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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3510545 times)

Offline neptune

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #795 on: May 11, 2011, 05:20:39 PM »
@lumen . In my opinion this device can not be patented as it has already been open sourced and the details published .

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #795 on: May 11, 2011, 05:20:39 PM »

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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #796 on: May 11, 2011, 05:37:42 PM »
Sterlinga is the owner of a quite influencial and informative website on new energy technology.
http://peswiki.com
Thats why I am worried about his post

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #797 on: May 11, 2011, 05:43:40 PM »
In my opinion this device can not be patented as it has already been open sourced and the details published .

I wish that were true, but just because you show your device and how it works in public does not mean you forfeit your property or intellectual rights. Unless he makes claim that he gives this to the people the forum only works as proof as the actual inventor.

I'm not a Lawyer but I'm sure the money this would be worth could buy new laws!
(like the rest of them we have)


 

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #797 on: May 11, 2011, 05:43:40 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #798 on: May 11, 2011, 05:57:59 PM »
Earlier in the thread I posted a link to ferrite rods available from Farnell:

http://bg.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=1002386&Ntk=gensearch_001&Ntt=ferrite+rod&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial

http://www.ferroxcube.com/prod/assets/sfmatgra_frnt.pdf

Please someone advise if these are OK for the replication and what is the difference with those pulled from a PC PSU used by Romero.
I found a source for 9x0.10mm and 12x0.10mm Litz wire which I hope will do the job.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #799 on: May 11, 2011, 06:09:20 PM »
Earlier in the thread I posted a link to ferrite rods available from Farnell:

http://bg.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=1002386&Ntk=gensearch_001&Ntt=ferrite+rod&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial

http://www.ferroxcube.com/prod/assets/sfmatgra_frnt.pdf

Please someone advise if these are OK for the replication and what is the difference with those pulled from a PC PSU used by Romero.
I found a source for 9x0.10mm and 12x0.10mm Litz wire which I hope will do the job.

About the wire, just go with coils, that have about 5 Ohms DC resistance with 300 windings.

I wonder, if one could not just use loudspeaker lowpass or highpassfilter coils
on ferrite cores...
These are probably much easier to get preassembled.

I think the only tuning required is to get the magnetic flux to
switch back and forth inside the ferrite rods of the coils.

So I guess also a solid state design could be made.

We only have to fiqure out what needs the lowest
energy input to switch back and forth the magnetic flux
inside a ferrite rod core of a big coil
from 2 or more stator magnets
attached with small airgaps to the ferrite core.

Maybe something like 2 torroidal cores in series
180 degrees out of polarity as in the ORBO design
will do the trick as BackEMF or CounterEMF induction into them will just cancel out...??

Regards, Stefan.


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #799 on: May 11, 2011, 06:09:20 PM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #800 on: May 11, 2011, 06:13:10 PM »
By the way,
I found the complete name, adress and telephone numbers and a picture
of RomeroUK via a little Internet searching.

I tried to call him,
but he does not answer the phone.
Maybe he is still on work and not yet home.
I will try again this evening .

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #801 on: May 11, 2011, 06:22:39 PM »
It has been brought to my attention that this demonstration was a hoax.

Question, could the perpetrator be criminally charged?  Or would this be a civil matter?  What would be the charge?  Who would /could bring the charge?

If you know the answer, would you mind Cc'ing me to my email via sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com

We're working up a story for this for PESN and want to include that information to help deter any future hoaxes.

Thanks

I've been asked where I got that info.  It came from Romero himself in this message: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg285496#msg285496

As follows:

T H I S  W A S   A   B I G    F A K E,      S T O P  R E P L I C A T I N G
THIS IS MY LAST POST
World will be the same

SORRY!


Also, I got the following email from Romero:

From: RomeroUK
To: sterlingda...
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 8:37 AM
Subject: RomeroUK


Dear Mr Sterling,

 

I am sending this email after I saw your opinion on the forum.

First of all I do not have that device anymore, probably is destroyed, I have no idea and I don’t care anymore.

