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Author Topic: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??  (Read 1333837 times)

jcims

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #690 on: January 13, 2008, 09:18:19 PM »
Quote from: CLaNZeR on January 13, 2008, 08:37:37 PM
And yep it does sound to initially speed up when it latches as you can hear.
I will get the Tacho connected back up and see if we can catch it.
There will probably always be a small bit of an energy transfer from the stator to the rotor as it enters into the sync range, but in this case there is such a difference between masses i wouldn't expect that to be very large at all.

(Edit: Oh, and i think we all appreciate the quality of the videos...no apologies necessary!)
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Localjoe

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #691 on: January 13, 2008, 09:32:31 PM »
Funny how after hearing that clip i completely agree... I think you folks may actually have it hear... You know take just before Christmas... tpu was getting close a few other ideas were maturing and what do we have now... A dam near finished tpu base design and a possible perpetual mob ilium that has showed the most promise ive ever seen ... Whether there is a greater power out there or that power consists of many minds thinking in a positive direction.. somethings looking down on us. :)
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #692 on: January 13, 2008, 09:38:24 PM »
Quote from: Localjoe on January 13, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
Funny how after hearing that clip i completely agree... I think you folks may actually have it here... You know, take just before Christmas... tpu was getting close a few other ideas were maturing and what do we have now... A damn near finished tpu base design and a possible perpetual mobilium that has showed the most promise I've ever seen ... Whether there is a greater power out there or that power consists of many minds thinking in a positive direction.. something's looking down on us. :)
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Nikola Tesla probably.  ::)
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schoolboy2000

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #693 on: January 13, 2008, 09:48:43 PM »
Hi CLaNZeR,

In the 2nd to last video:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch2.wmv

I don't see the upper left stator sync\spin till the very end, and "right after" it does, your latching (opposite spin) stator seems to make things happen. In Al's video it looks like both outside stators spin all the time and, actually, all three, until Al spins the latching one backwards to speed things up. Could be that upper left stator may be vertically off by a hair ? Or ? Anyone ?
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schoolboy2000

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #694 on: January 13, 2008, 09:51:08 PM »
CLaNZeR,

Oh, other than that observation, I think congratulations are in order, you're on the right track !!! Maybe switch the outside stators and see if the bundle of rings are behaving differently, might just solve it when you get the actual one piece rings.
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mudwump

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #695 on: January 13, 2008, 09:57:14 PM »
http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch4.wmv

Congratulations CLaNZeR, I heard an increase in the spin of the rotor. I think the award for first replication goes to you.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 10:46:29 PM by mudwump »
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Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #696 on: January 13, 2008, 10:12:03 PM »
hi clanzer great stuff glad i goaded you into trying an alternative magnet. My short video posted previously  does not show much but there is a definate change of tone when you anti gear the stator ,don?t forget i am using all the wrong measurements too lol..this may be easier to replicate than we think. i hope so..I can?t understand why the other replication  does not achieve the anti gear , perhaps he needs to use air line or dremil to get the speed up.

There may be a simple formula behind all of this, all very exciting so far
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #697 on: January 13, 2008, 10:19:47 PM »
Quote from: Rosphere on January 13, 2008, 08:28:18 PM
Your third video appears to have the "magneto kinetic Jetson damper" added?  Would you care to elaborate?  (Sorry if I missed it earlier.)
EDIT: Also seen in the fourth video as well.  (Circled in image below.)

Hi Rosphere

Nothing to elaborate on really, just lathed down some aluminium as per specs by AL and in the plans by JDO.

I spaced them with about 4mm gap from the outside of the Rotor.

Cheers

Sean.
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #698 on: January 13, 2008, 10:22:58 PM »
Quote from: MeggerMan on January 13, 2008, 08:30:18 PM
I really am now looking forward to the results with the correct magnets.

I hope to have some N42 12mm OD x 6mm diametric disks by Monday. I am tempted to send you 3 so you can perform a better test.
With first class post you could have them by Tuesday if they turn up tomorrow.

Do you know when the K&J magnets were dispatched?

Hi Rob

Thanks for the kind offer but as usual I will decline, got enough too keep me occupied and was not going to play with any other stator config until trying the original, but blame it on my mate Craigy grrrrrrrrrr LOL  ;D

I ordered my magnets from KJ last Saturday I think as soon as I saw the Video, lest hope they have not put their outside USA orders to the back :(

Cheers

Sean.
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #699 on: January 13, 2008, 10:25:03 PM »
Quote from: Freezer on January 13, 2008, 08:49:23 PM
Looks like the stator has a little play in it, and could be giving it a little extra energy at the right time.

The Rotor is rock solid with not even 0.5mm play, I made sure of that :)
The Stators at the moment are just dropped into the 3mm RC bearings and do lift a bit. I will wait for the correct Stator magnets to arrive before securing proper as such!

Cheers

Sean.
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #700 on: January 13, 2008, 10:26:29 PM »
Quote from: geodan on January 13, 2008, 08:51:25 PM
SWEET!!!  the only thing I'd say is that you might be working against the rotation of the rotor by squirting air in from that angle, perhaps from another direction it might be more productive?

Yep agree, but also atleast people cannot say the Air Line is speeding up the Rotor  ;D like you pointed out it shoudl slow it down.
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #701 on: January 13, 2008, 10:30:11 PM »
Quote from: schoolboy2000 on January 13, 2008, 09:48:43 PM
Hi CLaNZeR,

In the 2nd to last video:

http://www.overunity.org.uk/ocpm/tests/CLaNZeRSlatch2.wmv

I don't see the upper left stator sync\spin till the very end, and "right after" it does, your latching (opposite spin) stator seems to make things happen. In Al's video it looks like both outside stators spin all the time and, actually, all three, until Al spins the latching one backwards to speed things up. Could be that upper left stator may be vertically off by a hair ? Or ? Anyone ?

Hi SC2000

I have found so far by locking the top left magnet I can get it to sync better than if it is running.
No idea why, could be to do with the strange field these magnets create when joined together like they are. I will not even try to analyse it too much and would prefer too spend the brain work on the real stator magnets when they arrive.

One thing worth noting, moving any of the magnets 2mm wider or closer stops the syncing. I have tried too keep the Stators 4-5mm from edge of the Rotor.

Cheers

Sean.
 
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Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #702 on: January 13, 2008, 10:35:33 PM »
Sean check your mail,,,
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #703 on: January 13, 2008, 10:37:02 PM »
Quote from: Craigy on January 13, 2008, 10:35:33 PM
Sean check your mail,,,

Have done mate, and many thanks!!!

Cannot believe the video you sent and I think you should REALLY make it public mate.

Cheers

Sean.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #704 on: January 13, 2008, 10:41:34 PM »
Hey Guys,
Are you trying to make us nuts here? Well, Ok more nuts. Post it up.  >:(
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