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Offline not_a_mib

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2008, 03:24:03 AM »
If the Testatika uses a triggered radioactive decay mechanism, there might be a risk that the rate of energy release could be made very high, allowing the rapid manufacture of large, glass-lined craters.  Such a hazard might make one reluctant to release the secret.  (Trinitite carpeting is generally considered unfashionable, especially when installed in large cities.)

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2008, 09:33:18 PM »
enjoyable reading guys,  thanks.

I was very involved in trying to figure out this machine back in the early 1990s  I have long moved on.

However, I never gave much credence to the radioactive crystal theory, Stefan.  It's interesting that you were told such information.  Makes me wonder now.

To me the Testatika machine was simply a Wimhurst machine that was modifyed a bit to create free energy. 
There have been a number of patents along these lines and they don't involve crystals.  anyway, that's what I was thinking.


I'm currious if people up there have INTERNET access?

Do they have a police force?

Can you wonder on their property dressed like them and gain acess to any building?

Can you bribe somebody to give you access to the machine?

What's the initiation to get in?  Maybe one of you guys can go over there and live in silence for a while.  LOL  :D  :D

Anyway,  what I found very informative is the fact that they are using grid power.   Why wouldn't you use your machine if it works?  Possible reasons would be it's not powerfull enough, or it uses DC and for most industrial equipment (that you can buy for the factory like, motors) you need AC.   They might have a free energy source but what's the use.  I guess the only use they get out of it is to attract people's curiosity.     What a depressing comunity,  I already don't want to even go near that place.  No children, no hot looking babes,  no talking,  .... no, not for me.

Keep those stories coming guys, if you go there again.

Also, anybody know what the best web archive is for the photos of this machine?

EM

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2008, 11:45:34 PM »
However, I never gave much credence to the radioactive crystal theory, Stefan.  It's interesting that you were told such information.  Makes me wonder now.

I don't like the crystal theory because that would involve limited lifetime (albeit a long one) and a non-reusabe resource, assuming they get used up over their lifetime. However, lately on examining this unfinished version:
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/test.jpg
it looks like there might be a cylinder of crystals in the center of some of the unfinished cans. And those cans happen to correspond to the three rectangular blocks (crystals?) on this single disk small machine:
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/testabig.jpg
So one power source may just be radiation from electromagnetically stimulated crystals. Yuck!

I'm currious if people up there have INTERNET access?

Do they have a police force?

Can you wonder on their property dressed like them and gain acess to any building?

Can you bribe somebody to give you access to the machine?

What's the initiation to get in?  Maybe one of you guys can go over there and live in silence for a while.  LOL  :D  :D

On some frustrating days I half heartedly think about sneaking over :-).

Also, anybody know what the best web archive is for the photos of this machine?

It's probably not fair to Stefan to say this, but since the overunity.com forum doesn't really have the concept of folders for photos it's probably okay. The best collection is in the Photos section of:
 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/testatika/
I've also tried to make a good, complete summary of machines in photos on:
 http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/overview.htm
-Steve
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 03:36:52 AM »
Hi Steven,
well done with your Testatika pages.

I was told once, that these small diameter  but long and tall lyden Jars
in the back of the machine
visible in
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/TESTA9.JPG

contain the lightly radioactive mountain crystal materials.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2008, 03:47:36 AM »
In:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/TESTA9.JPG
you can also see, that these "Tasters-Abnehmer" ( capacitive charge puller stator collector square-plates)
directly connect to these tall small diameter Lyden jars.

So you can see, that the High voltage pulses are directly pulsed from these capacitive collector
plates to these mountain crystall containing lyden jars, where they will
excite the radioactive Beta-decay and charge up these Leyden jars much more
than alone from the capacitive coupling.

Interesting is then also the black resistors ?, which go to the "Diode-device"
ontop the machine.
Maybe this is somehow a sparkgap load or it is even another
mountain crystall wound with coil(s) and mesh capacitors,
so it might just excite this device too and deliver even more radioactive
Beta-Decay in the next bigger Leyden Jars.

At least it must be clear, that such small machines, with so low RPM
rotating discs could never produce 300 Watts to 3KWatts just on
magnetic and electric interaction forces...
It can only be radioactive Beta decay, that is coming
out as this high power from these machines.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2008, 04:13:36 AM »
Hi Stefan,
In:
http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/TESTA9.JPG
you can also see, that these "Tasters-Abnehmer" ( capacitive charge puller stator collector square-plates)
directly connect to these tall small diameter Lyden jars.

So you can see, that the High voltage pulses are directly pulsed from these capacitive collector
plates to these mountain crystall containing lyden jars, where they will
excite the radioactive Beta-decay and charge up these Leyden jars much more
than alone from the capacitive coupling.
Actually, http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/testa/misc/test.jpg further supports that as the tall small diameter jars there also seem to have crystal-looking material cylinders in their center.
At least it must be clear, that such small machines, with so low RPM
rotating discs could never produce 300 Watts to 3KWatts just on
magnetic and electric interaction forces...
It can only be radioactive Beta decay, that is coming
out as this high power from these machines.
Well... I can hope for ZPE too.
-Steve
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 12:00:31 AM »
Thanks for all the info guys.  The machine is certainly complex at face value,  however,  if approched with a theory in mind, it can seem quite familiar with a few modifications.

