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allcanadian

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2008, 06:21:46 PM »
@mramos
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Nothing posted in this thread is new here.  Even the patent numbers seem to be the same as the year before and the year before that... repeated a few times.

Maybe we should post something new then ;D
Here are some thoughts that could be applied to Patent 568177

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Demagnetizing :Using an AC(alternating current)field
The method uses a magnetic field generated by a current flowing through a solenoid to change the ordering of the magnetic dipole. An AC current is used to produce magnetic field of changing direction near the magnet. The(electro-)magnetic field caused the magnetic dipoles to switch direction many times. Each time the field point to one direction some magnetic dipoles will try to align along that direction. If the field is big enough, many will align along that direction. When the field is reduced and reversed not all these magnetic poles will reverse. Hence, by repeating this process many time (that's why an AC current is needed) and also by reducing the magnitude of the current as we go, to reduce the strength of the (electro-)magnetic field, the magnetism of the magnet can be reduced to almost zero or perhaps for most practical purpose zero. In an electromagnet, ceasing the flow of current will eliminate the magnetic field. However, a slight field may remain in the core material as a result of hysteresis.

Keep in mind that this type of demagnetizing is low frequency, I wonder what Teslas currents of high frequency and potential might do? A DIAMAGNETIC FIELD perhaps? I find it very odd that EMdevices "beloved" science has nothing to say on this subject----nothing, they are playing around with levitating frogs and water. Tesla on the other hand was generating fields at frequencies and potentials science has yet to reproduce which would make him the only expert in this field of technology --- 100 years ago ;D.
Let's ask a question, What happens when a frequency of oscillation becomes unmeasurable? I mean Terrahertz frequencies at million volt potentials, for one this "field" would appear impolar or having no polarity relative to everything else, it would act unidirectionally like a "radiation" and move on matter with ease. This field because of its short period of oscillation would tend to vibrate matter, randomizing its atomic polarities---demagnetizing it, expelling all magnetism as an impolar field would. Nobody wants to ask the question, what happens when magnetism is expelled from a region of space? For one, this would constitute a changing magnetic field as it was expelled and when it collapsed back in on itself ( think anti-magnetic field the magnetic fields opposite), this field would STOP current flow dead in its tracks as there can be no magnetic component moving in the conductor, so the diamagnetic field can act like a switch. Keep in mind the magnetic field could be externally provided, like earths magnetic field? This field could act on diamagnetic copper conductors expelling magnetic fields as well as ferromagnetic cores.
Think about all the devices we see in this forum that can't be explained by science that could by the existence of a diamagnetic field. Are you so sure the magnetic field is what you think it is?

To expand on that last thought, a man named Victor Schauberger taught me a very important lesson, that is to always consider everything in its opposite sense as well. We see a field emminating from a current carrying conductor and call it a magnetic field, we can sense and measure this field. But what if this magnetic field was not "something" but a lack of something, nobody has considered that the oscillating tension (current) in the conductor could expel a field existing everywhere away from the conductor, NOT a field but a lack of a field around the conductor giving the illusion there is something there. How would you know? Is an air bubble in water something (air) OR a lack of something(water)? When we lose our biased polarized perception of things only then can we see what we may be missing.

Just some food for thought
Best Regards

« Last Edit: January 04, 2008, 01:52:38 AM by allcanadian »

Ren

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2008, 10:56:38 PM »
keep telling it how it is people. I have throughly enjoyed reading what has been said/taught so far. Its all still a little hard to grasp, I never did too well at science in school, but maybe thats a good thing....

MACEDONIA CD

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2008, 12:34:11 AM »
hi W,,,
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Super God

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2008, 04:00:18 AM »
You know this stuff should really go in the TESLA forum!  It's so unused nowadays! =/

innovation_station

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2008, 04:43:46 AM »
 :) ;) 8)

welcome to the first few steps down the rabbit hole how far do you want to go?!?!?!?!

i still see a problem in the pic i posted

lol!!



what is the problem?!?!?!?!

the inverter of course  ;) it is solid state based    boohoo    how ever i do have a solution 4 this

infact i discovered this a long time ago

lol

ruin2ne!?!

and it will be comming up in the near future  ;)

