@All,

I see in http://www.ospmm.com/whipmag/ the magnets on the rotor are arranged NS SN NS SN NS SN NS SN.  Was that discussed before, is that the right arrangement for the working motor in the video?

Maybe that is just the trick that makes this thing work!
That arrangement creates 4 virtual N poles and 4 virtual S poles on the rotor and the interaction occurs always between three magnets - two on the rotor and one on the stator. This also causes the 4:1 ratio for the stator and the rotor.
Some theories suggest that magnetism has three aspects and maybe a practical working setup needs to have interaction of three magnets:
http://www.athenapolis.com/NN_MotorintheMagnet.htm and http://www.athenapolis.com/NN_FindingtheMotor.htm
http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90

Is that Desertphile ?? 

OC,

Do you expect Alsetalokin will come here now that the Steorn forum is apparently defunct ?

Or is Al permanently AWOL ?

Cheers,

Dean

I'll be back after the Strobe uploads.

Cheers,

Harvey

That will be really interesting, because there is a lot of wonder how the magnet on the stator is oriented in the AGW lock on the closest pas of the rotor magnet.
I think they are N to N and S to S, so the magnets are weaken at that point.
Svein

I thought the following post from the fizzx.com forum might be of interest to overunity forum members who would like to know more about the builder of the OCAL device.

It is taken from a thread discussing the existence or otherwise of a Steorn Jury. As you can see it was written just before the abortive Steorn demonstration at the Kinetica Museum, London.

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http://fizzx.com/viewtopic.php?p=1564&highlight=#1564

alsetalokin -  Mon Jul 02 -  2007 - 3:31 pm     

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Let's see--a number of points to be addressed.
The person to whom I referred was contracted and funded by a wealthy private individual to set up and administer a laboratory to subsidize, examine and hopefully confirm claims and research proposals in the area loosely termed "free energy", alternative propulsion, and anti-gravity. During the two or three years that the funding lasted, I worked closely in conjunction with this person. We examined quite a few claims and devices in the areas listed, funded several inventors, and paid for visits from several other internationally known inventors of these kinds of devices. Unfortunately and quite disappointingly, none of the projects we examined or funded produced positive results. It is important to note here that we were NOT set up to debunk the claims; on the contrary we were trying hard to get to something real and workable. Unfortunately, since we were/are scientists first and foremost, we had to apply the scientific method in an unbiased manner, and so we were able to identify fraud, prevarication, and error many times, but never any workable devices.
I have mentioned the jury member before, in an old post somewhere, so this info isn't new here, it is just an expansion in answer to the original question at the head of this thread.
It isn't pretentious garbage; I haven't come across anyone with anything like the credentials of the person referred to in this area, with one exception: my most recent employer, who also must remain nameless. You of course can believe whatever you will, but I have been fortunate enough to have been actually making my living working in the "free energy" field for over 7 years now, and as long as the checks keep clearing, I can't agree with the "pretentious garbage" characterization.
Nor, of course, am I Sean's stooge. From the experience I have accumulated, my position is clear: Steorn must almost certainly be wrong about their claim, for whatever reason, be it fraud, error, or some unfathomable third type of reason.
And, actually, it can be a bit complicated to debunk some types of free-energy devices. Otherwise we wouldn't be seeing so darn many of them on Youtube! Since many of the devices and systems (like certain "cold-fusion" cells, for example) produce small amounts of apparent excess energy, in rather unusual and hard-to-duplicate conditions, real tests of some of these devices may require fabrication and calibration of new types of equipment, expensive and extensive series of control experimentation, travel expenses for the principal researchers involved, and etc. I have detailed some examples of what I mean in other posts, for example the story of excess kinetic energy that took over 10 years to debunk finally.
exco is right that a PMM would probably be easy to debunk; unfortunately I have never been presented with one (although Minato did promise to bring one to our lab, he "forgot" it in Japan and we didn't get to see it). Most of the real labs working in this area (yes, there are several) never get to see anything quite so blatant--because, as exco says, they don't actually work.
Far more common are the devices that are claimed to produce slight increments in energy, slight decrements in weight or mass, slight anomalous thrusts, etc. and these claims are harder to deal with fairly.
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It is ironic, but entirely understandable, that Alan should be the person to discover the phenomena embodied in the OCAL device.

 

Finally got some shop time. I know it is not an exact replication. Not sure an exact replication is even possible if Al does not even know the strength of his magnets which will make a difference. Only have one more stator to make but with just playing with what I have I have formed a couple of ideas of why it may be working. I am not sure how many of you have played with making PMM. My first one years ago was on a 12 inch round wood circle that was 1 1/2 inch thick. I glued a bunch of steel angle iron pieces to a bunch of radio shaft large rectangular ceramic magnets. I was able to get it to spin with another magnet by hand and only moving it about 1/2 inch. I never figured out a way to replace my hand with a mechanical system. I think that is what these round stator magnets do. They pulse the rotor by rotating. BTW a great way to get it up to speed is with an air compressor wand as some of you have done. I also found it spins better one direction (CCW) then the other (CW). Not sure why.. Lots of playing to do before I get more shop time. At least it is a start..

Good work mate, Your Rig is looking really nice.

Cheers

Sean.

Has anyone seen any update info from Alsetalokin on the Steorn forum lately?
It looks like he left the scene.

Considering that there has been no "Steorn forum" until a short time ago, and the fact that the man sleeps and works a full time job, you may not hear from him until tonight or so.

Cheers,
Bruce

It would be very informative to have a video showing the rotor RPM for a stretch  before and after reversal from GW to AGW takes place. If there is such a video, apart form Alan Setalokin's, could someone give me the link, please.