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g4macdad

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #510 on: January 12, 2008, 01:35:45 AM »
Omnibus,
Read my post more carefully. I was saying that you are not a zealot or Pharisee. I have seen you get continuously attacked so the defensive attitude is forgivable.

Omnibus is not being attacked.
He just pretends to have a proof that he simply hasn?t. What he does have is a limited understanding of SMOT and a huge ego. But little science indeed. I?d guess his skills are somewhere around to those of a high-school teacher but not a brilliant one. I?d be curious to know about his real credentials?

Anyway, the story is long and this issue is off-topic here. But if you want to find more, just ask Omnibus politely to show you where is the CoE violation for SMOT ?proved beyond any doubt?. And you?ll see and understand for yourself.

Cheers everyone and sorry for deviating from the topic.
Tinu


I have seen Omnibus's posts for almost a year in the Steorn forum. Most the people there seem to have far less knowledge on this subject than they would have us think (skeptics and nonskeptics alike). I have no more reason to doubt him than anyone else. Leave him alone and provide your own "proofs", or keep quite. Thanks ;)

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #511 on: January 12, 2008, 01:39:59 AM »
it was estimated that total run time was a day and a half in theory, i am guessing that the magnets are saturating , which would account for the slowing down. perhaps the position of the other stators is wrong in that respect. if that were the case then a fine tunning of one of the stationary stators would could push the rotor magnets back down from saturated and enable constant runs.
Since the machine can be re-started the magnets are not depleating.

All of this is fine , but until we reproduce this we will never know for sure, an while i would like it to work i will not hold my breath. I am enjoying the ride tho..

I understand what your saying - But - If it doesnt have a battery or motor hidden or somewhere nearby, and I don't think it does and IF it works as described or shown in the video - like was said on another forum thread

 " if this aint overunity, then I'm a banana."

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Another Magnet Motor Idea
« Reply #512 on: January 12, 2008, 02:01:58 AM »
A PESWiki user, Chris Wilshaw posted the following comment:

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I have been reading up on this idea since joining PES Wiki a couple of days ago, I see there have been thousands of comments made along the way.

I think asymmetry is the key too, as that is the idea in my magnet motor. It stands to reason that a symmetrical system would find a comfy place and rest there. Just thinking of a simple simple version it's like a magnetic compass. There has to be some way of splitting a circle into divisions that the magnets can't get comfy with.

Can someone here tell me how to get my idea prototyped?

>>> Perpetually Rotating Bar Magnet Arrangement <<<

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Perpetually_Rotating_Bar_Magnet_Arrangement

/END QUOTE

His email is chriswilshaw {at} gmail.com

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #513 on: January 12, 2008, 02:16:56 AM »
Well,  I'm all ready for testing tomorrow.  Everything is ready just to drop in the magnets and test away.  I've been building test machines for the Butch lafonte Group for the last few years.  If this works I'll build two more, one for Butch and one for another guy in our group.  We'll do many tests, so you will hear about it.



Just Wonding Dusty any news. Seems very quiet.

Wayne

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #514 on: January 12, 2008, 02:39:06 AM »
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A seven hour run is exciting. Got magnets, just have to get the rest of the machine together!
I got all the mags too and am also trying to get the rest of the machine together....   Maybe as soon as tonight....
Dan

Me too. Got the rotor done but need the bearings for the stator magnets. I ordered them from Applied Technology since they are in town but they will not come in till Monday..  :'(  At least it will give me time to finish the base..

TomG

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #515 on: January 12, 2008, 03:08:10 AM »
Well,  I'm all ready for testing tomorrow.  Everything is ready just to drop in the magnets and test away.  I've been building test machines for the Butch lafonte Group for the last few years.  If this works I'll build two more, one for Butch and one for another guy in our group.  We'll do many tests, so you will hear about it.



Just Wonding Dusty any news. Seems very quiet.

Wayne

Hi, im that "other guy" dusty is talking about.
Public message from Butch today on the JLN labs newsletter:

" the LaFonte Group is building three for testing by three different group
members. We expect to test today or tomorrow.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte"

You should here from us soon.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #516 on: January 12, 2008, 03:17:53 AM »
Hi All,

Glad to see some of the users over at the Steorn forum have come over to join us. As of now, I have my magnets for the motor, and Bruce is sending me some bearings for it. Bruce and I are working with another person, Hank to get a single prototype built. Should have the machine work finished sometime early next week, but as I can see, I have a feeling that a lot of you hear may beat us to the punch  ;).

There are a couple of notes that I would like to bring up. First off, could one of you Steorn users pass along the blueprint PDF file to Al? I am almost certain everything is correct in it but I would feel even better to know that he approves of the dimensions I put in it. Here's the direct link to the file:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3871.0;attach=16346

Also, I've noticed a few discussions relating to the theory about how this may work. Bruce mentioned the simulations that AL did showing some spikes in the graphs:

@ Jason

Take a look at the bottom shot of this OC sim posted from Al's thread.  Al was commenting on the bottom negative spike.  Does that look to you what I think?  Remember that post of yours along time ago, about the exact same looking negative spike? 

Perhaps I am seeing things?   ???

