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Lakes

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #300 on: January 09, 2008, 11:07:50 PM »
I`ve sent an email to the e-magnets website with the specs from the K&J website to see if can provide both the correct rotor and stator magnets thats needed.

I let you know when I get a reply.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2008, 11:46:59 PM by Lakes »

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #301 on: January 09, 2008, 11:15:55 PM »
We recently stroke a deal with such company to build their antenna on our property and pay us a monthly rent for that. So, you say, had we found a proper device we could also steal energy from that. But that's stealing (forgive the frank language) while I think what we're working on is producing energy from nothing. Anyway, just a little friendly chit-chat now while waiting for the magnets.  My friend already started the lathing an milling, the magnets and the bearings will arrive soon and it'll be seen shortly what we're facing.

Apparently far back when they first started transmitting TV signals, people found a way of tapping power off it, but the way that the TV stations found out was that the signal was not reaching the whole area that it was meant too reach, this was because the buggers were tapping it for power and draining the signal before it got that far hehe  ;D

So you cannot really call this FREE ENERGY as it is being created from another source anyway.

It is illegal to do this BTW and I would not advise to have a go :)

Take a motor and get it to increase the speed of a Rotor from 1000rpm to 4000 rpm, it will take current to start that motor, it will take current to get it too that 4000rpm speed. That requires energy, but if AL's Rig has found a away of doing it without anything but the magnets then we Defo got something interesting here!


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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #302 on: January 09, 2008, 11:33:58 PM »
Hey guys,

Al posted this just today and thought it might help.

"Oh, and the rotor is HDPE, the base is acrylic (perspex or plexiglas) and the stator bearing/magnet holders, and the rotor shaft adapter, are of Delrin.
The stators are held to the base in my unit with austenitic SS socket-head cap screws, #4-40, and a tiny washer for clearance (under the bearing).
(ETA I found plastic screws were too flexible for this purpose.)
"


Cheers,
Bruce

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #303 on: January 09, 2008, 11:53:34 PM »
@btentzer,

Any idea where to order these form or Home Depot will have tons of them?

@CLaNZeR,

Didn't know about the tv companies. Interesting. Now we'll put it in a Faraday cage to prove to the authorities what we already know anyway, that is, that the effect isn't due to tapping into the energy pool of an antenna and therefore it isn't illegal. Nevertheless, I won't be amazed if the government pronounces this particular way of energy production (production of energy from nothing) as illegal if it becomes abundant and people start detaching themselves from the utility companies. You watch.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #304 on: January 10, 2008, 12:10:21 AM »
Everyone still waiting for magnets? Maybe they're out of stock after selling so many for that secret military Black Project?

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #305 on: January 10, 2008, 12:20:02 AM »
i bought the magnets 30 seconds after watching the video , and saw the video as it was posted LOL , nutters arn?t we. I take Al doesn?t work for kj does he ..?

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #306 on: January 10, 2008, 12:20:07 AM »
We recently stroke a deal with such company to build their antenna on our property and pay us a monthly rent for that. So, you say, had we found a proper device we could also steal energy from that. But that's stealing (forgive the frank language) while I think what we're working on is producing energy from nothing. Anyway, just a little friendly chit-chat now while waiting for the magnets.  My friend already started the lathing an milling, the magnets and the bearings will arrive soon and it'll be seen shortly what we're facing.

Apparently far back when they first started transmitting TV signals, people found a way of tapping power off it, but the way that the TV stations found out was that the signal was not reaching the whole area that it was meant too reach, this was because the buggers were tapping it for power and draining the signal before it got that far hehe  ;D

So you cannot really call this FREE ENERGY as it is being created from another source anyway.

It is illegal to do this BTW and I would not advise to have a go :)

Take a motor and get it to increase the speed of a Rotor from 1000rpm to 4000 rpm, it will take current to start that motor, it will take current to get it too that 4000rpm speed. That requires energy, but if AL's Rig has found a away of doing it without anything but the magnets then we Defo got something interesting here!



hmmm... so the number of radios tuned to a station diminishes the signal?  Doesn't sound right to me...

Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #307 on: January 10, 2008, 12:40:30 AM »
I remember a story of someone lighting their shed back in nazi germany with the power from one of the most powerful transmitters of the time, (Gobels and all that), i thing they were like 10 km away from a megawatt signal. The Chap strung a long wire antenna up between some trees and conected it to earth via a light bulb.

