh1 - (Ma - Mb)) imparted to the ball is less than the energy which the ball loses when it returns to its initial state. This is a clear violation of CoE. This argument you must not ignore and if you continue to ignore it I'd ask Stefan to ban you for continuous ad hominem attack. This is too much.

Before accusing people of ad hominem attacks you should perhaps find out what an ad hominem attack is. Don't quote Latin if you don't know what it means.

"Your argument is worthless" is NOT an ad hominem attack, "You are worthless" is.

Perhaps you are clever enough to see the difference.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #109 on: January 28, 2008, 04:58:15 PM »
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Offline Omnibus

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #110 on: January 28, 2008, 05:14:34 PM »
Anyone deliberately ignoring my analysis and substituting it by with outright nonsense is committing a personal attack at me. This is an insult. This should be known very well. An insult is an ad hominem attack independent of whether it is expressed through polite arrogance and passive aggression, as some here do, or is spelled out explicitly.

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« Reply #111 on: January 28, 2008, 06:55:08 PM »

Perhaps you are clever enough to see the difference.

Hans von Lieven


Then again, perhaps not.

DA

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« Reply #111 on: January 28, 2008, 06:55:08 PM »
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Offline supersam

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #112 on: January 28, 2008, 06:56:44 PM »
omnibus,

it is quite possible, that you can substitute, in matematics real numbers to us in your equtions please do so.  for example there are real numbers for the kinetic drop of the ball.  can you please post some real numbers to take out some of the variables in your equation, that you are saying demonstrates violation of coe?  if not i think the 1=2 equation sums up your mathematics quite summarily! 

i have noticed, that you have ignored my suggestion to do so.  however i am confident that you will and can, since this has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.  can't wait for you to really show all of these naysayers the real numbers, not just a bunch of variables that have no real meaning to these dumbasses that can't understand your obvious algebraic proof.  do they simply not know how to do math?  or are your algebraic equations simply flawed?  only the real numbers for all of these variables will show them i am afraid.  as probably you should be when you actually look at the equations with the real numbers.


lol
sam

ps: i can hardly wait for your response.  to see who is gibbering now!

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #113 on: January 28, 2008, 07:48:19 PM »
@Hans

Not many people realize how many Tenses of latin verbs their are...   Id say DA is a  parvus puella canis  but to each their own.  Was that clever or does it not count cause ive taken a few years of laitn... 5 acctually. :)

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #113 on: January 28, 2008, 07:48:19 PM »
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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #114 on: January 28, 2008, 08:11:19 PM »
@ Joe,

The joys of a classical education. You can throw crap at someone and they don't even know. LOL

Hans

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #115 on: January 28, 2008, 08:20:50 PM »
@ Joe,

The joys of a classical education. You can throw crap at someone and they don't even know. LOL

Hans


Hi Hans,

I think Localjoe said "small girl dog", ROFLMAO.  I enjoyed that.  I don't know Latin, I had to look it up, so that probably isn't a good translation. 

Well done,

DA

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #115 on: January 28, 2008, 08:20:50 PM »
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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2008, 08:27:53 PM »
Well, I think he meant the colloquial translation small, or "little bitch". LOL

Hans

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2008, 08:52:15 PM »

@at all,

what does this have to do with the real numbers?  are you all just to scared to look at them?  what a little bunch of name callers.  at least wait on omnibus to give us some real numbers to compute with his "real formula", before righting him out as, "a stupid little bitch'!

LOL
SAM











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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #118 on: January 28, 2008, 09:02:22 PM »
@ supersam

The little bitch comment was not leveled at Omnibus, this one went to DA.

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Re: DEBATE THREAD
« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2008, 09:13:32 PM »
@HANS,

oh, i see now! my mistake.  but i still have not seen any real numbers from omnibus or anyone else for that matter to backup your points one way or the other.  maybe there are several of those, what did you callums!  as far as i can see nobody wants to put the "rubber to the road", just a bunch of theoretical formulas of bs, on both sides of the coin!  so who is the bitch?!

lol
sam

ps:  SHOW ME THE REAL NUMBERS, NOT A F-ING FORMULA!

 

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