The principle experiment is certainly not based on exotic crystals from what I read.  It has to do with friciton of air and some sort of triboelectric phenomena.   I never saw those early models before, interesting.

I do want to illustrate something that will shed some light on how the energy can be increased.   The Whimhurst machine operates in a balanced way, I will draw up a picture later.   That concept of balanced means a lot.   Electrostatic INDUCTION playes a big part.  There was a time when I had very wild ideas about how to increase energy with electrostatics and moving plates around etc..  I even built a machine after a patent very simular.

EM

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 03:24:15 AM »
Hi EM,
even the smallest Testatika machines output about 270 Volts at around 1 amps.
You would not get this from so slow running discs with just the forces of electrostatics
or permanent magnet interactions...

I have read somewhere on the net about a guy,
that used americum pills from smoke detector devices and put them
into a selfmade capacitor and every time he energized the capacitor
with a high Voltage RF burst, the americum pills released huge
radioactive decay energy bursts and charged up the capacitor some more...

Also some other guy posted, that he used burned ash from radioactive coleman
light bulb gaze and could also energize it with magnetic RF bursts,
so he could trigger radioactive decay with a coil which was wound around this material
and was pulsed with RadioFrequency magnetfield bursts...

So all in all I think the Testatika uses the same principle in exciting the
radioactive decay in the mountain crystals inside the Leyden Jars.

This is also the most logical explanation for so much
power from so small devices using so slow RPM rotations.

The Wimhursts machines are only there to
produce the High Voltage electrostatic Voltages to excite the
crystals via corona discharge RF bursts.

It could have been done also by a solid state TV flyback transformer
circuit only.

The same is true with the Morray device.
It also worked on excited radioactive decay.

Morray just used a strong local radio transmitter and
Resonance in his first LC tank circuit to get the required
RF bursts to excite his swedish stone radioactive diode crystals.

He then used several stages in series as "passive amplifiers" just powered
by the beta decay electron generation of the swedish stone material
to buildup more power up into the KWatts range.
But all the power came from the radioactive beta decay of his swedish stone
diodes.

It is probably a very simple process, but you have to know the
right lightly radioactive materials which you can "excite" via high Voltage
RF bursts..

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 06:46:17 PM »
Stefan,
I have thought of the americium trick and have even collected and extracted 5 of the capacitors from within the smoke detectors that contain the pills. However, I'm too afraid to try it. The level or gamma and alpha rays from americium without the RF is pretty safe to work with, only a piece of paper is needed to block it, but once you start increasing its radioactivity with RF, how much shielding do you use?
Steven "scaredy cat" D.
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2008, 07:21:18 PM »
Stefan,
I have thought of the americium trick and have even collected and extracted 5 of the capacitors from within the smoke detectors that contain the pills. However, I'm too afraid to try it. The level or gamma and alpha rays from americium without the RF is pretty safe to work with, only a piece of paper is needed to block it, but once you start increasing its radioactivity with RF, how much shielding do you use?
Steven "scaredy cat" D.
http://rimstar.org

Exactly that is my concern...
I still have a smoke detector lying on my balcony, so it stays away from my bedroom.
We really have to get a good radioactive detector first,
if you want to try radioactive experiments...
Maybe someone can comment on a brand which is not too expensive
and can be bought on cheaply on Ebay and can detect all sorts
of radiation ?
Also Bruce from nuenergy.org said, that natural stones which are
lightly radioactive are not so dangerous than chemically treated materials to enhance
the radioactivity like americum pills in smoke detectors...
but I don?t know, if this is right.

You can also buy pretty hot radioactive mine stones on the net
which are normally only for stone collectors.

Also you could try to put these stones between
2 graphite rods sparkgap, so then you can excite them even
more via the high voltage arc discharge.
Be careful with this, as the smoke could also be radioactive...
don?t breath any of it !
Put a big coil and a 12 Volt battery and 2 graphite rods in series
and put a tiny piece of the radioactive stonedirectly into the arc at
the graphite rods sparkgap.

This is also a way to see on the scope at a shunt,
if there are any negative back current pulses into the battery
to test for other materials.
If you can get big backcurrent pulses during the arcing,
you have found a material that decays wellinto Beta decay
and thus works as an electron dontator that charges up your battery
with these huge back current pulses...

In some Newman machines this is also the case,if you have the
right graphite material that has lightly radioactive carbon isotopes
and which are excited to decay into Beta radiation during the sparks..


Regards, Stefan.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2008, 01:03:18 AM »
Do you guys know of any web links to people experimenting with this beta decay RF excited crystals?

EM

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2008, 02:14:08 AM »
thanks Stefan, interesting reading.

Ok, I finally found my photos with the Testatika machine.

Take a look at this simpler model.  At the time I had it all worked out.

I'm working on putting together a diagram.

EM

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2008, 02:17:55 AM »
Here's a typical Wimhurst machine  (off the net from google images)

Notice they all have the two big condensers.

EM

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2008, 02:22:36 AM »
thanks Stefan, interesting reading.

Ok, I finally found my photos with the Testatika machine.

Take a look at this simpler model.  At the time I had it all worked out.

I'm working on putting together a diagram.

EM

This was a nice fake a few years ago from Italy, when I remember correctly...
;) ;D
You really have to pulse the moutain crystalls with high voltage pulses
or corona discharge RF bursts to get the excited Beta Decay.

 

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