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Offline powercat

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #765 on: May 11, 2011, 02:50:09 PM »
Hi David70,

Would you mind taking a close-up picture of the opened converter, please?
Would like to see it, not because I do not believe you but to see how big heat sink is involved (I suppose it is a switch-mode converter).
(You can attach max file individual size of 500kB here, it is more than enough for a closeup, I think.)

Thanks,  Gyula

Hi Gyula and David70
it's okay I can do it now, I have one to,  I just need to get past the security screws ???
why would you put security screws on a DC converter  >:(

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #765 on: May 11, 2011, 02:50:09 PM »

Offline nul-points

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #766 on: May 11, 2011, 02:54:52 PM »
I was reading all posts for yesterday and I am finding this one strange, bad ideea what?
I am looking before this post and I can see Baroutologos post talking nice there, nothing bad, the post is edited too, maybe there was something before and removed after.
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hi David

Romero & Baroutologos were in regular contact on Romero's forum (apparently now pulled) - so maybe Romero was replying to something which Baroutologos had mentioned via another channel?

just an idea

[EDIT - apologies - just seen that my post co-incided with Chef's!]

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #767 on: May 11, 2011, 02:57:47 PM »
Ok powercat and David70, thanks.

David70,

I can recall what you noticed because I saw the unedited text from Baroutologus.  He included the link to RomeroUK's own forum and at that time point Romero had already too many mails to handle so this is why Romero said it was a bad idea. Then Baroutologus editied out the link in his post.

Gyula

I just noticed Chef also answered this, ok.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #767 on: May 11, 2011, 02:57:47 PM »
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Offline powercat

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #768 on: May 11, 2011, 03:05:35 PM »
Okay for those who want to look inside Pandora's box  ;D  I mean the DC to DC converter.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #769 on: May 11, 2011, 03:13:08 PM »
Dear powercat,

Thank you, though this is not the exact type Romero used I do believe his type is very similar inside because of the mechanical sizes. His type was adjustable from 1.5V to up 12V, your type is designed for upconverting, for running laptops for instance from the car battery.

rgds,  Gyula

EDIT here is the link I gave to Romero to buy the converter for looping:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/universal-3a-dc-power-supply-228639   

I suggested this to him here
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg284263#msg284263  and Romero answered
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg284270#msg284270

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #769 on: May 11, 2011, 03:13:08 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #770 on: May 11, 2011, 03:14:17 PM »
powercat
I think yours is another model going to 24volts, the one I bought today is going upto 12volts

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« Reply #771 on: May 11, 2011, 03:28:08 PM »
It has been brought to my attention that this demonstration was a hoax.

Question, could the perpetrator be criminally charged?  Or would this be a civil matter?  What would be the charge?  Who would /could bring the charge?

If you know the answer, would you mind Cc'ing me to my email via sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com

We're working up a story for this for PESN and want to include that information to help deter any future hoaxes.

Thanks

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Offline powercat

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #772 on: May 11, 2011, 03:31:55 PM »
Sorry about the size issue, I always get bigger than I need,
I learned a long time ago that inverters and converters are much more efficient when they don't get hot and stressed out.
My mains inverter is 1000 W but I never draw more than 300 W, the inverter only gets warm and the fan never comes on, since I have been doing this my batteries last much longer ;D
(I live on solar power most of the time)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #773 on: May 11, 2011, 03:35:36 PM »
There is no proof this is a hoax. Do you have proof?

For civil claim there must be a breach of contract. Did you have a performance contract with him?

For criminal claim  there must be an injured party. Are you injured or suffered harm?

Stop wasting people time with this hoax stuff. Its real enough to be replicated then you can see for you self. All the information was given freely and open source. Take it or leave it.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #774 on: May 11, 2011, 03:38:11 PM »
Wouldn't you have to prove it was a hoax or at least have some evidence it was a hoax?  Other than some wild speculations on this thread do you have any real evidence this was a hoax?  I think you are wasting your time.

It has been brought to my attention that this demonstration was a hoax.

