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nightlife

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Water battery
« on: January 13, 2008, 08:00:59 AM »
 I checked to see if water had any electric current due to others getting a electric current from the earth and I found that water actual contains a electric current. The first test showed about .68 volts and it did not change when water was added or taken away. I then put two cups of water in a series and it doubled. I then put five cups of water in a series and I have over 4 volts. I then  found two dead 9 volt battery's and the water is charging them because they now have power where as before I attached them I checked them to make sure they were dead first. They tested at 3.5 volts but dropped fast to about .5 while testing them. I am going to let them charge over night and see what I get in the morning.

 I am using steel heat duct straps as negatives and insulated copper wire as positives.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 08:05:53 AM »
put a bit of vinegar or lemon juice in the water and it will work better, it also will work better in beer.

Hans von Lieven

nightlife

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 08:24:57 AM »
 hansvonlieven, I think you are missing my point here. It's not the water, it's the metal and it's the fact that the metal is attracting frequency?s and the water is storing them due to the minerals it contains. I tried it with well water and spring water and they all have the same results. I tried it with rain water and I got about half the voltage.

 The amount per container didn't change the voltage but I am thinking that the amount could add or subtract amperage depending on the amount used in each container.

 I just checked a battery and it is now at 4.38 and it is not dropping the volts as fast as it did before. The longer it charges, the more amperage and voltage it collects.

 I am going to add more cups tomorrow and get the series up to 12 volts and run some test with a 12 volt car battery because I can check the amperage load better with my automotive battery tester.

 I will try adding vinager and then try it with lemon juice after I find out more about this that I am trying now.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2008, 08:35:23 AM »
It is simple galvanic action, nothing more. The rainwater proves it, try distilled water and it will drop even further.

Read up on electrolytes. frequency has nothing to do with it.

Galvanic action produces DC!!!!!

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2008, 09:54:27 AM »
@nightlife

Have you tried Lord Kelvins experiment? Water really puts out some kicks!

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2008, 10:10:57 AM »
Have you tried Lord Kelvins experiment? Water really puts out some kicks!
@AhuraMazda
Which particular experiment are you referring to ? Is there a website that you know of which presents an outline of the particular experiment ?
If so, are you able to provide a link to it ? I'm very curious. I already know about galvanic activity with differing metals immersed in an electrolyte.
But I am curious if there are other experiments which point to something more than mere galvanism.

Cheers from the Toad who Hops  :)

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2008, 11:37:48 AM »
If so, are you able to provide a link to it ? I'm very curious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1eyLEo8_A&feature=related

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I finished my water cell trying 8 cells in series and parallel.  3.2 volts at 38mA.  Thats about enough for one LED.  :D I'm pretty much burnt out on trying water cells.  I figure the only way to get usable current out of a water cell would be to fill 5 gallon buckets full of two metals and have like 50 of them.  :-[  Of course I could charge a battery with patience.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2008, 04:23:51 PM »
AhuraMazda, I have not tried that and if it is the same one as Freezer provided a link to, it is interesting and worth checking out.

 
Freezer, I found that it didn't matter how much water was used in each container, the results were the same. When I got up I checked the battery and it was charged to 4.40 volts and that is the same as the voltage of the series of 5 cups of water used. I am going to get some more supply's today to set up a better presentation as well as to create more voltage. I want to get up to 12 volts and then I will use a dead 12 volt car battery to see if the series of cells will charge it. I will then load test the battery to see if any amps are achieved. I will do this in different time intervals such as 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 8 hours and 24 hours. I will record each finding and post the results.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2008, 05:04:40 PM »
I would look for copper/magnesium sheet, as that will yield more than copper/galvanized metals.  Remember you need amps, not necessarily high volts.  Its gonna take years to charge that 12v battery with a small amount of mA @12v.  Unfortunately water cells don't give high current, at least not how it been conventionally done.  Who knows though, there could be a lot better ways to configure it.  What I have learned so far is that surface area, and distance between electrodes make the difference.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 09:40:27 PM »
Freezer, I did find that flat galvanized metal works better then round galvanized and I now have 13.2 volts with 15 9oz cups with about 3oz of water in each one. I am now charging a 9volt battery that only had 2.4 volts with this 13.2 volt series. I will post the results in about 30 minutes. It is now 3:30pm Michigan time.

 I am almost positive that the metal attracts frequency's and the minerals in the water are absorbing the frequency's. I am also thinking the amps would be based on the amount of water used in each cup. I am also thinking that the size of metal used has to do with the rate of accumulation of the frequency's.

 I would like to know what minerals in the water are absorbing the frequency.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2008, 10:11:26 PM »
I just checked the 9volt battery and it now has 4.7 volts. That is almost double what it had before I started charging it with the water cell I created. The cell voltage was 4.7volts too but it immediately starting climbing back up when I disconnected the battery and I will check it again in a couple of minutes. The battery dropped to 3.87 after I disconnected it from the cell but it still has more then 30% more voltage then when I started.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2008, 10:49:55 PM »
I put a 12vdc 2400 watt load on the cell and the voltage dropped to 1.13volts rather quickly but stopped dropping fast once it hit the 1.13volt mark. That tells me the water cell contains amperage.

 I am guessing that if a multiply the cell by 12, I should get a usable 12volt power supply. That would mean I need 180 cups in a series to achieve that goal provided my thoughts are correct.
 First I am going to experiment with some higher amounts of water as well as some larger pieces of metal to see if I get a higher level of voltage with the same load I introduced before.

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2008, 11:34:00 PM »
OK
One of the interesting things that makes me know the earth cell isn't producing its effect from only galvanic reaction is that it works (less to be sure) with the same metal.  Cu to Cu gives me 0.05vdc.

What do you get if the 2 metals are the same?

BTW there is nothing wrong with galvanic reaction. It is an irritation to have to clean off the gunked up metal every day or so. You may get more juice from lemon juice or vinegar but it will gunk up faster.

It is wonderfully empowering to be able to make a battery in cups with water. If the grid goes down it will be good to know this.  There are so many ions and metals in tap water these days. Depending on where you live the rain has ionized stuff in it too. Acid rain is water with ions in it; otherwise it would be neutral.

Let us know,

jeanna

I don't even know how to test for frequency. maybe the ac?

jeanna

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Re: Water battery
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2008, 11:36:22 PM »
put a bit of vinegar or lemon juice in the water and it will work better, it also will work better in beer.

Hans von Lieven

But Hans, It would RUIN the beer!
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Re: Water battery
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2008, 11:59:50 PM »
Good call jeanna,

I for one don't want to be accused of alcohol abuse  LOL  ;D