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Offline AB Hammer

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Possible runner for real
« on: January 14, 2008, 01:20:08 PM »
Well! Well! Some one may have beaten us to it.

This was posted on another forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZItT-XqqrHE

It seems to work kind of slow but we will see, now that it has been exposed. But it is very big for only 250 watts of out put. A little more than 3 light bulbs of 75 watt each. I feel even if it was done, I think we can do allot better on power to make it even practicable.


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Possible runner for real
« on: January 14, 2008, 01:20:08 PM »

Offline sevich

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 01:51:20 PM »
Hey Hammer boy!

I don't agree!  I think it's not legitimate! ... Way too much power (watts) generated for such a slow rotation....then again, I'm only a backyard mechanic, what would I know ?



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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 04:59:59 PM »
Sorry boys,

My feeling is it is just another scam. The video posted is of very poor quality and was made in 1993. That is 15 years ago. You would think they would have come up with a better video since then. They claim to have patented the device in over 20 countries but give no details. There is no website and no way given to contact the inventor not even the inventor's name is mentioned, just some "Business Developer" who is trying to raise money. That business developer has only just now surfaced with a shit video from 1993. I smell some guy trying a rip off with old footage of whatever that thing is.

Hans von Lieven

Incidentally, 300 KVA is not 250 Watts, it is about 240 KW.

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Re: Possible runner for real
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Offline mscoffman

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2008, 05:35:13 PM »
Since this is a 1993 era movie this probably is the 15KVA version = 15KW resistive.

Any time you see belts and pulleys in a mechanism You should think:
possible "Van De GRAF generator - static electrical management!". as 99%
efficient machinery + environmental energy = overunity.Then the guy can
claim any old bizarre nonsense mechanical theory for the overunity. But
you know that a  mechanism needs to have a lower center of gravity at
the end than at the beginning to have supplied mechanical energy so that
is not it.  ;)   MSCoffman

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 06:41:13 PM »
hansvonlieven

 Thanks for responding, I know you have seen many fakes.  I will admit I kind of hope so, for it still give us a chance instead of a 15year old surprise. That tends to be so disappointing of time lost due to the challenge that was given me thinking that it hadn't ben done.

 Here is what it said at PESWiki.com that threw me off.

This machine has been under development since 1967. The first working model was demonstrated in 1993 and allegedly put out 15 KVA. The present model allegedly puts out 300 KVA (~250 Watts).

I saw the 250 watts.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2008, 02:21:26 AM by AB Hammer »

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Offline mscoffman

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 07:33:15 PM »
I'm not claiming it is fake, it real overunity but it just is not ZPE overunity.
And as we know only with real ZPE overunity could one replace fueled
processes without any additional environmental concerns.The problem
is only ZPE zero point energy overunity violates the scientific law of
conservation of matter/energy and therefore within a certain range of
probabilities does not exist...We need a demonstration, If someone
has one let us see it.

I don't think my position is ridiculous, I simply want to see for myself
that there is no additional environmental concerns since these apparently
are so difficult for inventors to uncover.

There are four processes that keep coming up and these may have some utility
in the real world energy processes;

a) Management of static electrical characteristic
             - as arbiter of electrical charge recruitment and the electroweak nuclear force
b) CF cold fusion in hydrogen based chemical reactions and phase changes
             - CF-IECR induced endothermic chemical reaction -> CF-TE transmutation of elements in metal matrises
c) Magnetic Power Field Mill - Inflating DC-magnetic bubble fields to couple into power existing in stray AC magnetic fields.
d) The Hand Magnet and the Derivative Mechanical Differential.

With these three above concepts one can explain many of the primary effects side effects as seen
on this overunity board and the secondary effects as well. These are theoretical but seem to have
good explanatory power. I don't consider them "fake" but they tend confuse the issues.

MSCoffman

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 02:35:58 PM »
I dont know what to say about this, weather I think it is real or not, but it is strange why it hasnt been on the news since it was patented, I suppose it could be fake, but then again i got Grade A and has been tested so if it is fake, then the motive power must be well hidden.

Alex

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Offline SomedayIsle

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 09:23:22 PM »

If it don't pass the 911 test.....


Then, no go.  Not much does these days.  If it don't please the bankers then it ain't got much chance.


Just look how far the sock muppets on the hill will go to please them....


Sad truth is, people are so apathetic, so dazed and udderly contused, that I doubt simple, open, free energy would bring them out of their collective stupor.


MR

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »
that utube vid has been posted many times since i started reading the OU forum, and each time its been rubbished(i even posted it my self once).

i think someone suggested that if you listen you can hear it running possibly on compressed air.

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2009, 12:47:07 AM »
Greetings all

 I posted this in Jan 08. At first if fooled me for a short time, but no longer. You can here the air pistons in it so it has to have energy in before it gets energy out. The reason we don't see much of it, is it is bulky, loud and not practical. IMO

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2009, 01:06:09 AM »
I WAS friends with an Armenian scientist/inventor until last year [not good] ,and yes I have seen this posted on this forum several times.

Hard to believe someone would build that as a circus act?

It says PATENTED??

I guess I'll bite my lip and ask the Armenian if he'll look up the patent [and for some insight]

Chet

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Re: Possible runner for real
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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 01:17:09 AM »
ramset

 If you watch the latest video you will see the someone flip a switch and the machine stops. I have a copy of the patent as well. I keep seeing red flags (so to speak).

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 01:32:45 AM »
ABHammer
They say"" only stops with a brake""[switch??]

I only saw your link at the 1'st post .Do you have another video link ,and patent info? My exfriend is
A Mega Scientist/inventor, has patents on the landing struts and many other mech devices for the Lunar Module/rover

Chet
Ps  and as I said he is an Armenian [fluent]

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 01:40:19 AM »
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They say"" only stops with a brake""


Well, when you invest considerable expenditure for a behemoth contraption without first reducing the principle to practice in model form.....


Look on the bright side, supposedly 'greater' minds have spent far more on even greater boondoggles....


The letters L....H....and C readily jump to mind.


MR

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Re: Possible runner for real
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 02:37:51 AM »
ABHammer
They say"" only stops with a brake""[switch??]

I only saw your link at the 1'st post .Do you have another video link ,and patent info? My exfriend is
A Mega Scientist/inventor, has patents on the landing struts and many other mech devices for the Lunar Module/rover

Chet
Ps  and as I said he is an Armenian [fluent]

Greetings Chet

Here is more information to look at

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Karra_Green_Energy:Gravitational_Power_Generation


Well here is the latest video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxkziMDdjY

I hope this helps

 

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