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scorpio

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 12:47:22 AM »
@wattsup

What is the "bailing" wire?
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Anybody can this questions?

If the SM device worked ten years ago, why I can not buy this in the shop now?
Where is Steven Mark?
 :-[

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2008, 02:53:28 AM »
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If the SM device worked ten years ago, why I can not buy this in the shop now?

The company that holds the patents is UEC, some company in the Philippines or Australia.  And they're not doing anything with the information, just siting on it.

Why?   Here's some possibilities:

1)  Technology does not work.

2)  They have been bought out to keep quiet.

3)  They're ignorant and don't know how to implement the information they have.

4)  This is all a fairy tale, go back to sleep  :)


Bailing wire is made of iron, so it's thin iron wire, with or without insulation on it.

EM


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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 05:29:40 AM »
Hey EMDevices,

I had no idea that this company was outside of the US, so now I started searching for patents outside of the US.

I think they are (or were) in Australia.  See attached image, and note how I cannot access their patents (proprietary and limited).

Hmmm....

Eldarion

(Yes, that says UEC, I just cut it off with the green circle.  Ooops.)

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 07:21:27 AM »
some of the peeps need to read the starter threads .. most of what is being talked about here is repeat.  :P ;D :D must be the amnesia from new years partying.

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 06:50:16 PM »
very very interesting Eldarion, so it's UEC Technologies.    That's awesome.  Maybe we can find just one unpropriatery patent  LOL :D

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2008, 07:26:02 PM »
That listing for UEC is a company in South Africa and that is there actual name. 

They have a couple of patents on decoder housings (design patents).

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2008, 11:25:54 PM »
a pleasure to read your stull as usuall EM, thanks for trying to make it simple and basic for all of us.

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2008, 11:32:07 PM »
thank b0rg13,  I'm glad you like it.


I just wish somebody that has the original videos will make a better copy and let us have it.  What an awesome thing that would be.  We could gain so many more clues about this device if we could see it better.  I want 800x600 resolution  if possible  :)

EM

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2008, 01:49:03 AM »
United Epitaxy Company.. im guessing this is the most logical choice

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2008, 02:28:25 AM »
Why are we letting this awesome thread sink to the bottom   LOL  :D


It contains all the clues we ever need, straight from the guy who did it.

You know he did mention that there is a little bit of OU when current is caused to flow in a wire (from his letters to Lindsay)  and he said that is all he had when he set out to design his device.  It might not be much but its OU he said.


You know that's very true, if we find a small source of energy we can then start to work at it and we have a clear road map on what to do.    From what he says in this first video, it sounds like he is tapping energy out of the radio spectrum, no matter the frequency, even if really low.  So it's received energy it sounds like.  If this is the case it then requires extremely high Q filters to build up enough voltage so that it can be usable.

EM

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2008, 03:12:25 PM »
Can somebody locate this paper in pdf format?

It's very interesting and applicable to the TPU since bailing (iron) wire is mentioned in the video, and small fluctuations of magnetic field can have a drastic effect, as the paper mentions.

EM


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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2008, 05:28:24 PM »
Hi EM,

Here is a link to a paper (which is worth reading in itself) which mentions as a reference #2 the original paper from which you have the first page. It must have been published in the Proceedings of the Royal Society vol. 137, year 1937, page 651.  If so, this publication could be found in science/university libraries even via inter-library services from abroad.

According to this paper http://www.sensorsportal.com/HTML/DIGEST/march_06/P_61.pdf
the effect is a Giant Magneto-impedance effect and possibly this effect must have been observed back in 1936-37.

Of course the original paper would be a good reading for sure.

EDIT:further good links on GMI: http://link.aip.org/link/?JAPIAU/90/6280/1  and http://link.aip.org/link/?APPLAB/77/2737/1

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2008, 07:48:49 PM »
thanks for the links gyulasun.

I've been thinking along the lines of NEGATIVE RESISTANCE OSCILLATORS lately.

Can somebody get excited please !   LOL  :D

I've also been reading up in my Electronics book about oscillators, negative feedback and the stability criterion  (phase margin, gain margin, Nyquist plots, etc..) 

So what am I doing?  

I'm trying to purposely create and engineer an unstable system! 

At this point I don't care where the power comes from.  I'm engineering the unstable system to self oscillate, and if I can find components that deal with magnetism, so much better.  I'm aiming for no ELECTRONICS.  Just coils, magnets and capacitors.

Now I'm thinking the iron wire and it's resistance succeptability can play right into our hands as a negative oscillator.  Why?   Well because it's so sensitive to an external field. 

Imagine the flowing current passing through the iron wire also passing through the external helix coil surrounding it.    It will affect it's own resistance.   As it increases, the resistance goes up (since the magnetic field increases) but its driven by voltage so in essence we might have a negative slope to the resistance profile.   If that doesn't work there's other ways to explore, double balanced coils etc..

just thoughts that I'm currently in love with.

EM
« Last Edit: January 22, 2008, 08:20:23 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2008, 08:07:10 PM »
This is what I'm thinking.

Could there be a portion of the V-I curve where this exibits a negative slope, hence a negative resisitance that can be used to create an oscillator?

EM

P.S.  Keep in mind that in the first TPU, the iron wire is in a loop form.  Also, we can even reverse the iron wire and the copper wire since the fields are such that they work the same.  (all we need according to the article above is to have an AXIAL magnetic field, which will affect the resitance drasticaly)

Also, recently scientists discovered there is NEGATIVE RESISTANCE at the boundry between magnetic domains (at the microscopic level) This is encouraging to say the least.  The reference to the "bailing wire" in the video is starting to look more and more like a vital clue.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2008, 08:27:16 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: The First TPU
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2008, 09:55:45 PM »
Hi EM,
great ideas.
This reminds me of an experiment I still want to do:

Build a coil of insolated iron wire.
As it is iron a permanent magnet will be attracted to the
inside of the iron coil.
Now see, how much inverse current you have to drive into the iron coil
to cancel out the magnetic field attraction, so that the magnet can move through the
coil without being attracted by the coil?s iron.

You could probably also do this by wrapping copper wire around
the iron wire.
Then use the induction voltage from the iron wire to store it in a capacitor
until the magnet has moved into the coil and then use copper wire
around the iron wire to pulse this from the cap to propell the magnet
out of the coil again.
Makes me wonder if you need less energy to propell the magnet out of this special
coil as is produced, when the magnet goes into the coil...

Also from my previous experiments I have seen,
that iron coils don?t produce any Back EMF pulses
and the electrical current heat of the coil is attracted to a permanent magnet sitting on one coil end...