I have spent years in trying to do different things, replicating all sort of devices and spent lots of money for that.

This last week was a nightmare for me, you have no idea under what pressure I have been and how many people contacted me, warnings that I should keep quiet, people saying they run multimillion companies and want be to build for Africa,… and in the end, yesterday, I had a personal visit after leaving my day to day job.

I had the impression that I live in a free country but it was demonstrated that anything is possible, we will never move forward.

I am an IT guy and I thought that I have a good brain but now after that I even forgot simple passwords and things I use every day, this is how scared I am.

I have a family, kids and they are most important for me. I had a lot of problems home with my wife because this too, she never wanted me to publish any of my work, but I did, and it looks that I should have listen to her. Well, now I learned my lesson.

I have never asked anyone for money or invited them to do a copy of the device I built, I have only showed my results, no intention to harm anyone in any way.

All I want now is to enjoy the life I had before and forget about doing any more research, I don’t have the power to do that anymore.

I am not good for this kind of pressure, I already have hearth problems, it is not worth it.

I just hope that one day someone better than me will have the strength to go thru all this.

I have always stated that I have no intention to sell or do any public demonstrations, please check my posts on overunity forum.

 

This is the end I hope, I don’t want be contacted by any other people, I have no more info to share. All I had I posted free and it is better to be considered as not working.

 

Best Regards,

RomeroUK

 

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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #801 on: May 11, 2011, 06:22:39 PM »
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Offline yssuraxu_697

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #802 on: May 11, 2011, 06:29:43 PM »
Earlier in the thread I posted a link to ferrite rods available from Farnell:

I would pick these:

FERRITE, ROD, 25X10MM
Material: 4B1

Looking at the specs it very good in terms of Eddy currents.
Saturation is low like it is always with ferrites. But if romerouk succeeded with "random" ferrite I guess these will do at least as good, just dont molest them with too powerful magnets and small airgap.

In any case much better than "cat in the bag" from PSUs. Maybe I'll order these too if no luck with Sendust etc.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #803 on: May 11, 2011, 06:29:46 PM »
Ãœbersetzung von Deutsch nach Englisch

Which way do I take to regulate the Muller generator?

The generator produces more power after this high
Speed ​​is reached. An increase in output voltage (and power) will rotate the drive motor even faster, so this speed increase dangerous.

DC works with a regulation loss (mon. 10% and is an electronic device that will eventually be corrupted.


A simple rule is mechanically possible by the level of the coils.
(input or output, or both, of the magnetic disk
further away, as soon as this is spinning faster.
(Change in distance coils to spinning magnets)

In this way, it's easy to mechanically possible
the output voltage down, or the
Putting the drive motor speed, because the drive coil can be further from the magnet.

GOOGLE translating have help me. German source here:

POSSIBLY (?) it is an easy way to minimize some problems


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Welchen Weg nehme ich zum regulieren des Muller Generator ?

Der Generator erzeugt mehr Power, nachdem dieser hohe
Geschwindigkeit erreicht. Ein Ansteigen der Ausgangsspannung (und leistung) wird den Antriebsmotor noch schneller drehen lassen, sodass sich diese Geschwindigkeit gefährlich erhöht.

Eine DC Regulierung arbeitet mit Verlust  (mon. 10% und ist ein elektronisches device, das irgendwann fehlerhaft sein wird.


Eine EINFACHE REGELUNG, ist mechanisch möglich, indem man die Ebene die Spulen.
(Input oder Output, oder Beide, von der Magnetplatte
weiter entfernt, sobald diese sich schneller dreht.
(Change in distance coils to spinning magnets)

Auf diese Art ist es ganz einfach, mechanisch, möglich
die Ausgangsspannung down, oder die
Drehzahl des Antriebsmotors herunterzunehmen, weil die Antrieb-Spulen, weiter vom Magnet entfernt werden können.
 

