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notes from Linden, Switzerland
« on: January 09, 2008, 09:10:52 PM »
 Somewhere in the sleepy mountain village of Linden , Switzerland lays the possible solution to the world?s energy problems. Much visited and well documented on the internet, the Methernitha movement laid claim to having one of the world?s first working ?Free Energy? devices, that they call the Testatika machine. Click here for a short clip about the device: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cucq06deYXA
   Designed and built by the Methernitha community?s research department some 30 years ago, headed by Methernitha founder and inventor Paul Baumann, the Testatika is reported to deliver a staggering 240volts at 10 amps of electricity from a small tabletop device that is said to create this useable energy from nothing more than fresh air.
   The machine apparently works with 2 rotating disks that create electrostatic electricity by mimicking the relationship between the earth and the clouds. This electricity is then stored in 2 capacitors before being converted to usable electricity by some form of magnetism.
  Having demonstrated this device to over 30 of the world?s respected scientists in the late nineties, the Methernitha community has remained quiet and still refuses to share this device with the rest of the world to date, claiming that mankind was, and is still not ready for this kind of technology.
 
 
            We decided to take it upon ourselves to head to Switzerland and find out just what the deal was with all this. We couldn?t understand how a revolutionary device like this was being suppressed, and by its creators at that.
. Finding ourselves somewhere up a snowy mountain, lost as to where we might find these hermit-like, Christian scientists and struggling to locate the community?s exact whereabouts, we asked the first local we came across for directions. She promptly flagged down the first car that came along. The driver turned out to be an American member of the Methernitha community, and before we knew it, we were following behind her as a very weird set of circumstances began to unfold.
 The American lady led us to Methernitha?s headquarters quite eagerly, and for one reason or another she seemed to think that our arrival was planned and that someone there was expecting us. The ?headquarters? of this religious movement surprisingly turned out to be quite a plush and well organized industrial warehouse. In fact, it turns out that the self sufficient Methernitha movement makes most of its income from this fancy filing cabinet manufacturing facility.
Having been shown inside, the American lady introduced us to the receptionist before rushing off to a doctor?s appointment. We were introduced as two English people that someone was expecting to see today, which seemed strange to us as we had arrived completely unannounced and had made no prior arrangements; there was definitely a strange feeling about the events surrounding that day. One minute we were out on the street looking for directions to this mysterious religious community with claims to a free energy machine, and the next we were in the board room of a filing cabinet manufacturer being served coffee and biscuits.
 The receptionist who greeted us was a young German lady named Beah. She informed us that ?Trigonorm? was the business ?front? to the Methernitha movement. Beah had this weird way of laughing like a little child after most things she said. It seemed odd and we wondered just what she might be hiding. She asked us what we were there for and how she could help us. We cautiously mentioned that we came to learn about the Testatika energy device. We were not quite sure how to mention it to her, in fear of seeming a little bit too straight to the point. But she came right out and told us that it was a very important part of the community, that the device was not just for electricity, but that it also had certain spiritual uses. She also informed us, by a matter of sheer co-incidence that Paul Baumann, the machine?s creator, turned 90 the very day we showed up to visit, and the following day they would be holding a celebration for him.
            It seemed almost that fate and destiny may have brought us here on Paul Baumann?s 90th Birthday for a reason; we sensed we were about to gate crash the celebration party and get to speak to the inventor himself, but in the end it wasn?t to be. We tried our damndest to get invited to the birthday party, but it was all in vain. The group certainly has what one might call a ?cult? like feeling and a strong sense of secretiveness surrounding it. Despite dropping several well timed hints it became apparent that we weren?t going to get an invite to the party. As Beah?s father put it, ?People will be here for many, many years and will never get to see the Testatika once.?
            The question arose soon after as to whether or not Paul Beumann was actually alive, because we had read one internet report that claimed that the inventor had died some years ago. Having witnessed the eerie closeness of this community, all be it very briefly, the overwhelming feeling that surrounded this place did have us wondering, was Paul Baumann really alive? Or were the members of the Methernitha movement going to perform some strange religious ceremony around some ?Remnant remains? of him? If so why weren?t we welcome?  No, in all seriousness, we are quite sure Paul Baumann is most certainly alive and well. We heard it on good account from Victor Bosshard, the Methernitha member of whom we had a meeting with the next week, and we have no reason to believe otherwise. But I would not be at all surprised to find out that there is some strange twist to this.
  Anyway, we didn?t get an invite to the party. I don?t know? Maybe the Testatika device was going to be there or something. Soon after this we were told we must go away, that business was too busy for any more discussion, and that we should call next week if we wished for an appointment to speak further. We called a few times, and soon we got through to the office of Mr. Viktor Bosshard, the unofficial public relations man of Methernitha who could speak to us with a good English vocabulary. He told us in a briefly worded email that he only had time for us 6 days later. So we hung around in the mountains close to the Methernitha community for a week, eating nothing but a variety of tinned beans and Swiss chocolate. Finally we were able to speak to someone of official Methernitha rank and hopefully ask them some very serious questions about a device in their possession which potentially, could have a colossal effect on the future of mankind and the entire world as we know it.
 