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how ever until then ~~this little light of mine im a let it shine~~ let it shine~~

step into  the light for the light will not lead you astray  8)

he has the whole world in His hands

some  :)COLECTIVE SOUL 4 U ALL  :)                   :) HEAVEN LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE DOWN  :)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CzYuQilPPG0


we were never alone  :) ;) 8)
« Last Edit: January 04, 2008, 08:57:13 PM by innovation_station »

HopeForHumanity

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2008, 10:42:26 PM »
LOL! Those are some sexy coil pics you got there!  :D

Ren

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #36 on: January 05, 2008, 12:07:44 AM »
Nice innovation. Glad to seem some photos of a build! I would like to turn my hand at replicating a tesla patent. I find I learn much more by building than by theorizing, if that makes sense. I have been told to look at his method for producing ozone, it looks like a fairly simple piece. I'm wondering if anyone has some insights or suggestions? I have pulled apart a microwave and have various components such as a high voltage capacitor and a small fan. Can the drawing in the patent be taken @ face value? How important is it for the coils to be proportional to one another. I have read alot about frequencies and oscillations, and I have come to believe that it is very important that the primary and secondary be related to each other via a certain parameter?

Maybe I just need to dig deeper.

hansvonlieven

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #37 on: January 05, 2008, 12:16:01 AM »
From memory Ren,

Tesla was most insistent tat the MASS of the copper in the primary and secondary coils was the critical component for resonance to be established. not the length, the diameter of the wire or even the number of windings.

I am talking here about resonance only.

Hans von Lieven

innovation_station

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #38 on: January 05, 2008, 12:45:47 AM »
 8)

1 simple mass to mass tuned coil

131"2" 22 ga  86 g and i think it was 15.4' of 14 ga romex = 86 g

 ;D

oh yea 4" pvc


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Ren

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #39 on: January 05, 2008, 12:52:36 AM »
So to break it down for the lamens (a.k.a me :D) gauge and length are irrelavant. The weight of the primary must equal the weight of the secondary? As in put it on the kitchen scales? lol. It cant be that easy... can it? Mass does mean substance/weight/fatness etc right? ;D


Edit: ok, IST's post wasnt that long before. I undie stand now :P

What Tesla describes (in my brain anyway) is a bifilar coil, where primary and secondary are of equal weight, but the primary is much thicker and this a better conductor(right word?), has less resistance?

Power is pulsed through this primary wire and the secondary (which is much higher in resistance? Conducts less amps?) collects the collapse and stores in a capacitor/or in the case of the ozone patent onto separate conductive plates in which air passes through.

Is the power that is pulsed through the primary equal to that which is recovered from the secondary, but simply structured differently (as is a high potential)?


Thanks guys (hans + inno)
« Last Edit: January 05, 2008, 01:21:51 AM by Ren »

Ren

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #40 on: January 05, 2008, 02:27:22 AM »
Inno, is there any significance/benefit to wrapping your primary in a horizontal layer and then your secondary around it toridal style/vertically? Is it just to suit your current application, or is it suitable for all types of replication? Does it produce superior results? Or is it just plain cool looking and easy to manage 8)

Oh and I assume that the weight of the primary took into account the weight of the insulation?

innovation_station

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #41 on: January 05, 2008, 02:54:35 AM »
the insulation was not figured in on the weight i simply weighed 1' of stripped romex and did the math as to how many feet i needed

to match the weight of the other

as to wrapping 90 deg coupling yes i would think there are  big differences as to standard methods

this would be a higher efficiency transformer wound this way opposed to parallel coupling

am i wrong?

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Ren

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #42 on: January 05, 2008, 03:01:25 AM »
Ok. So your primary  actually has less mass than your secondary in copper?

I dont know alot about the transformer...yet :). But I cant see that particular style of wrapping being any worse. Pulse it and lets see!

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #43 on: January 05, 2008, 03:09:30 AM »
 8)

the only difference in weight  between the primary and secondary is the weight of the varnish in the control wind other than that tinny difference they weigh the exact same  copper to copper  ;)

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i have not played this coil yet at all

some more music 4u read the signs  :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54
« Last Edit: January 05, 2008, 03:35:46 AM by innovation_station »

Ren

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Re: Tell The TRUTH
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2008, 03:39:49 AM »
Ahhh sorry, I just re-read your post, 1 inch of stripped (not 1 inch strip)  :D Sorry for the confusion. Will watch the vid when I get home from work, damn surf control!