Question, could the perpetrator be criminally charged?  Or would this be a civil matter?  What would be the charge?  Who would /could bring the charge?

If you know the answer, would you mind Cc'ing me to my email via sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com

We're working up a story for this for PESN and want to include that information to help deter any future hoaxes.

Thanks

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #775 on: May 11, 2011, 03:47:56 PM »
according to Mr. Alan we shall all be all have criminal charges. At one point in time many people posted their results and findings, good or bad. No one is forced to replicate or do anything.
Muller and others had lots of people replycating their devices, and never succeeded, that means criminal penalties against them?
Can we force someone to disclose all findings? Yes/No ?
This way we will better stop posting anything before someone takes this ideea seriously.
Personally I tought that Mr Alan is for progress and freedom not against it.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #775 on: May 11, 2011, 03:47:56 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #776 on: May 11, 2011, 03:55:23 PM »
Companies and corporation fight each other to hire the TALENT that are the experts in the fields of intelect and technology that they offer for sale in their products and services.  So an entity that wished to capitalize on Romerouk's find would not want to purchase the device.  They would want to hire HIM.  It is through his expertise that they would have the best chance to be first to market with devices that utilize the technology he has harnessed.

If you assume also that Romerouk is the upstanding fellow he appears to be, working with such a company would be the fastest way to HELP the people that need the benefits of this technology.  Helping us "nutters" to have personal generators on our workbenches is a nice validation, but only a delay in getting this into products that can help the world.  So by joining a reputable company he could get financial security and further his desires to pursue inventing and propagating his visions.  Who wouldn't jump on that?

I hope the reality is more like this scenario, or that he has just stepped off the stage for now for his own peace of mind.  He has definitely given enough information to the public to ensure it is not lost.  So no "buyout" scenarios with intentions to suppress makes sense.

Now, back to work, all of you.  The replicators have my admiration and gratitude.  Please post everything you learn, including the failures.

Thanks,

M.

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Re: Criminal penalties for perpetrator?
« Reply #777 on: May 11, 2011, 04:01:31 PM »
It has been brought to my attention that this demonstration was a hoax.

Question, could the perpetrator be criminally charged?  Or would this be a civil matter?  What would be the charge?  Who would /could bring the charge?

If you know the answer, would you mind Cc'ing me to my email via sterlingda {at} pureenergysystems.com

We're working up a story for this for PESN and want to include that information to help deter any future hoaxes.

Thanks

Sterlinga, don't rush with your conclusions this is a hoax.
It's not clear what happened. Hold your horses for a while.
It could be RomeroUK was put under pressure to declare this is a fake.
Replicators here have sufficient data to replicate.
A few weeks from now will clear up the fog on this probably.

b.t.w. you made a misspelling on your e-mail address

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #778 on: May 11, 2011, 04:11:57 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #779 on: May 11, 2011, 04:16:48 PM »
Companies and corporation fight each other to hire the TALENT that are the experts in the fields of intelect and technology that they offer for sale in their products and services.  So an entity that wished to capitalize on Romerouk's find would not want to purchase the device.  They would want to hire HIM.  It is through his expertise that they would have the best chance to be first to market with devices that utilize the technology he has harnessed.

If you assume also that Romerouk is the upstanding fellow he appears to be, working with such a company would be the fastest way to HELP the people that need the benefits of this technology.  Helping us "nutters" to have personal generators on our workbenches is a nice validation, but only a delay in getting this into products that can help the world.  So by joining a reputable company he could get financial security and further his desires to pursue inventing and propagating his visions.  Who wouldn't jump on that?

I hope the reality is more like this scenario, or that he has just stepped off the stage for now for his own peace of mind.  He has definitely given enough information to the public to ensure it is not lost.  So no "buyout" scenarios with intentions to suppress makes sense.

Now, back to work, all of you.  The replicators have my admiration and gratitude.  Please post everything you learn, including the failures.

Thanks,

M.

Can u give an example of one free energy device that has gotten this financial security. I can give up to 10 that have been surpressed thru this model u r proposing.

 

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