 
We began the day meeting Viktor Bosshard at Methernitha ?HQ? Trigonorm. Viktor suggested that this business place wasn?t so nice and so he led us to another Methernitha building that was further down the road. This building looked like a typical big Swiss house and housed the Methernitha laundry facility (I say ?the? but maybe there is more than one laundry. There are over 180 members living in the Methernitha community). We sat down around a table which had an empty round bowl on it and were offered some well water. We chatted briefly about such things as the weather and where we came from before Viktor began talking to us about the religious background and ideals of Methernitha. This went on for the next hour or so and the footage can be seen by clicking here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=eIrXw_Ustc8

 The quality isn?t the best but its well worth a listen so you can see for yourself what was said. The footage is raw and was filmed undercover (hence the horrible angle) but the footage is pretty much as we actually heard it. In the middle of our meeting we ran out of tape and memory sticks so unfortunately we missed the bit where Bosshard talks direcly about the Testatika.

 
After the meeting, we were asked if we would like to eat lunch and Viktor Bosshard quickly telephoned through to the main kitchen, after which we set off by car to yet another big Swiss house owned by Mathernitha (Vicktor Bosshard did tell us that the Methernitha movement own millions of Swiss francs in real estate and we certainly believed him from the standard of the properties that we saw). This building housed one of the communal kitchens. We sat at the end of one of many long tables and ate a meal of soup, pasta, salad, braised artichoke, and tinned creamed mushrooms. Beah was sat at a table on the other side of the room and said hello and laughed a lot. The American lady who directed us here also passed by briefly. There was something definitely strange about this environment though, as nice as it seemed, everybody sat in near silence. They all wore the same, presumably home made, bright colored, wooly sweaters with leather pads on the elbows and everybody put there dishes away in a clinical orderly fashion to be washed after there meal. There weren?t any young people in the room at all though, which concerned us. In a community at lunchtime one would expect to see children, maybe they were somewhere else? Who knows? But we got the impression there weren?t too many children to be found in this community. Apart from ourselves and Beah, it would be safe to say there wasn?t anybody less than the age of forty five in the room.
 
