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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3513746 times)

Offline keykhin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #570 on: May 10, 2011, 07:40:10 AM »
Hi there, this is my first post on this site and I want to suggest a better schematic for romerouk muller dynamo driving coils.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #571 on: May 10, 2011, 08:25:29 AM »
Congrats for everyone and mostly RomeroUK for the amazing development of the generator.
At this point a bit sceptic( I know nobody needs sceptics ). As i read on muller generator site : A generator converts mechanical energy into electricity. Muller generator removed most of the energy conversion losses making it close to a 1:1 ratio. This is awesome as is. In case romerouk managed to get this up to a 1:0.99999999999.... ratio then the wheel storing the initial inertia would make it run for a very long duration. => The bigger your wheel, the better results you will get with or without capacitors/dead batteries/other components that can store energy.
In the videos seen on youtube, the lightbulb (energy consumer) is only used for a short duration. I tried to read at least half of all the posts, at some point as i understood the "generator" was able to run for 3-5 hours with the ligthbulb. What happened after that ?

The simple fact that the device slowed down then speeded up when DC/DC voltage was adjusted keeps me breathless. Crossing fingers there is some hidden mistery in this device nobody noticed until now.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #572 on: May 10, 2011, 08:44:39 AM »
    The device structure is not complicated,
    And: RMR on the details have detailed instructions
    But: until now no one announced the successful replication.
    I very much hope that this is true miracle
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     However: it is indeed possible: in the DC-DC converters and large electrolytic capacitors inside the battery may be completely hidden.
 
    Very much like to be able to explain and clarify the evidence.
====================================================================
 I hope there is sufficient evidence that the RMR is the person I admire!

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #572 on: May 10, 2011, 08:44:39 AM »
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Offline Overunityguide

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #573 on: May 10, 2011, 09:13:33 AM »
This is exactly why I have asked the following question yesterday:

[ Is it possible to show some extra video footage where you switch the dc to dc converter gradually from 12V back to 4.5V and hereby showing the input voltage for the dc to dc converter (rectified output of the generator) for each single step?
I already know that you showed earlier that for the 12.05V out of the dc to dc converter the input was about 15 volts ]

Romerouk reaction to this was:

[ To all:
Don't ask me to do more videos, and measure every inch of it, this is taking all my time, instead of working and doing something productive. ]

My question for now is: what is the "something productive" he is talking about? He already managed to get a working OU setup right?!

So to come back to my earlier question:
If he is able to show that when he lowers the dc to dc converter output voltage will result in a lower input voltage into the dc to dc converter. (this in the closed loop configuration of course) Then he is able to show that this input voltage (as a result of lowering the rpm) is not always a steady 15 volts. (or read: that there is no hidden energy source)

Sorry for being rude, but I really hate it when people are giving false hope to others. And let them replicate their failures as a result of their own frustration. And spending time and money for nothing. So please answer my previous question and show that this is one is not another fake setup...

Kind Regards JdR.

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #574 on: May 10, 2011, 09:43:43 AM »
Hi overunityguide, you said,
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So please answer my previous question and show that this is one is not another fake setup...
please think about your questions before you ask them.
Can anyone in this universe show or prove that something is not real.

For example, 'I did not wash the dishes'. It is impossible to prove that you didn't do something, such as wash the dishes.
 It is only possible to prove or show that the dishes were washed, just as it is only possible to show or prove that the romerouk's device works.
Nobody in this universe can ever prove something does not work as that is contradictory and self defeating from the start. 

In other words you ask a question that can never be answered.
A more fruitful question would be, how does it work.
peace love light
tyson

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #574 on: May 10, 2011, 09:43:43 AM »
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Offline toranarod

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #575 on: May 10, 2011, 09:44:15 AM »
Hi there, this is my first post on this site and I want to suggest a better schematic for romerouk muller dynamo driving coils.

this is another variation this is better for complete isolation
 

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #576 on: May 10, 2011, 09:57:54 AM »
Hi overunityguide, you said,please think about your questions before you ask them.
Can anyone in this universe show or prove that something is not real.

For example, 'I did not wash the dishes'. It is impossible to prove that you didn't do something, such as wash the dishes.
 It is only possible to prove or show that the dishes were washed, just as it is only possible to show or prove that the romerouk's device works.
Nobody in this universe can ever prove something does not work as that is contradictory and self defeating from the start. 

In other words you ask a question that can never be answered.
A more fruitful question would be, how does it work.
peace love light
tyson

That's true for sure, but Romerouk can answer my simple question and in this way show that it's not likely that he has used a hidden energy source. “Only trying to investigate before I replicate.”

