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Offline penno64

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2011, 02:12:18 PM »
One more -

are you calling a top and bottom pair, one coil?

Thanks, Penno

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2011, 02:52:05 PM »
One more -

are you calling a top and bottom pair, one coil?

Thanks, Penno
the coils are conencted in pairs, top with the bottom but when i am talking about coils I am refering to each individual one.
The current setup works with the driving coils in attraction to the magnets. I have originally tried in repulsion but this one works better.

Offline gauschor

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2011, 06:29:31 PM »
Very interesting device. I searched in Peswiki and found that another one made this device with a COP of 1.7. I wonder why this device is not used more widely in industry? The circuits I found look quite complicated though. Definitely not something for the average sixpack Joe...

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2011, 06:55:14 PM »
@romero uk .The device that you have built could be far more important than you are aware .One key question is , how complex are the electronics . If you are certain of your measurement techniques , then you have a proven COP of nearly 2 . Even if this can not be looped , look at the significance in small scale wind power . Imagine DOUBLING the output of a small scale wind plant . Or a solar array . Applications are suitable for both suburbia and third world villages . In a solar set up ,you can double the energy the solar panel put into the battery . And Double it again as it leaves the battery to feed the load ! Hows that for compound interest ! If the tech is scaleable , you could run machines in series , so that the energy increases in an exponential manner . Given enough info , I would definitely replicate this one .So back to the electronics . How about a schematic . Or why don't you sell detailed plans , and ultimately Kits?If this is real why are we wasting time on less attainable technologies?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2011, 07:23:55 PM »
Wowww!! Romerouk :o

fantastic work.

Can't wait to prepare a replication. Your electronic seems much simpler than the one we can see at peswiki.

Have you a shematic?

Thanks

Laurent

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2011, 07:45:18 PM »
This is the parts arrangement in my Muller setup.
I had few questions from the 'replicators' here about voltage on the battery going down when the load is on.
The reason for that is that from the output bridge rectifier I am using one diode to send power back to the battery to keep it charged.When the 20watt bulb is connected the power going back to the battery is reduced resulting that slight voltage drop.
This setup was built for about 25watt load, if the load is increased then all setup must be changed.
The gap from the coils to the rotor must be changed and some other things ...
If anyone is trying to replicate this please remember to do the testing with the load on and compensate the drag with the magnets on top of the coilsI hope this helps.

All the best,
RomeroUK

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2011, 08:25:02 PM »
@Romerouk . Thanks for that info . There are many more questions that need to be asked .
1What is the total number of coil and magnets
2 Is each coil used as a drive coil and a generator coil in turn .
3 If each coil serves only one purpose , how many drive coils and how many generator coils 4 You show a drive circuit for a coil . How many of these are needed?
5 Assuming that the output is derived from coils that act only as generator coils , how is the output configured , for example , is a separate bridge rectifier used for each generator coil , and the rectifier outputs connected in parallel? or series?
 6 In a basic setup , what electronics are needed beside the driver circuit you show and bridge rectifier
This info would give us a start .Many thanks , also could you give a rough rpm of the rotor in tests you have done? Also , on your youtube vid , please confirm that the Magnacoaster apparatus in not part of , or connected to , the Muller Generator .
« Last Edit: May 04, 2011, 08:45:28 PM by neptune »

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Offline neptune

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2011, 09:26:55 PM »
Further to my last post . It looks like you have 2 dedicated driver coils . The inputs to those coils are triggered by hall effect sensors , So the input to the device is pulsed .The big question is , does that ,or does it not , cause problems in measuring the input current .In other words , can the multimeter that you use to measure input current give a true reading on a pulsed DC Waveform.

Offline penno64

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2011, 10:43:38 PM »
Hi Neptune,

If you watch the video more closely, you will see -

9 coils pairs - 2 of which are drive coils and 7 gen coils
8 magnets on the rotor

all gen cols series to achieve 12v

A more interseting question would have been for some detail on the coils -

turn, core and wire gauge ?


Penno


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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2011, 10:49:30 PM »
@ROMEROuk

i remember that all or most "overunity, the guys have find because wrong "metering" !!

Think about that ALL mesurements  from NON-DC  as also NONSINUS-odial-WAVES  are with wrong / failed results.

As "unprofessional, you have only ONE WAY to see and result.
To have more output that the Input need:

Use 2 packs 12v 2,2Amp Lead-gel batteries
or 2 packs with 10pcs 1,2 AA NiMh AA batiers.

One to drive the INPUT  another to charge
if possible also lightning your bulb.

Use an switch to swap the 2 battery packs
In to out,  so  if that is running and lightning some
days.. THAN (only than) your circuit is UNEFULLY

Gustav Pese

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2011, 11:04:18 PM »

Hello Gustav,

Yet another way to prove the extra output is to loop it back by using a DC-DC converter which has a 12V regulated output. Regulated output is a must to prevent the runaway / self-destruction moments.

Here is another such converter (in the previous page I have shown another link on DC-DC converter) for looping his output back to the input:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/universal-3a-dc-power-supply-228639

This way any pulsed current measurement problems or any benefit from battery chemical (de-sulphation) effect can be avoided.

Gyula

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Re: Muller Dynamo
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2011, 11:25:33 PM »
Answers to your questions:
Only 2 coils (pairs) are driving.
All other coils are connected to bridge rectifiers, each set of coils goes to a rectifier then all are connected in parallel not in series as someone said before.
Each coil has 300 turns of 0.8mm multistrand, one set of coils is 600 turns in total.
The core is ferrite 6mm diameter 15mm long.
Lately I had some messages saying that this is a fake, some kind of trick I do... what can I say?
...wait until I will have it self running then who knows what else will come.
I finished this project about one month ago and I had it tested then I decided to post the video.
I had it working for days without any recharge to the battery.
So, my friends, if you think that this is a fake please ignore my posts.

All the best,
RomeroUK

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2011, 11:37:08 PM »
Hi Romero,

Sorry about the assumption of series for gen coils - my mistake.

Thanks for all that information.

Kindest Regards, Penno

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2011, 11:58:49 PM »
@gyulasun
I am going to buy that regulator from Maplins tommorow.

Thank you,
RomeroUK

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2011, 12:09:44 AM »
hi Romero

thanks for the driver coil shematic ( i use it since some times on my shorting coil experiment and it works great,, thanks )

So everything seems very easy to replicate. And so far, you do not use  "shorting"  on the generative coils. Only paralelling those coils, rectified  to the load-

So the main effect seems to come from the odd / even coil to magnet arrangement coupled with your addition of external magnet.

woww so simple genius

bravo

Will begin the replication ASAP

good luck at all

Laurent

 

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