Any way , from what i remember , he ended up shot for it...

Radio recievers do not take energy out , in fact they are more liable to re-radiate the signal recieved.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #308 on: January 10, 2008, 01:13:11 AM »
I got my K&J magnetics today. Ordered Monday. Standard shipping. No express. Nice magnets. Got 2 two sizes of ring magnets.. The 1/2x3/16x1/4 (R834DIA) and the 3/4x1/4x3/4 (RC4CDIA). Got a couple of different 1/4 rod ones as well.  It is nice they throw in a sample bag of magnets except they stuck to the other magnets and the bag ripped when i tried to remove. They might prove useful. . Now if I only had a rig to mount it all. Lets see.. Got a $10.00 poly cutting board from WallyWorld. Standard cheap material to used for prototypes. Easy to machine. That should should be big enough for the rotor and base. Got a rod of 6061-t6 aluminum. Got some Pleasure Tool roller skate bearings that should go up to high rpm... Now to convince the machinist that I need to use the shop ;) hummm... Maybe show him the video of the motor. That might work. I'll see if I can get started building tonight...  Later...

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #309 on: January 10, 2008, 01:32:00 AM »
Hey Guys,

I spoke with the owner of A & W Bearings and Supply Co.
1-936-564-4810

Ask for Mike Butler 

He knows all about the magnet motor and has all the drawings.

Bearings for the Stator Magnets:
Part number = R3
Size is 1/2" OD
3/16" ID
1/8" Thickness
Price is $2.40 each, Package of 10
= $24.40
Steel Bearing
RPM rated:
With Grease 41,000 RPM's
With Oil 48,000 RPM's   ;D
No Seal (Less friction)

Bearing for Rotor Stator
1/2" OD
1/4" ID
1/8" Thickness (times 2.  One on top and one on bottom.)
No Flange
$1.50 each per package of 10 =
$10.50 
Same type and rating as above.

For flanged, he is pricing tomorrow.  Shipping is added and is subject to where you live, and how you want it shipped, etc.

Mike is excited about this project.

Cheers,
Bruce

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #310 on: January 10, 2008, 01:50:36 AM »
Here's my attempt so far, just started it today, should have it done by today, im hoping anyway...lol

bearings ripped out of HDD, one on nylon disk was forced in by using drill press, thx for the tip who mentioned this in this thread.
The 4 smaller bearings you see there on that brass screw were actually taken from the one housing, if you force the shaft through, you will get at least two bearings from the one.

Oh the reason theres those large squares cut out, is because this was from another project i was doing, for bedini rotor.
I used drill press to do all the work here and small file.

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #311 on: January 10, 2008, 02:08:30 AM »
Have been watching this thread with great interest.  Just wishing all you replicators (nothing to do with Stargate) all the best success.  I'd have a go and indeed had some ideas of my own but currently suffering from FIAS due to lack of funds, tools and materials   :-[


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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #312 on: January 10, 2008, 02:10:30 AM »
What about the dampers? From my reading the original configuration would not work without them...

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...the unit runs faster without the magnokinetic Judson dampers. Typical stator speeds are 8000 rpm, rotor 2000. But the unit is quite unstable at those speeds, maybe due to the cheap bearings I used for the stators. But that's unknown, it could be that the bearing chatter actually contributes to the effect by some chaotic dynamical interaction. Don't ask me with what!

Anyway the unit will run up to high speed but only stays for a short time before the stator "drops out" and the rotor freewheels to a stop. I figured that a little eddy-current damping at high speeds (and proportionally less at low speeds, so the damping at startup speeds is essentially zero.) would do the trick.

There was an adjustment process that took a couple hours to find the sweet spot and the orientation, and it seemed so close to an already drilled and tapped set of holes in the base, that I just used the existing holes, even though the positioning wasn't totally optimum. It seems to do what I intended. I never anticipated the need for these dampers when I was laying out the unit.
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Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #313 on: January 10, 2008, 02:18:56 AM »
i will worry about the dampers when i have the magnets, any way , without the dampers it still sped up to unbelievable revs, so i will be looking for that before i install them..

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #314 on: January 10, 2008, 02:20:22 AM »
What's FIAS?