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Offline gyulasun

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #75 on: May 06, 2011, 12:11:47 AM »
...

i can see that the DC/DC convertor voltage switch allows you to control the drive - but i'm interested to know if it is possible to replace the converter altogether by just connecting the buffer cap to the i/p using one or more diodes in series

would you be able to try that at some point?
....

Hi nul-points,

I apologize for 'chiming' in, I do think a kind of regulator for voltage or current should be included in the feedback loop, otherwise either slowly or suddenly a runaway situation develops in the loop. A battery is an excellent such regulator and you can even abuse it to an extent but the moment you remove it from the setup and you do not care on some regulation, your setup becomes unstable for sure. This is why the input voltage (which is the output voltage from such a regulator) is to be kept under control.

rgds, Gyula

EDIT:  Yes, series diodes sound good to use but they are non-linear and allow a small but steady increase in the output voltage, this increase then brings gradually the RPM up and up, hence output power increases too so the setup finally runs into self destruction. For testing purposes they are good limiters I agree.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #75 on: May 06, 2011, 12:11:47 AM »

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #76 on: May 06, 2011, 12:12:58 AM »
@nul-points
I don't want to hear from anyone, steorn or others like them.This info is for all people and free too.
I have no intentions to be asociated with people who are just trying to rip us off.
All I want now is someone to replicate it to take this presure from me.I have more to show but at this moment this is HOT.
Running without the converter almost killed this generator melting the coils.... Must have something to keep the output stable.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #77 on: May 06, 2011, 12:18:22 AM »
Hi Romero,
Great! Yes I am wondering about the rotor magnet orientation as well.
I notice not all input coils have a magnet on top, you ran out of magnets or was this needed?
Why are there diodes on the full wave rectifiers, more power handling?

Thanks!
Steven
In this setup all magnets are the same orientation.
Yes, those extra diodes on top will add almost 2 volts to the total output and that is a lot.Proper rectifiers might work better but as usual, I used what I had already.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #77 on: May 06, 2011, 12:18:22 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #78 on: May 06, 2011, 12:20:01 AM »
Hi Romero,

I still can't believe IT WORKS !!! Its AMAZING !!!!!!

In the pic of the stators and rotor, you showed the nuts and bolts used to secure a I guess,
aid the magnetic field into the coil. May I ask how you secured the coils to the rotor when you replaced the bolts/screws and nuts withe ferrite.

Also, you mentioned multistrand mag wire for the cores. Can you be more specific, please.

Regards, Penno

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #79 on: May 06, 2011, 12:21:36 AM »
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has anyone replicated the schematic you presented here? Drawings looks nice but I will like to see it real.

All the best,
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #79 on: May 06, 2011, 12:21:36 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2011, 12:23:07 AM »
Hi nul-points,

I apologize for 'chiming' in, I do think a kind of regulator for voltage or current should be included in the feedback loop, otherwise either slowly or suddenly a runaway situation develops in the loop. A battery is an excellent such regulator and you can even abuse it to an extent but the moment you remove it from the setup and you do not care on some regulation, your setup becomes unstable for sure. This is why the input voltage (which is the output voltage from such a regulator) is to be kept under control.

rgds, Gyula

hi Gyula

no problem - i agree with you

when i first suggested trying diodes a few posts above i wasn't expecting that Romero would be able to remove the battery altogether

i'm not suggesting that it should be a permanent replacement without either a battery or some other regulator - just trying it as a go/no-go test would be sufficient because it would confirm if the 'feedback to source via diode' method, which we see so often in other designs, is an equally valid approach for looping the energy

thanks
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2011, 12:27:05 AM »
The linked pictures posted by FreeEnergyInfo are confusing me. I would rather like to see the circuit made by RomeroUK :) or at least which pictures/circuits are really necessary to construct the device.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Offline romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2011, 12:27:50 AM »
Hi Romero,

I still can't believe IT WORKS !!! Its AMAZING !!!!!!

In the pic of the stators and rotor, you showed the nuts and bolts used to secure a I guess,
aid the magnetic field into the coil. May I ask how you secured the coils to the rotor when you replaced the bolts/screws and nuts withe ferrite.

Also, you mentioned multistrand mag wire for the cores. Can you be more specific, please.

Regards, Penno
oh my god ... :) a lot to answer tonight.
The coils are made of acrylic and all parts are acrylic - I used dichloromethane to glue them all.
Multistrand made of 7 wires totaling  0.8mm or 0.82mm, not 100% sure.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2011, 12:29:24 AM »

@nul-points
I don't want to hear from anyone, steorn or others like them.This info is for all people and free too.


hi Romero

yes - i was just joking that Steorn will contact you because you have shown us what they have been *promising* us for years - and never delivering, it seems!  so maybe they need to ask *you* how to do it  :)

thanks for the feedback about the converter & stability

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2011, 12:29:24 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #84 on: May 06, 2011, 12:42:29 AM »
The linked pictures posted by FreeEnergyInfo are confusing me. I would rather like to see the circuit made by RomeroUK :) or at least which pictures/circuits are really necessary to construct the device.
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2011, 12:52:00 AM »
oh my god ... :) a lot to answer tonight.
The coils are made of acrylic and all parts are acrylic - I used dichloromethane to glue them all.
Multistrand made of 7 wires totaling  0.8mm or 0.82mm, not 100% sure.

Congratulations! romero, excellent work

Will add my questions later, lol

Ron

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #86 on: May 06, 2011, 01:03:48 AM »
@FreeEnergyInfo
you should have left the pictures attached to your post too, any info is welcome. People should appreciate it and most of it is based on Muller's design.
Do you have a link to a video showing it working?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #87 on: May 06, 2011, 01:12:31 AM »
@romerouk,

Great work.

What is the type of Hall switch you are using?

Thanks,
GL.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #88 on: May 06, 2011, 01:26:33 AM »
@romerouk,

Great work.

What is the type of Hall switch you are using?

Thanks,
GL.
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #89 on: May 06, 2011, 01:45:43 AM »
I have asked this before but if got missed in the exitement . All the rotor magnets are same pole face up . I feel that this may mean that from a given generator coil , the out put will be not AC , but pulsed DC . If this is true , then a BRIDGE RECTIFIER IS NOT NEEDED.It can be replaced by a single diode . Can anybody confirn or deny this please? Single diode equals less volts drop and higher output .

 

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