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Author Topic: Gravity Motors = Free Energy  (Read 55820 times)

hartiberlin

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2006, 02:44:47 PM »
Hi Tink,
it would be great, if you could again replicate your old design.
Many thanks for providing the links to the new Indian gravity wheel.
I have downloaded the video and placed it under a new thread.

Anyway, if you could at least show the pipe turn by 180 degrees and
then switch manually the lock and show it keep on rotating,
then we will be convinced, that your principle works.
Maybe for easier building you could also use a flaoting solarcell
ontop of the water to generate some small power for a
magnetic double switch relay, which controls the locking and releasing...
Okay, then it would be not purely gravitational but anyway, it might be
eaiser to control this way the lock.

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2006, 03:10:02 AM »
Maybe a magnetic double switch relay is the best option just like you say HartiBerlin, because it is hard to tell how and when the weight will fall otherwise.
Still it would be nice if it was all pure mecanical, but maybe later.

To Jake:
Quote from other thread
The best I can tell, nobody has ever created a device that "self runs" and actually demonstrated it in a credible, open way.

There is a pattern of making claims and never substantiating the claims.  There is sort of a standard list of what I will call "excuses" for why the devices can't be shown.

There is even a pattern in how the "inventors" communicate.  Something I find very strange is the misspelling of words, which appears to be done on purpose, by people who actually know better.  It is as though you have to look uneducated to be taken seriously in this arena.  There are other communication patterns, but purposely misspelling words is the strangest thing.
/end quote.

I don't know if you where talking about me or not, but I do understand what you mean.
About my claim, I am starting to rebuild it but like you said it hasn't selfrun yet or maybe it never will and I make a fool of myself to go so public.
About the misspellings, I am Dutchman and I can asure you my Dutch is much better but I thought that as long as people understand me it would be okay.

Anyway, I am not angry at you. ;D

If there are people who want to build this too there is a simple way to get the weight, look at the drawing.
You can use all sorts of things like a glass or bottle of water or what have you.
Just make sure the float goes open enough as you want it to open, lets say 1 or 2 centimeters?

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2006, 04:12:25 AM »
Hey Tink,the Dutch-team received "Free Energy"
from Figo/Maniche et Co. !
Nice game,so fair !

S
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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2006, 05:03:48 PM »
Are you talking about soccer LancaIV?
The last match had a little bit too much yellow and red to my taste, maybe Holland will do better in 4 years time?:)

Anyway there is something I forgot to tell about the thin rubber handgloves and the float.
The rubber should NOT be stretched because you will need much more weight to get the float open and the rubber might tear!
So if you want to open the float just 2 centimeters, give it 2.1 or 2.2 centimeter unstretched rubber material and of course add twice 1.5 centimeter to that for the connection to the end caps (which I will glue with locktite superglue).
I thought this was obvious but just in case.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2006, 05:27:48 PM by Tink »

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2006, 09:40:39 PM »
Hi Tink,
is the
How_to_get_the_weight.jpg
only to show, how to get the right ampunt of lead weight ?
Otherwise If you would turn this by 180 degrees the water would
come into the pipe...

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #50 on: June 27, 2006, 10:41:09 PM »
 ;D

Yep it is just one of the steps in building the toy from scratch.
There are so many shapes of floats possible and it is a little hard to calculate the weight needed for this thing, that I came up with this simple way of doing it.
Once the weight is know, you can put the weight on the scales and it tells you how many grams of lead are needed.
When you know that, it is simple to calculate what the volume of lead you have and you can start drawing the shape you like most.
A rectangular shape is best and keep in mind that the lead block should allways have a big part on the other side of the axis so that a great part of the weight cancels the (gravity) drag effect.
So when the shape of the weight is drawn on paper and you think it is good, then it is time to look for pieces of triplex or multiplex wood for the moldingbox.
I remember putting some candlewax in it and made the whole inside of the box fatty by melting the candlewax with a hairdryer.
Then I measured the lead I would need and put it in an old soupspoon and let it melt on a stove.
It is a smelly job poring the molten lead into the mold because the candlewax starts blowing smoke but the leadblock when cooled down will have smooth sides then,...just make sure you have all windows open or do it outside.
When you have the leadblock ready then it is time to start looking for a nice round or other shaped plastic box (pvc is my favorit because it goes well with superglue) where you have enough room for the shifting leadblock.
And then comes the hard part which I have not done yet, the lock and release device!
When the mechanism works on paper then it is a question of glueing the bits and pieces to gether and make the second float just like the first one.
Then comes the bearing bit and luckily I found and old axis with a connectionplate from an old experiment so that should not be that hard.
And then when all is done and it doesn't work as I thought it would,....I made a fool out of myself.
So I hope for the best.

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2006, 03:08:22 PM »
Who understood the operation of the machine??

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #54 on: February 26, 2007, 12:41:39 AM »

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2007, 04:12:22 PM »
Free Energy is here: http://energie.noosblog.fr

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2008, 10:36:47 PM »
Hello!
 Who with understood how that functions?? -->> http://energie.noosblog.fr/perpetuum_mobile/engine_01_11357.html

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2008, 04:49:45 AM »
'Tink' posted this almost 2 years ago! - seeing as he never posted a follow-up in this thread, one would have to assume that it either didn't work, or he decided not to bother re-building it.  Pity...

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2008, 04:01:09 PM »
I found this old Free Energy Indian Wheel on the Peswiki site.  It said that grooves were cut out into the wood for small weights (small round stones?) to slide back & forth as the Wheel revolved.

I am not an expert, but couldn't a person attach lengths of Plastic Pipe, half filled with Water, to a Wood Wheel?  These lengths of Plastic Pipe would be attached right where the photo shows the old grooves.

Of course, the ends of each pipe would be sealed with plastic caps to keep the water in.

Plus, it seems like the OUTPUT could be DOUBLED by placing a Second Set of Pipes on the Back Side of the Wood in Identical Positions.

Comments welcome.



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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #59 on: November 10, 2008, 07:50:51 PM »
You meen something like this:

(http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/icw-a.gif)

The buble is hold in the outside arms position mecanicaly until the load (black balls) arrive to them and then released to move to the center...

If the bubbles are big enough to move the ball upwards, the bubbles must also be able to displace the same or more weight in water. As the bubble rises, the bottom of this tube will be filled with that weight of water and get heavier, so it will prevent rotation.

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