 Being a ?self sufficient? community we presumed that all the food eaten would have been grown locally, by the community. However, Mr. Bosshard didn?t hesitate to tell us that they buy most of there food from the same companies that supply hotel chains, that one of the benefits of being a community is that they can buy food in bulk, at much cheaper rates than an individual could. This is all very well, but to be honest we were more than a little bit surprised by this. For an organization that claims to be so closely in touch with nature, so much so that nature gave them a free energy device, it didn?t seem right that they would buy food that is most probably genetically modified, almost certainly non-organic and without a doubt corporately distributed and cultivated. This really did concern us, when you consider the fact that this organization refuses to share a potentially world saving device with mankind because ?They? aren?t ready for it,? and yet on so many levels, the food they eat being one of them, they are hypocritical to there own ideas and beliefs. It was beginning to look like the same old story, Money and Religion breed corruption. Money definitely plays a big part in this community?s religion.
    . After lunch, Viktor had arranged to have us watch a video about the Testatika, the same one that was made for a Swiss science convention, when Methernitha was asked to publically demonstrate the Testatika. We were led to the community?s day school, which housed no children. Outside there were some fairly major construction works going on.
            We were sat down in front of the 40 inch plasma T.V in the lounge and we watched the video. I got that same pain in my neck as I?d gotten in the kitchen. How was it right that on the one hand these folks possess a media lounge with a 40 inch plasma screen on the wall yet on the other, the world isn?t ready to accept free energy yet, because of their desire for money and material wealth? I remember Viktor telling us that they couldn?t allow the Testatika device to go to mankind because if they did, man would use it for materialistic, money-driven reasons, and that Methernitha would be just as guilty and morally accountable for any wrong doings by giving this to ?them?. It seems very strange that a community based around selling filing cabinets to corporate businesses (and God only knows what is on the paper stored in their cabinets) could take such a moral high ground. Taking Methernitha?s views on keeping the Testatika private into account, is this community not just as responsible as their customers for the ill deeds caused by what is stored in the filing cabinets they sell? Also I couldn?t help but wonder just how much blood was sat up there in that 40 inch T.V. How many Ugandan orphans sweated in the crystal mines for that to be there? Is Methernitha not morally accountable for that as well? It just seemed really strange to us that the main reasons given for not allowing the Testatika?s release was that they did not trust the world?s practices and orientation toward money, and that they did not want to be responsible for betraying their ?friend Nature,? by giving it to this described world. It was blatantly obvious that the Methernitha community?s own lifestyle is not much different. There is a lot of good things going on within Methernitha, but at the same time there is an awful lot of moral compromising (or to put it bolder, ignorance) and out right hypocrisy.
I guess the biggest matter for us is the fact that, despite originally deciding a ?free energy? device was necessary for this community?s energy needs, despite nature ?giving up her secrets,? despite building and demonstrating this device on several occasions, and despite withholding this technology from the rest of the world for over 20 years on moral issues, the simple fact that the community doesn?t even use the device poses some very baffling questions! All their electricity needs are met by a couple of wind generators and they buy whatever else they need from the grid, just like everybody else! The big question of this machine?s capability still remains satisfactorily unanswered.
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Our proposal is, whether the Testatika exists or not, that the information we have uncovered be used to barrage the Methernitha community with more direct questioning. Their whole philosophy is there, plain to see on the footage we got, and there are huge gaping cracks in their reasoning for denial. This needs pointing out to them. We would like to follow up this story with more questions and to open up a debate, argument if you like, with the people of Methernitha. As many people as possible should visit them and email them but with genuinely well thought out ideas and arguments. If you would like to email us with questions to bring to Mr.Viktor Bosshard and the rest of the community, email us at everyday.neverforget@doyouknowyourdead.com. 
 
You can contact Methernitha at methernitha@bluewin.ch

 

Please leave comments as this story is far from over!

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notes from Linden, Switzerland
« on: January 09, 2008, 09:10:52 PM »

Offline spooner

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 09:33:01 PM »
For some reason I'm not surprised. 

I've been watching the hard work many intelligent folks are putting into replicating the Testatika and have almost come to the conclusion that no one can replicate an overunity device that doesn't actually work as advertised.

I had planned to drive through Methernitha next time in Switzerland to see if their homes were wired to the grid, many thanks for saving me the time.

I think that we can probably throw the Testatika into the dustbin of internet free energy hoaxes.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 10:08:36 PM »
doyouknowyour dead .... ???
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 10:32:04 PM »
1)when is this 40 inch plasma screen meeting supposed to have taken place if the video is from 1990?
2)if u lot are supposed to be from the u.k., why is your youtube useraccount country u.s.a.?
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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2008, 12:31:26 PM »
My My we really are investigators in here ;D

Mysterios company? no just two kids out there trying to make a difference and search out the truth, did you read anything about us on our site? We are far from a company

The spy cameras we used were purchased from ebay from china and we apologize for the wrong date. you will have to take our word for it that it was filmed on december 7, 2007.If we knew how to change the date once it was filmed we would have. As far as the american account, yes, one of us is american and the other from the U.K. we appreciate the critical investigation but do understand we are just trying to do our bit in the world.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2008, 11:14:18 PM »
Methernitha:  a secretive organization with front companies, large industrial facilities and offices all over Switzerland and a mysterious, rarely-seen cult leader.  This sounds almost like one of the evil organizations in a James Bond movie.