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #803 on: May 11, 2011, 06:29:46 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #804 on: May 11, 2011, 06:30:55 PM »
Here are a few useful ferrite rods I found on Ebay,
follow this link:


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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #805 on: May 11, 2011, 06:36:46 PM »
I've been asked where I got that info.  It came from Romero himself in this message: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg285496#msg285496

As follows:

Also, I got the following email from Romero:

From: RomeroUK   [snip]

Thanks for responding, Sterling.  RomeroUK sounds sincere to me, but very frightened.  Very.


"yesterday, I had a personal visit after leaving my day to day job.

I had the impression that I live in a free country but it was demonstrated that anything is possible, we will never move forward.

I am an IT guy and I thought that I have a good brain but now after that I even forgot simple passwords and things I use every day, this is how scared I am.

I have a family, kids and they are most important for me. I had a lot of problems home with my wife because this too, she never wanted me to publish any of my work, but I did, and it looks that I should have listen to her. Well, now I learned my lesson."


I think this is why he said "fake" in his final parting post, don't you?  because he had a visit to his home and is now intimidated and frightened?  We are inventors, engineers -- not used to intimidation at our homes.

This is "coerced" testimony, not admissible as hard evidence.
But if you have REAL evidence that the device is a fake, I'd like to hear it.

Meanwhile, if you publish on your website that it is a fake without such firm evidence -- that would be unfair, my friend.  Also, pls note that replications  will come forth.  I'm hoping you will wait and see what the replications bring.

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Offline neptune

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #806 on: May 11, 2011, 06:51:59 PM »
@pese .I can see many ways to regulate this device . One way would be to use a suitable light bulb in series with the motor feed .I believe the resistance of a lightbulb increases with temperature , so it would regulate the motor current . A FUSE would also help in the motor circuit . Another simple way for home builders is a centrifugal governor [like steam engine] to switch motor on and off . Pese , I would like to ask you if you think this device works .
       The information from Stirlinga is very revealing . Saying that a thing should be considered as non working, is not the same thing as saying it does not work . Looks like the guy got scared off and maybe bought as well . Patenting will not stop us "rolling our own".Also a quote from Romerouk in his email to stirling ." I only showed my results ." We all saw what he showed . He showed a working machine .Note that he said this AFTER his claim it was a fake .

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #807 on: May 11, 2011, 07:09:02 PM »
Mylo, is that you?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #808 on: May 11, 2011, 07:11:16 PM »
Mylo, is that you?

MyLow is a low class cockroach. He does not know Electronics. He only knows bar magnets and fishing lines. Oh, some bird species too...

cheers
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #809 on: May 11, 2011, 07:11:44 PM »
@pese .I can see many ways to regulate this device . One war would be to use a suitable light bulb in series with the motor feed .I believe the resistance of a lightbulb increases with temperature , so it would regulate the motor current . A FUSE would also help in the motor circuit . Another simple way for home builders is a centrifugal governor [like steam engine] to switch motor on and off . Pese , I would like to ask you if you think this device works .
       The information from Stirlinga is very revealing . Saying that a thing should be considered as non working, is not the same thing as saying it does not work . Looks like the guy got scared off and maybe bought as well . Patenting will not stop uws "rolling our own".
Yes neptune. Look in my Profil  (=sended messages)

2 or 3 days behind i have even given this idea to take an 12V 1 Amo (12W bulb in serie to the input (=motor).  Als let the knowledhe for the negative Temp Coeffizient,, and some more ...

No ONE have given attention to THIS easy way.

Also this "mechanocal way, ist better and more effective to use, can be work without steps "slightly" fine tuning...

tks for your response

Pese

P.S.

I will give more attention for this development now, BECAUSE,
if some "free energy people" ist working withh fully efforts for NO-SAYING !
Than he can be interested (for himself) to modify this item. (!?)

I am sorry if romeruk and others are coming (or feeling) under pressure.  IT is better to OPEN ALL, so no Pressure can be follow.
Gustav Pese

P.S.
Take replications, if not working, try another way! Most details are unknow.
As the direction /clock CW CCW of winding the coils enz) also little details can change that an device work or not ...

 

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