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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 4342390 times)

onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #855 on: May 12, 2011, 01:35:34 AM »
It is not the Government that owns all the Oil, they just tax it., Oil is owned mostly in the private sector. this private sector is what you need to be concerned about.

ad a bit of paranoia and pinch of schizophrenia and you got a good conspirator.

I have a cousin in the C.I.A and they (the foundation) could really give a crap about this site, nor any invention and or theory on this site. unless you are a criminal of course.

but hey, if you like living a mentally chaotic life then go right ahead. please indulge.

Jerry 8) 

Magluvin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #856 on: May 12, 2011, 01:50:12 AM »
It is not the Government that owns all the Oil, they just tax it., Oil is owned mostly in the private sector. this private sector is what you need to be concerned about.

ad a bit of paranoia and pinch of schizophrenia and you got a good conspirator.

I have a cousin in the C.I.A and they (the foundation) could really give a crap about this site, nor any invention and or theory on this site. unless you are a criminal of course.

but hey, if you like living a mentally chaotic life then go right ahead. please indulge.

Jerry 8)

Maybe not the CIA, but I have read the NSA is involved. I read that they intervened in how 3 phase motors are made as some out there were modifying them for ou. Rotoverter? And involved with how some transformers are made.

As for Govt and tax, you betcha.  I was told today of a town that many of the people there had windmills and eventually they are being taxed for each one, as revenues were reduced because of it.
And now I have also heard of plans to add tax to gas by miles used, and its added at the pump.  I dont recall how, some device, but will tell when I speak to him again.

Mags

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #857 on: May 12, 2011, 02:00:58 AM »
It is not the Government that owns all the Oil, they just tax it., Oil is owned mostly in the private sector. this private sector is what you need to be concerned about.

ad a bit of paranoia and pinch of schizophrenia and you got a good conspirator.

I have a cousin in the C.I.A and they (the foundation) could really give a crap about this site, nor any invention and or theory on this site. unless you are a criminal of course.

but hey, if you like living a mentally chaotic life then go right ahead. please indulge.

Jerry 8)

So it's a conspiracy theory that the Bushes had stocks in Harken Energy
and Cheney and Rumsfeld have any connection with Halliburton ...

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #858 on: May 12, 2011, 02:04:13 AM »
Hi Stefan,

I am only checking with a single coil/core - trying everything I have available.

My rpms can be changed as I am drving the rotor with a DC motor using a PWM.

I am not concerned yet with the drive side of things.

Wanting to prove the generator side of the device first.

Kindest Regards, Penno


onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #859 on: May 12, 2011, 02:12:09 AM »
So it's a conspiracy theory that Cheney and Rumsfeld have any connection with Halliburton ...

Hi Xeno.

I'll let you answer that for yourself for now, I never followed it so I know nothing about it, I would however like to see you post some news about it so that I could make a discussion based upon your suspicion. could you do that for me please?

the human race will always have wolves in the sheep. in fact, Humans are better at being a wolf than the wolf itself. meaning we have more sheep to be slaughtered than the wolf itself. Humans are the only known perfect predator. not perfect exactly but struggling to be is more the phrase.

so yes, I do agree that a deal of suspicion is adequate so long as there is hard facts and not mere speculation conjured by paranoid schizophrenic people.

trust is the 'center' of all emotions, hell, I even developed this into my A.I bot. all emotions branch out from trust.

trust is thee prime emotion.

Jerry 8)
« Last Edit: May 12, 2011, 04:52:16 AM by onthecuttingedge2010 »

Magluvin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #860 on: May 12, 2011, 02:16:19 AM »
Hi Stefan,

I am only checking with a single coil/core - trying everything I have available.

My rpms can be changed as I am drving the rotor with a DC motor using a PWM.

I am not concerned yet with the drive side of things.

Wanting to prove the generator side of the device first.

Kindest Regards, Penno

Its very possible that the top and bottom coil/bias mags need to be complete in the magnetic circuit. I would at least complete a bottom and top set for testing. It may make a difference. 
One alternate way i was thinking of was just to have the rotor mags aim outwards from the rotor and pickup coils on the perimeter aiming in, but then I reconsidered due to what I stated in my first sentence above.

Mags

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #861 on: May 12, 2011, 02:17:36 AM »
FYI. Today I got my magnets N42 7/8" x 1/2" x 20.20mm  Strong NdFeB Neodymium Disk Magnetsand my Ferrite powder to make my own ferrite rods.