All that is required to complete the picture is a movie scene something like this.

Paul Baumann is seated on an ornate throne near a control panel in the secret underground base.  A white Persian cat rests in his lap, and a shiny monocle gleams in his right eye.  He is preparing to broadcast malevolent Methernithan mind-control messages.

The camera pans, revealing a warehouse-sized room filled hundreds devices that resemble giant pimped-out Wimshurst machines, light glinting off the meshwork sectors of their slowly-turning disks.  Heavy cables lead from each machine to a network of gleaming copper bus-bars overhead,
which all run towards a distant wall bearing a "transmitter room" sign.

(For posting this, I will probably find myself on the pointy ends of a squad of Swiss pikemen.)

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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 04:40:43 PM »
@doyouknow. Thanks for the report on Methernitha. I am reminded of Lafayette Ron Hubbard. He used to be a science fiction writer. A character in one of his stories says" If you want to be really rich, start a Religion" or words to that effect. Taking the characters word as gospel, he went on to found scientology[ I wont distinguish it with a capital s]. I think that the Testatika is just a gimmick to help enslave peoples minds. I once built a small machine with 2 rollers that appeared to change blank sheets of paper into banknotes. Had I been immoral, I could have used it to enslave minds.
           This attitude, Mankind does not deserve it, but of course we do because we are superbeings,blows my mind. When it comes to Free energy, the technical problems are as nothing compared to the Psychological ones. There can be no Golden Age for Mankind whilst we still embrace theTyranny and superstition of religeon. Martyrdom anyone?

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2008, 12:04:19 AM »
mmm good skeptisim is ok, but fairy tells make good books. just a lot of crap to keep people dummied down. Ok I realy dont'e care if it works or not just look at the great information I'm getting just building it and figure out how it works , if at all. mmm wonder what you other folks are building or accomplishing ?  You can hold onto the dragons tail or... try not to get toasted on the other end when you piss him off , har har har  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2008, 09:32:46 PM »
@ Motorcoach1. It was not my intention to discourage you in your research, which, like all research brings its own rewards. Who knows, you may discover some thi g new. I hope so.

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2008, 05:07:33 AM »
Hi,
when I was there in 1989
they showed me their big battery station,
where they charge up big lead acid batteries
from their wind generators and also
it was said, that the 3 KW Testatika machine
was used to charge up their battery station
but I did not see the Testatika machine there and it also
was only shown me the video of the Testatika
machines.

But I did know for instance Stefan Marinov,
with whom I was in telephone contact and he
was shown all the Testatika machines
and he verified them that they were working.

Yes,but it is too bad, that mainly Mr. Bosshard,
with whom I also had long conversations,
and mainly Paul Baumann still keep it all
a secret.
This does not make sense if you look at their
spiritual goals, well it seems its just their
egoism to keep it under wraps and
renders their spiritual goal to not much  trust
in my opinion.

How can they sit on such a unit,
if they want to get a free spiritual mind and want to help mankind ?
Its just their egocentric attitude that keeps
it under wraps and they want to be in control,
so no free minds...

They told me ,
each member is quiet during taking their meal
to "just think about God and thank him"

But I think this is rather a moral supression  not to talk
to other members about the community and their goals.
So in my opinion it is more a mind control than a real community.