Wishing everyone the best, JdR

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #576 on: May 10, 2011, 09:57:54 AM »
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Offline nul-points

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #577 on: May 10, 2011, 09:59:49 AM »
@powerunlimited
@Aedini
@Overunityguide

...and anyone else who might be even thinking about making the same requests...


ok, let's get this straight guys

Romero has done ALL he needs to do at this point (much more in fact)

he's shown other people in forums like this, who have some understanding of the possibilities and behaviour of the various parts of his device (ie. people who are reasonably 'skilled in the art'), just one example of how to use magnets, coils, rotation and inertia to convert ambient energy into useful work

the 'unusual' thing at the moment (because this is NEW, as far as conventional science is concerned) is that he has made an ELECTRICAL system which only needs 12 Watts to convert 24W from the environment - ie., it has a CoP of 2

BUT - in general, a system which uses X Watts to convert >X W from the environment is NOT NEW - heat pumps regularly operate with CoP > 3

so - the way ahead is NOT to have Romero spend all his time making more and more complicated videos - you see, lots of small capacitors on a video are not better than one big capacitor because there MIGHT be lots of small batteries in them, etc - there is always ONE more objection

no, HERE is the way that science has progressed: --> not just by making a believable video (although the videos that Romero has made ARE helpful to those who will follow on) - no, science progresses by OTHER people taking the necessary details and REPLICATING it for themselves

the inventor cannot 'believe' for somebody else - each person has to 'believe' for themselves

when enough people of integrity & understanding 'believe' THEN science can be expanded to include the new knowledge

from what i've seen from the evidence which Romero has shown about this device - and from the evidence of other things he has made - and the obvious love he has for doing this work - and for the fact that Bill Muller and several other people have ALL shown the same achievement and the same integrity - i BELIEVE that what we've been shown here is all true

and now it is the job of people who have the same approach as Romero to duplicate what he has done and tell the people - who are sitting on their @rses in ivory towers, telling everybody that this is NOT POSSIBLE - to stop wasting our money spending billions of dollars/pounds/euros etc, just to discover 'how many angels can dance on the tip of a needle'

THEY are getting paid for US to do THEIR work!


if you didn't bother trying to read & think about everything i just said above, then the short answer is:

Romero will NOT be making any more videos JUST TO DISPROVE A FAKE


if you can't be bothered - or don't have the skills or resources - to make a replication attempt, then you will just have to be patient and watch as many others repeat what Romero has done
(while you're waiting, why not read carefully through the earlier 576 posts, like most of the rest of us have done, and watch Romero's 3 'Muller Dynamo' videos to get at least some idea of his integrity, achievement and dedication - not to mention the personal pressures on his family and on him)


the 'writing is on the wall' for the 2nd so-called Law of Thermodynamics

and was it our fantastically clever and knowledgeable 'scientists' who discovered this for humanity and opened the door to a new era of energy independence?

no, it was a few members of the public working on their kitchen and garden tables

SHAME on the scientific community! 


...sorry, did someone mention something about Romero making some MORE videos?  ;)


have a nice day
np

[Edited - to add and clarify the rant a bit :)]
[2nd Edit to remove Tudi from the reply list, with apologies]


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« Last Edit: May 10, 2011, 01:23:09 PM by nul-points »

Offline lanenal

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #578 on: May 10, 2011, 10:32:04 AM »
...

the inventor cannot 'believe' for somebody else - each person has to 'believe' for themselves

when enough people of integrity & understanding 'believe' THEN science can be expanded to include the new knowledge

...


I love what you have said! There is so much truth in it.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #578 on: May 10, 2011, 10:32:04 AM »
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Offline Brother22

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #579 on: May 10, 2011, 11:33:15 AM »
Another simple, but very well working hall-driver would be this one

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #580 on: May 10, 2011, 12:05:42 PM »
Another variant of bridge rectifier by Jonny   from  JT a

The efficient rectifier circuit spins the motor on less input to the slayer circuit than a bridge rectifier made from 4148 diodes but the single transistor rectifier will spin the motor on the least input to the slayer exciter.
 If you try the efficient rectifier circuit.Make sure you use two 4148 diodes and one 5408 diodes.I have uploaded the circuit diagrams to my previous post for easier reference.Cheers.Jonny


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« Reply #580 on: May 10, 2011, 12:05:42 PM »
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Offline nul-points

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #581 on: May 10, 2011, 12:12:32 PM »
I love what you have said! There is so much truth in it.

thanks lanenal

apologies for the rant, everyone

maybe we get back to our replication attempts now

Offline Tudi

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #582 on: May 10, 2011, 12:33:03 PM »
@nul-points thanks for showing everyones opinion. I tried to NOT divert the discussion in the wrong way. That is why i tried to write in bold my point. I'm trying to extract this new theory you are talking about, the ambiant energy that is absorbed. I could not find any post about speculations in what form does this ambiant energy comes from ( i know every second topic is about vacum and null point energy, but there is no vacum here to create null-point energy). Ofc as this theory is intended to be new, i do not expect that most speculation would even be close to the real reason. Things need to start at some point.
I could use your same speach for the sake of the development of the theoretical part. This even misunderstood theoretical part might help people improve their practical devices at some point.

Offline neptune

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #583 on: May 10, 2011, 12:49:43 PM »
@toranarod . Hi there . I believe you are in the process of coil winding . You could help us all here . Can you tell us exactly what wire you are using [ off the shelf multistrand or roll your own ] .The most vital thing you can do is to weigh an empty bobbin  and a wound bobbin and thus tell us the weight of wire per coil . This will be important for people buying wire .
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #584 on: May 10, 2011, 01:05:35 PM »
I was asked this in an email today. I thought it was very interesting.
just an observation. 
 
Notice how close this technology is to the Adams and the Bedini technology. They should be paying equal attention to the dynamics of their transistor. They might find out that another transistor might not work as well – if at all.      Consider that a focused and serious inventor can make his machines work through the sheer power of his mind – and not know it. He can make his setup work, but nobody else can. That guy in Canada, Hutchenson, and Hendershot are good examples. If They are not in the room the equipment operated by someone else just doesn’t work. This is a problem that comes up now and then – and something to keep in mind.



 

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