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Offline _GonZo_

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2006, 02:10:47 AM »
Michel, did you built it?

If so let me know if it worked or if it stoped in a position like the picture attached.

And belive me it is no a question of friction, if you look close to the drawing and the position of the weights (balls) in relation with the wheel you will see it clear.

You can complicate the machine as much as you want, that will not make it work...

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2006, 02:46:51 PM »
You can complicate the machine as much as you want, that will not make it work...
If it too is complicates for you, it is not my fault.

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2006, 03:23:50 PM »
I think this sort of machine (saga.jpg) can work but the weights need to be in the middle of the machine near the axis.
Beware of the time you have to put in it!
I have been making water motors for some 2 years in a row and the ones that could work had 2 weights to push or pull 4 pistonlike floats on the outside.
The timing is important for the weights to fall.
I used condoms for the rubber seals around the pistons because it is so thin.
The problem I had was leakage all the time and in the end I gave up.
Still I feel it can be done.

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2006, 12:28:20 AM »
@Tink,
can you post a few pics of your design ?
Without leakage did some designs work ?
Thanks.

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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2006, 01:41:11 AM »
Hello Stefan,
It is more then 10 years ago now and after my divorce they have been thrown away.
I will make a drawing of one that could have worked ( but it hadn't a lock and release device yet).
There was one design which I think allmost worked because it was big enough (some 50 cm wide) and i will make a drawing of that one.
The other ones were failures and a big waste of time.
But you know how it goes,....youv'e got something in your head and it wont let go ;D
Have some patience.

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Offline _GonZo_

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2006, 09:19:44 PM »
You can complicate the machine as much as you want, that will not make it work...
If it too is complicates for you, it is not my fault.

What I did is just simplify the machine and encrease where the problem is, in order to help in understanding  it better.

You can center better the weights, but the weights will always have to be able to flip a little in order to increase/decrease the volumes, and that little is enogh to put the machine in equilibrium and snd stop it due friction.

Just found this nice site, and here is a manny of this nice desings and why they do not work.
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/buoyant.htm

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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2006, 10:20:40 PM »
That is not what I made.
Like I said the weight should be in the middle as much as possible (near the axis), and in my case I used a bicycle wheelspoke to push a sort of cilinder out or in so an air bubble inside the lower arm (cilinder) will be pushed to the lowest "cilinder".
It is very simple if you see it and the lower "cilinder" went past the highest point (some 10 to 15 degrees) and wanted to go down again to be stopped in the end because the airbubble worked as a brake now.
That was a test with the weight blocked by a piece of wood to see what would happen and from that moment I knew I found it.
Leakage was a big problem so I made an other design which I thought would work much better but it did not work at all (shame that is).
The design that could have worked needed a mechanism to hold the weight down and only release the weight at top dead center so cycle starts again.
I promissed to make a drawing and I will but I have a family life too so have some patience.
If people want to make what i made and improve on it with a good functioning hold and release mechanism great!
Just be warned that it will take you far more time then you think.
The power output from this will not be high I think (just a few Watts at the most), but it is cool to see it keep on running till something wears out.
My interrest is mostly in the Steven Mark coil now because i think that has most merit (no moving parts, and lots of power).

(Edit)Oops, sorry Gonzo, I didn't read your post well enough I think.
What I said above was for the website you gave.

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Offline _GonZo_

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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2006, 10:56:17 PM »
You meen something like this:

(http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/icw-a.gif)

The buble is hold in the outside arms position mecanicaly until the load (black balls) arrive to them and then released to move to the center...

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2006, 11:04:39 PM »
nice work _GonZo_


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Offline _GonZo_

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2006, 12:23:18 AM »
I forgot to say that the tubes are filled with a fluid like water.

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2006, 06:15:56 AM »
Well here it is at last.
I found an old scanner so I was now able to scan it.
I hope you can all read it because I am not to awake at the moment so my handwriting is bad.
It is sort of a gravitywheel (one element of it) with water as medium.
Like I said, I am not doing anything with this anymore.

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2006, 02:08:09 PM »
Gonzo , nice animation, but how are the weights lifted inside the inner tube ?
What are these elevator things in the inner tube ?

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2006, 04:08:09 PM »
You meen something like this:

(http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/icw-a.gif)

The buble is hold in the outside arms position mecanicaly until the load (black balls) arrive to them and then released to move to the center...


Gonzo,

Interesting work.  Can you go into some detail about how the bubble is held while the ball is not in the bubble and then released to float upward when the ball returns to the bubble?

Thanks!

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Offline _GonZo_

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2006, 02:10:12 PM »
The buble shutle can be handled in center position with any mechanical system, it does not really matter...

I know that in the motion it looks like it can work but it does not...

Any one can see where is the lie about this motion?

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Re: Gravity Motors = Free Energy
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2006, 04:56:05 PM »
a great concept really, but you are right, it is doomed to failure from the beginning :)
The vertical arms will not swing all the way back to vertical again - the horizontal ends would trap it somewhere in the 60-70 degree range, not 90 where the animation "stops"...

 

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