Maybe I am wrong, but with this mind control
this is just another cult community.
Okay, if one wants to find itsself and is out to
find nature and oneself and God, maybe this is the right place to do it
in this small mountain village Linden, where it seems they just live
their life without any outside influence,
but then you are also invited to share all your posessions with the community
and live there in a non-materialistic condition and all your money belongs then to the community.
Also you have to work there in their facility and the work you have to do
is changing weekly or monthly,
so you get to learn all work which is to be done over there,
from making these hospital cabinets to office or kitchen work..
but if you prefer one job you can also do this longer if you wish.
Nobody is forced to stay there I was told...
I also saw younger people living there and also kids, whos parents
lived there.

As their main goal is
"one for all, all for one",
everybody seems to care for each other
and so also the work is being shared by each other..
which is not a bad thing,
but all things related to  the Testatika machines
is still egocentric mind control in my opinion
and not compatible with their spiritual goals...

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: I stayed for 3 days at Linden at Methernitha in 1989
as a guest
and was shown their daily life and discussing their spiritual goals.





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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2008, 05:20:52 AM »
P.S: The really strangest feeling you get,
if you experience about 50 persons sitting in a kitchen room taking
their meal silently and not speakig to each other.

It is hard to lean this and not ask somebody something during this time
or speak to somebody...

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2008, 11:45:25 AM »
I have nothing to say for or against Methernitha.
I asked them if I could go to know them and see the machine and they refused.
No problem for me, their choice.
Baumann gave us one important message anyway: there can be 'free energy', and I would like to thank him for this if it's true.
In the meanwhile maybe I reversed the principle.

Here, english:
http://utenti.lycos.it/fischerconsulting/testatpu.html

Here, an italian explanation by words:
http://energierinnovabili.forumcommunity.net/?t=2829236&st=30

Good luck,

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2008, 01:41:35 PM »
thanks for the discussion, particularly to hartiberlin. we still plan to get back in touch with Mr. Bosshard, but if he refused showing the Testatika in 89 and also now in 08, it seems like we will only be able to speculate from the outside for ever. how can we lobby these people? we agree that it seems inhumane or "unchristian" and also egocentric to withhold free energy. to that end, we should be telling them this and lobbying fullstop until something gives. so
a) what is the consensus, does it work or is it a mind control myth?
b) if it is agreed that it does exist, how can we convince methernitha to share it, short of sending a guerilla army???   :) ???

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Re: notes from Linden, Switzerland
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2008, 02:18:55 PM »
I think as long as Mr.Bosshard and Mr. Baumann rule the Methernitha community, nothing will change.
There are still other nice people who live there and are more open, but I guess they either dont know the full secret or are sworded not to speak about it by Bosshard?s and Baumann?s command.

I think one can only learn by reverse engineer a self built Wimhurst machine and use the High voltage high frequency discharges to pulse light radioactive mountain crystals to excite it and release more beta radiation which is then captured in the Leyden jars.
This is the most logical explanation how the Testatika works.
All other methods would not deliver this huge amount of power relative to its size
and Bosshard always told me, that the secret lies in the used minerals.

« Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 02:47:28 PM by hartiberlin »

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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2008, 03:52:48 PM »
Before one can apply conservation of energy laws to any thing, one must define the system.  Purely mechanical systems are easy to define because everything is visible.  We can not, however, so easily define an 'electric, magnetic, radiant--plasma' type of system because much of what happens is unseen.  Unlike purely mechanical systems, the process of having a look will impart some changes upon the system itself.

Any machine that appears to be violating the CoE laws, is only interacting with the surroundings in a way that we do not yet fully understand.  Maybe it was properly grounding, instead of balancing, all of our closed electrical circuits in the past that caused them to behave like mechanical system analogues with regard to energy usage.  Our defined system for 'free energy' devices is incomplete; our cosmology may be flawed for such high energy open loop systems.  Tapping energy from the vacuum sounds plausible from a quantum mechanical point of view, anyway, (show me a system at rest.)

Given all that, a claim of an actual working free vacuum energy device today is, by our everyday experience, a fantastic claim.  Fantastic claims require fantastic proof.  I will be so happy and grateful when we finally receive both of these things in a simple, easily replicate-able device.

Once free energy is truly free then the free-energy despots will lose their iron-grip of control in their little worlds and we can finally have a decent dinner conversation.

Cheers!  ;)

 

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