Fausto.

onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #862 on: May 12, 2011, 02:41:38 AM »
So it's a conspiracy theory that the Bushes had stocks in Harken Energy
and Cheney and Rumsfeld have any connection with Halliburton ...

Hi xeno.

please refer to post #858 as I had posted.

Jerry 8)
« Last Edit: May 12, 2011, 03:05:36 AM by onthecuttingedge2010 »

onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #863 on: May 12, 2011, 03:04:36 AM »
Maybe not the CIA, but I have read the NSA is involved. I read that they intervened in how 3 phase motors are made as some out there were modifying them for ou. Rotoverter? And involved with how some transformers are made.

As for Govt and tax, you betcha.  I was told today of a town that many of the people there had windmills and eventually they are being taxed for each one, as revenues were reduced because of it.
And now I have also heard of plans to add tax to gas by miles used, and its added at the pump.  I dont recall how, some device, but will tell when I speak to him again.

Mags
I am not fluent with the N.S.A but I believe that they (the foundation) would not be so different than the C.I.A, I just have no relatives in the N.S.A to resolve this discussion. that I know of for certain. anyways.

Jerry 8)

plengo

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #864 on: May 12, 2011, 03:11:19 AM »
Hi all,

Has anyone had any joy with coils/core ?

No matter what I try, I cannot seem to get anywhere near the 12 or so volts on a single coil.

I have tried many arrangements.

Any suggetions are welcome

Kind Regards, Penno

I tried using the coil from a relay from RadioShack (http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheets2/44/449350_1.pdf) and easily will generate 12 or more volts by spinning a wheel with magnets at a mere 100rpm.

Fausto.

plengo

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #865 on: May 12, 2011, 03:31:54 AM »
I thought about an idea how this could work.

Take the rotor Romero did and its coils. There is one less magnet than coil. Cogging is there. Imagine now that we balance things so that cogging is even in every step, magnet approaching coil and passing by with net energy equal 0.

Now, if you spin the rotor fast enough it will somehow spin for a long time with zero energy loss caused by the cogging and only resistance losses. The energy necessary to pass the cogging is gained back as soon as it pass the coil, if repulsion is used as the mechanism. Such as Romero's design.

So far nothing new, no OU. Now, connect the coils to loads, such as 10 ohms resistors and again, balance the wheel by using distance of the magnets and coils and other ways so that cogging is again there but net zero with one difference now, we have a load and heat is created on the resistors. No OU yet, only more losses because of Lenz-laws.

Now, let's imagine that if the closed path of the whole wheel is balanced, as the rotor spins we generate electricity by the coils and the counter-EMF that increases the resistance of the cogging therefore causing greater losses.

How to fix that, imagine that if the closed magnetic path is very balanced in every step of the magnets passing by the coils will always have equal forces on all the points (magnets and coils) but what would happen if in one point we either loose some of the balance via making a magnet flux less intense, would not that cause the rotor to spin one revolution and cog at that unbalanced point?

Would be possible to now unbalance the opposing magnet/coil and restore the current magnet/coil balance causing the rotor to spin again with zero net loss/gain only paying for the unbalancing energy cost?

Would be possible to use the loads on the coils to be elements that cause that unbalance while using the energy generated when the rotor spins because the unbalance magnetic closed path flux?

I remember Romero saying that was very important to tune the motor with the proper load already connected so that the balancing would be specific to that load?

It sounds to me that one could create a very balanced closed path magnetic flux rotor where the coils are the pulsating unbalancing actors for causing the rotor to spin indefinitely only paying for the unbalancing cost which is NOT proportional to the strength of the rotation of the rotor. The rotor will spin proportional to the total magnetic energy in place, stronger magnets stronger spins and therefore more energy generated and less energy necessary to cause unbalance.

Please, shoot my idea.

Fausto.

pese

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #866 on: May 12, 2011, 03:40:50 AM »
scaled up ?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnISxcx1nI&feature=player_profilepage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdCSbLdKVJw&feature=player_profilepage

Videos,
Say nothing
Show nothing
only confusing tangle wire
not comprehensible
Meters ads.

NONSENSE!

(RomeroUK  YTubes are better to "over-view"

Pese

German: see also http://overunity.de 

Link collection of alternative energies and more:
german/englisch, simply htm collected
unprofessional, non-business! kists:
http://alt-nrg.de/pppp
« Last Edit: May 12, 2011, 04:17:57 AM by pese »

onthecuttingedge2010

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #867 on: May 12, 2011, 03:42:08 AM »
I thought about an idea how this could work.