LOL

Let me know what you think.  It is intriguing.

http://www.geocities.com/deasyart/steorn/OC_sim_one_stator_a.JPG

Cheers,
Bruce 

I have done some research on an effect that produces similar spikes to the ones in the graph Bruce pointed out. My conviction is that this motor runs on the Magnetic 90 Degree Rule. I wrote an extensive article about this a couple of years ago. Here is a link to it for anyone who may be interested:

http://www.fdp.nu/free_energy.asp?book=90

God Bless,
Jason O


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Re: Another Magnet Motor Idea
« Reply #517 on: January 12, 2008, 03:19:07 AM »
A PESWiki user, Chris Wilshaw posted the following comment:

QUOTE:

I have been reading up on this idea since joining PES Wiki a couple of days ago, I see there have been thousands of comments made along the way.

I think asymmetry is the key too, as that is the idea in my magnet motor. It stands to reason that a symmetrical system would find a comfy place and rest there. Just thinking of a simple simple version it's like a magnetic compass. There has to be some way of splitting a circle into divisions that the magnets can't get comfy with.

Can someone here tell me how to get my idea prototyped?

>>> Perpetually Rotating Bar Magnet Arrangement <<<

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Perpetually_Rotating_Bar_Magnet_Arrangement

/END QUOTE

His email is chriswilshaw {at} gmail.com
IMHO and my experience
It's no more or no less the result would be the same as Perendev Device.
Pulling magnetic force on the one side plus Pushing magnetic force on another side equal to zero.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #518 on: January 12, 2008, 04:32:41 AM »
I noticed this quote at the bottom of one of the pages. Can someone tell me who is the author - Presumably the owner of the site. Being a Newbie I'm still finding my way around, :-\

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Any concepts or ideas expressed in this post are intended for the public domain. Free licence is given to reproduce and or modify provided it is for non-profit use. I don't want money, I want overunity.
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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #519 on: January 12, 2008, 04:33:06 AM »
"[C]ould one of you Steorn users pass along the blueprint PDF file to Al? I am almost certain everything is correct in it but I would feel even better to know that he approves of the dimensions I put in it."

Jason, your blueprint was pointed out to alsetalokin two days ago.  He said you did a great job, and suggested a slight modification:

Wow! That looks like something I could build!
That's a really good job, Jason.
I see you even put the thread fit class in.
The only thing I would add or change is the rotor axle. I know it's what I showed in most of the pictures. But if you look at the later ones, you will see a 3.5 mm shaft instead of the 1/4-20 brass screw, and the 1/2 in hole in the rotor has been "plugged" with a Delrin insert to adapt to this shaft. The shaft is mounted in a dual ball bearing holder with a spring compression end-play eliminator, and the holder in turn is mounted on the base, in lieu of the brass screw. The rotor now simply slides on and off the shaft. For upside down runs I secure the rotor with a little retaining collar with a setscrew.

It's nice to see a real engineering drawing for a change. I usually just sketch stuff on napkins, and that makes it hard to see those leftover bits of food that are so tasty in the middle of the night.  

http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60141&page=2#Item_10

(And he's right, it is a great job.)

Bruce_TPU

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #520 on: January 12, 2008, 04:38:59 AM »
Hi All,

Glad to see some of the users over at the Steorn forum have come over to join us. As of now, I have my magnets for the motor, and Bruce is sending me some bearings for it. Bruce and I are working with another person, Hank to get a single prototype built. Should have the machine work finished sometime early next week, but as I can see, I have a feeling that a lot of you hear may beat us to the punch  ;).

(Snip)

A correction, three prototypes being built.   One for each of us.  ;)

Plus fish oil for the bearings.  (go figure!  LOL  It might be the smelliest motor, but when it works.. hehehe!) 

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Another Magnet Motor Idea
« Reply #521 on: January 12, 2008, 04:41:46 AM »
A PESWiki user, Chris Wilshaw posted the following comment:
>>> Perpetually Rotating Bar Magnet Arrangement <<<

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Perpetually_Rotating_Bar_Magnet_Arrangement
IMHO and my experience
It's no more or no less the result would be the same as Perendev Device.
Pulling magnetic force on the one side plus Pushing magnetic force on another side equal to zero.


I would guess that this is what a physicist would say about any magnet motor configuration.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #522 on: January 12, 2008, 04:56:41 AM »
It's nice to see a real engineering drawing for a change.  

Sure is  :) . Took me back half a century to sharpening my H pencil on a sanding block.
 But you've probably never seen on of those.  ;)


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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #523 on: January 12, 2008, 05:00:11 AM »
It's nice to see a real engineering drawing for a change.  

Sure is  :) . Took me back half a century to sharpening my H pencil on a sanding block.
 But you've probably never seen on of those.  ;)



Or perhaps scratching India ink with a razorblade of the transparent paper and rubbing the spot with a little soap so you could draw a new line without it running??

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??
« Reply #524 on: January 12, 2008, 05:20:10 AM »
 ;D  Wow!

Check out this post of Al's, from the latest test.  I had a feeling those stator's could go a lot faster.

"was able to get a 12-to-1 resonance going. With the unit operating, presumably on the one stator, I spun another stator magnet really fast gearwise, and it caught, and ran very smoothly, I could tell the stator was spinning faster than usual, and I was amazed when the tach confirmed it. 2 examples: rotor 1050, stator GW 12586. Rotor 1040, stator GW 12454."

Cheers,

Bruce