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Dansway

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2008, 11:48:12 PM »
Ok I see the schem for the idea of this motor, but what subtle changes have been made?
What do the stator mags look like?

Thanks.

Dan

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2008, 11:49:21 PM »
@TheOne

Have I seen that picture posted somewhere before? on this site I mean?

Your right it doesn't seem fake.

@Craigy

Beefed up using lenz' law ??


Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2008, 12:15:57 AM »
Similar yes , if you mean the design that had magnets spining on cogs linked to the rotor, but here they are free to rotate.  This was discovered by accident , the idea was that the magnets were to contra rotate to the direction of the rotor. Then one was spun the wrong way by mistake and the video is the result

Dansway

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2008, 12:20:05 AM »
@Craigy,

Please, could you let me know what the stator magnets look like or relay their geometry so that I can work on a replication?

Are they round magnets (sphere) or something else?

Regards,

Dan


hydrocontrol

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2008, 12:21:25 AM »
It "looks" real but so did Mike's self running motor..
Skeptic mode on :
'If you going to build a bullet proof demo that you are going to promote then build it entirely out of CLEAR material. Why is the base made out of clear material but the rotor made out a material that could easily hide a small motor underneath ? Why does the lighting need to be so poor ? Sure it was picked up to show nothing directly under the motor but the backside of the motor was never shown. Why ? A possible way to fake this is to have a already running motor with a flywheel with magnets attached under the table. By hand spinning the rotor it would sync up with the already running motor under the table by way of magnetic coupling. I am not saying it was done this way but with the recent glut of fake PMM videos you get skeptical after a fashion.
Skeptic mode off :

'Looks' promising. More and better videos plus constructions specs need to follow so independent building can proceed.

Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2008, 12:28:41 AM »
All noted..But this does not self sustan just yet. it is doing some weird things like accelerating , and the wind down time is far longer than it should be, i have bought the same magnets , although won't get them for 2 weeks as i am down in the canaries

edit..

Magnets are from kjmagnetics.com

Part Number: R834DIA
1 Pack of 10
Unit Price: $17.10
Product Total: $17.10
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Part Number: B448
1 Pack of 10
Unit Price: $8.20
Product Total: $8.20

bourne

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2008, 12:34:12 AM »
Opposites attract

An idea keeps popping into my head. When dealing with magnets, if the opposite of what you want to achieve is performed it will attract the desired result.

The video, if indeed real (please let it be so), sort of proves that !

@hydrocontrol

watch the beginning again, when he is spinning the stators slowly with his fingers you can see the magnetic interactions flicking the rotor round. No way is there a motor running under the table.


Craigy

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2008, 12:49:27 AM »
the autor of the video did not want to so it as a working machine , just to show the werid behaviour he is of the opinion that its picking up some radiation from somewhere,  even so that it is intruging.

Omnibus

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2008, 01:37:20 AM »
This is one of the most exciting experiments so far. On par with those of @xpenzif and the Lego one. In fact it's a variation of the Lego motor design and of a design whose plans I purchased overa year ago from ebay coming from:

http://grandpawsshop.com/

Unfortunately, surprise, lack of funds and mostly lack of a convincing video such as this of @alsetalonkin prevented me from going ahead with it.

jonnydavro

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2008, 02:01:59 AM »
Hi,im not a prolific poster but i am quietly replicating idea's from this forum,currently one of  plengo's, but this magnet motor looks very intresting.
Here is a pdf of parts list and discusion between designer and a very skillful engineer for  proof of concept.
Here is link to photos off the results.

http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/photo

Regards Jonnydavro

TheOne

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2008, 03:49:26 AM »
From the photo of the guys, here some text about a photo:

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Measuring the rotation rate of a stator magnet with the laser tachometer.
Red color is from the laser.
Motion is completely frozen by the flash, but the stator magnet is going over 5000 rpm, and the rotor is turning 1250+.

Is this is possible to get this kind of quality on a moving rotor?

Dansway

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2008, 04:04:34 AM »
A good camera can stop this type of rotation easily.

The tach looks like it is showing a part of a "5" in it's display.

Dan

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2008, 04:09:46 AM »
Is this is possible to get this kind of quality on a moving rotor?

Yes, if it's dark and you use a flash. 

Look at the gap to the left of the word "Ride!".  You can see the blurry white continuation of the disk that was recorded on the film when the flash was off.

I gotta say that this video is very exciting.  Alsetalonkin does good work and seems to have earned credibility.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

TheOne

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2008, 04:32:59 AM »
Is this is possible to get this kind of quality on a moving rotor?

Yes, if it's dark and you use a flash. 

Look at the gap to the left of the word "Ride!".  You can see the blurry white continuation of the disk that was recorded on the film when the flash was off.

I gotta say that this video is very exciting.  Alsetalonkin does good work and seems to have earned credibility.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy


You are right, I did not know you can capture such a good photo with a rotating rotor :)

I have the same magnet for the inner rotor (100), I will ebay the other magnet and hopefully find cheaper one compared to the site suggested and maybe try a replica

TheOne

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Re: Working Magnetic Motor on you tube!!!
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2008, 04:54:59 AM »
Ok I find some on ebay for the outer magnet, what do you think about this magnets?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/20-Neodymium-Magnets-1-2-x-1-8-inch-Disc-DIAMETRIC-N48_W0QQitemZ160117140919QQihZ006QQcategoryZ413QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m118

20 Neodymium Magnets 1/2 x 1/8 inch Disc DIAMETRIC N48 (so its like 10 x 1/2 x 1/4)

Its 2$ less then the other site suggested but with the shipping included

Update:

Its maybe not a good idea since you cannot stack 2 magnets with diametric magnet so get the 1/4 size instead of 1/8