Take the rotor Romero did and its coils. There is one less magnet than coil. Cogging is there. Imagine now that we balance things so that cogging is even in every step, magnet approaching coil and passing by with net energy equal 0.

Now, if you spin the rotor fast enough it will somehow spin for a long time with zero energy loss caused by the cogging and only resistance losses. The energy necessary to pass the cogging is gained back as soon as it pass the coil, if repulsion is used as the mechanism. Such as Romero's design.

So far nothing new, no OU. Now, connect the coils to loads, such as 10 ohms resistors and again, balance the wheel by using distance of the magnets and coils and other ways so that cogging is again there but net zero with one difference now, we have a load and heat is created on the resistors. No OU yet, only more losses because of Lenz-laws.

Now, let's imagine that if the closed path of the whole wheel is balanced, as the rotor spins we generate electricity by the coils and the counter-EMF that increases the resistance of the cogging therefore causing greater losses.

How to fix that, imagine that if the closed magnetic path is very balanced in every step of the magnets passing by the coils will always have equal forces on all the points (magnets and coils) but what would happen if in one point we either loose some of the balance via making a magnet flux less intense, would not that cause the rotor to spin one revolution and cog at that unbalanced point?

Would be possible to now unbalance the opposing magnet/coil and restore the current magnet/coil balance causing the rotor to spin again with zero net loss/gain only paying for the unbalancing energy cost?

Would be possible to use the loads on the coils to be elements that cause that unbalance while using the energy generated when the rotor spins because the unbalance magnetic closed path flux?

I remember Romero saying that was very important to tune the motor with the proper load already connected so that the balancing would be specific to that load?

It sounds to me that one could create a very balanced closed path magnetic flux rotor where the coils are the pulsating unbalancing actors for causing the rotor to spin indefinitely only paying for the unbalancing cost which is NOT proportional to the strength of the rotation of the rotor. The rotor will spin proportional to the total magnetic energy in place, stronger magnets stronger spins and therefore more energy generated and less energy necessary to cause unbalance.

Please, shoot my idea.

Fausto.

simply, you are not using 'enough' energy to gain energy. in fact, nobody on this site is using enough energy to gain energy 'if' you can catch my previous drift.

Just being myself.
Jerry 8)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #868 on: May 12, 2011, 04:31:57 AM »
If you guys want to take your privacy seriously, what I'm reading so far won't cut it. See this:

http://cryptogon.com/?p=624

High-Traffic Colluding Tor Routers in Washington, D.C., and the Ugly Truth About Online Anonymity


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #869 on: May 12, 2011, 04:45:47 AM »
How to safely release your OU device and get it out to thousands of people and dozens of web sites: 

first you buy a laptop or netbook with WiFi.  pay cash for it and make sure you can't be traced to it in any way.  computers had unique ID's which can be traced online in some cases.  get one off craigslist or similar.  maybe even have a friend pick it up for you.  we're talking paranoid level V here.  but it will be peace of mind. 

next you totally document how to build and tune your device down to the most minute detail so any one who can read would be able to replicate it.  have a complete parts source list and multiple places to get thing would be best. 

get a wifi extender antenna or one of several devices to give you a little more range.  if you know about wifi war-driving than i don't need to say much more but that will not be necessary unless you choose to try it that way.  just pick a nice rainy day if possible and take a drive an hour or two from where you live.  add more time as needed for the truly paranoid.  you have already picked a spot in another city that has free Wifi like a starbucks, mcdonalds or coffee shop or whatever.  you can find free wifi hot spots on the internet.  use a proxy when searching for them. 

  you've already got your complete document in pdf ready to upload.  you may even have a keystroke recorder or similar program that once you start it will fire off your document to many sites and forums.  done right it could take only a minute or two.  but if you are not into keystroke recorders than just have it all planned out ahead where you are uploading and posting.  email people also like stefan and others you know will gladly share it.  at the most you should be able to do all this from your car in 10 minutes.  you have your wifi extender so you don't even need to go in the place.  many places you would not even need an extender as i've used many wifi hot spots from out in the parking lot. 

you've done it!  the world will have free energy!!!!!   if you think you want to include something unique in a separate document so you could claim your fame some day then make a separate document with a brief encrypted message and use something like AES.  Then take that document and encrypt it with Triple Blowfish or some other uncrackable encryption.  Only you will know the message so some day if you choose you release the passwords (very long ones) and the world will know who to thank.  by then big oil and big energy are out of business largely except for lubricating the machines every one now has thanks to you !
   
  if anyone would like to add any improvements to this plan fire away as this is just off the top of my head.