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ken_nyus

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #930 on: January 16, 2008, 03:10:24 AM »
@All,

I see in http://www.ospmm.com/whipmag/ the magnets on the rotor are arranged NS SN NS SN NS SN NS SN.  Was that discussed before, is that the right arrangement for the working motor in the video?

That was my understanding.

From what I can see in the many videos (original, lightened, slowed down, even a parody!), that is what it looks like.

« Last Edit: January 16, 2008, 03:37:24 AM by ken_nyus »

hydrocontrol

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #931 on: January 16, 2008, 03:18:03 AM »
Here is a second picture.. Can I join the replicators club now  ;D

Real nice work hydrcontrol, you joined the first moment you started your replication, I'm really envying all those with the resources to make such neat setups.

Thanks. I bettered my pathetic machining skills by learning how to use the rotary table for the brigeport mill correctly. Still has some flaws. I had to wrap a bit a tape around a couple of rotor magnets to keep them wedged in place. The stators can stand some improvement. The bearings I used are smooth and rated for 56,000 RPM but you can feel the effect of the stator magnets on them. I think I will try to put a few steel washers under the stator magnet to kill the magnetic field to the bearing. Not sure if it will work but is a easy try. I used a Rubbermaid cutting board for the materials. A roller blade bearing for the rotor. Using a air compressor I can get it spinning fast. So fast I am afraid the magnets are going to fly off. I got a Tach on order. I am also looking at a way to computerize tach readings from a couple of points. This is an interesting project and even if it does not work at least I am improving my machining skills a bit. Still wish I had a CNC machine like others here  ;)  Anyway I should have another stator done tomorrow night along with the Aluminum parts.

Rosphere

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #932 on: January 16, 2008, 03:27:20 AM »
Don't we all remember what happened last time Mythbusters "replicated" something from the free-energy world (Bedini's Free-energy generator, original design from 1984) they purposely sabotaged the experiment and discredited the inventor.

Thank you.  I was waiting for someone to bring that up again so I could state that:

I once loved Adam and Jamie.  If they ever rushed through some episode and the fans let them know via email then they would often revisit the topic and try it again.  This was the ONLY EPISODE that they asked for NO EMAIL on a topic,... my favorite topic.  Wouldn't you know it, the first time that I was about to write to them about anything and it was deemed VERBOTEN before I could reach my keyboard.

On second thought, it is probably better that they never revisit this topic.  We are dealing with a metastable female force that requires patience and finesse.  She can ignore you your whole life or rip your heart out in one moment.  She cares not that your precious episode goes to air in a week, or even two.  They downloaded some plans off the internet, they rushed them together, nothing worked, and now they never wish to speak of it again.  HA!  I hope they never try again.  They just do not have the time:  "It'll never work.  We'll never make it.  We're doomed."--Glum, Gulliver's Travels, Banana Splits

MYTHBUSTERS: Strike one more item off my short and shrinking list of, "must see tee vee!"  :P

cub3

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #933 on: January 16, 2008, 04:09:11 AM »
Hydro

any chance you could post smaller pic's

Ive only got dial up  :-[

Den

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« Reply #934 on: January 16, 2008, 04:45:33 AM »
Mark has been told that the bearings for the rotor are to big and that they have to be changed to the 1/2" bearings to get the same result as the video on youtube. We all have our doubts about this, but Mark found a source for free material for the rotor and is making three new ones tonight. Not to worry, Mark said he can make a rotor in around one hour. Mark is one of the most gifted machinists I have ever known and our group is lucky to have him aboard. His contributions to design have been very valuable also. We want to have the motor as close to a perfect copy as possible to the one in the video.
This bearing change will accomplish that.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

hydrocontrol

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #935 on: January 16, 2008, 04:58:46 AM »
Hydro

any chance you could post smaller pic's

Ive only got dial up  :-[

Den
Sorry about that.. Changed to 800x600. Should be a bit smaller and faster.

Bruce_TPU

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« Reply #936 on: January 16, 2008, 05:02:14 AM »
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 We all have our doubts about this,
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We want to have the motor as close to a perfect copy as possible to the one in the video.
This bearing change will accomplish that.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

I doubt it, if what I saw in the first video is any indication.  You guys might try spinning the stator magnet faster than the rotor, this next time.   ;)

So, we all have our doubts about this, but probably not the same ones you do.   ;)

Good luck to your group,


Bruce

hydrocontrol

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #937 on: January 16, 2008, 05:03:28 AM »
So what happened to CLaNZeR (Sean). He posted on his site http://www.overunity.org.uk
 that he got the correct magnets and posted a video of it working (?) or almost working and now all the videos on his site are dead and no updates. Hope he is okay..

amigo

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #938 on: January 16, 2008, 05:25:13 AM »
So what happened to CLaNZeR (Sean). He posted on his site http://www.overunity.org.uk
 that he got the correct magnets and posted a video of it working (?) or almost working and now all the videos on his site are dead and no updates. Hope he is okay..
Maybe we are eating too much of his bandwidth so he had to take them down? It's strange because when you click on a video it just opens a blank page for me, normally a plugin would kick in or an external player...

Freezer

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #939 on: January 16, 2008, 05:26:26 AM »
He posts his videos here.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=overunityorguk

Seems like he's a lancer guy.  ;)  I'm a civic guy myself, but like lancers.

dean_mcgowan

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #940 on: January 16, 2008, 05:36:50 AM »
R.I.P Steorn

cub3

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #941 on: January 16, 2008, 05:38:15 AM »
Thanks hydro,

I should not at this time but for all
a distraction

How does one move 30ton blocks by oneself

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/CoralCastle/index.html

His explaniaton of magnetic current.

Magnetic Current
By Edward Leedskalnin

http://www.labyrinthina.com/ed.html

Regards Den

Harvey

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #942 on: January 16, 2008, 05:54:13 AM »
I put the vid up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZglbWM8j0_o

Its a real mess, turned 90 degrees - sound didn't convert right on most of it so I had to narrate some the beginning and end.

I don't see anything special in it that most of you don't already know but you might spot something I missed or discounted.

I've got some strobe shots a few minutes ago but the frame interactions are bad. I'll convert it and stick it up anyway. Some may be able to get a couple good frames out of it.

Any word on the Steorn Forum?

Cheers,

Harvey

Harvey

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #943 on: January 16, 2008, 06:06:33 AM »
So what happened to CLaNZeR (Sean). He posted on his site http://www.overunity.org.uk
 that he got the correct magnets and posted a video of it working (?) or almost working and now all the videos on his site are dead and no updates. Hope he is okay..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc1K6WhsUHg

Now for the Rotor Magnets ;-)


blue_energy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #944 on: January 16, 2008, 06:25:58 AM »
I'm not sure that Sony will be happy that you're advertising for them!   :P

You make a couple of very fascinating points, Harvey.  You say that the repulsion from the rotor is palpable when the stator is stationary (and that it always chooses the repulsion face of the stator magnet in that state) yet when the stator is moving - the rotor attracts it.  Is that the case regardless whether the stator is moving gear-wise or anti-gear-wise?