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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3541279 times)

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #990 on: May 13, 2011, 08:15:52 AM »
Hi folks, Hi charlie. Not sure if you folks have heard of the Kawai motor, though this motor may have similar attributes to the Muller/romero device.
The kawai motor principle was used in an off the shelf motor that got something like COP>1.8.
It does this by not requiring any input energy to re-gauge, meaning no input is required to remove the rotor pole, which has magnets embedded, from the stator.
And so, this means that all the input into the stator coil/cores, interacting with the rotor magnet field, can be efficiently converted into shaft torque.

Now one might say, then just use an air coil, though with this, you would not get the extra output of the ferromagnetic material in providing greater magnetic fields for shaft torque.
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #990 on: May 13, 2011, 08:15:52 AM »

Offline lanenal

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #991 on: May 13, 2011, 08:17:08 AM »
lanenal,  Here you go from a file sharing service (it's an .flv):  http://www.sendspace.com/file/n370ix

@Stefan:
@e2matrix:

Thank you both so much for the upload. At least for some other countries, they can have access to those HD video now. I didn't realize that in China, even multiupload and sendspace are blocked...I will just live with those pictures and other materials you guys already kindly shared here. They are good enough even for starting a replication I think. Thanks my friend, don't waste too much time on this upload business, let's focus on more productive things...

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #992 on: May 13, 2011, 08:29:15 AM »
lanenal,  don't give up yet :)  Just tell us which file sharing servers you can see.  The Multiupload Stefan did put it on a bunch of file share sites like rapidshare.com, hotfile.com, megaupload.com, depositfiles.com, zshare.net and uploading.com.  So if you can see any of those just use a search engine for them and search 'Romero' or Romerouk and you'll probably find it.  If not I'll look tomorrow to find one you can get it on.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #992 on: May 13, 2011, 08:29:15 AM »
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Offline TEKTRON

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #993 on: May 13, 2011, 08:58:55 AM »
lanenal,  don't give up yet :)  Just tell us which file sharing servers you can see.  The Multiupload Stefan did put it on a bunch of file share sites like rapidshare.com, hotfile.com, megaupload.com, depositfiles.com, zshare.net and uploading.com.  So if you can see any of those just use a search engine for them and search 'Romero' or Romerouk and you'll probably find it.  If not I'll look tomorrow to find one you can get it on.


Matrix, Why not split the vid file into .part files and upload here as it seems they can see this site?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #994 on: May 13, 2011, 09:08:35 AM »
lanenal,  don't give up yet :)  Just tell us which file sharing servers you can see.  The Multiupload Stefan did put it on a bunch of file share sites like rapidshare.com, hotfile.com, megaupload.com, depositfiles.com, zshare.net and uploading.com.  So if you can see any of those just use a search engine for them and search 'Romero' or Romerouk and you'll probably find it.  If not I'll look tomorrow to find one you can get it on.

e2matrix, thanks that's great to know! I tested the upload sites you listed above and they ALL works here! I just don't know how to search for the download link. I tried to google romerouk + download, and got about 4,340 results (clearly this is spreading out quickly on the net), but didn't find what I need in the first few pages. any suggestions? Thanks a lot!

lanenal

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #994 on: May 13, 2011, 09:08:35 AM »
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Offline Tudi

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #995 on: May 13, 2011, 09:43:15 AM »
really nice videos DadHav. I think this particulary is important to see by most of the guys here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHJRWL42rCU Just skip to minute 15:25 and watch it for 15 seconds. The motor is eating up 0.00001 Volts ( don't care about amps, it's to measure time) per second from 2 volts. that means this device might run for 2 days aprox just on the CAP. So, in case you do manage to make a replication of RomeroUK device, do put a lightbulb or something that you know it should deplete the CAP in a measurable amount of time ( minutes ? )

@Charlie_V : nice analysis, We are searching for some unknown effect here. Let's try to dump what we already know it will not work. What seems to be unique about Romero's work is that he put PM's on top of the coils, maybe these get converted somehow into push power when the coils are not generating electricity. They will probably help in the aid of the magnetic field through the coils also, but this is a known effect. Another interesting thing about Romero's connecting each of the coils. When coil 1 is generating power, coil 2 is supposed to draw power from coil 1, so there should be no power in the wires at all, but he limited the back EMF so coil 1 is not feeding coil 2.
Maybe, i really hope, that the collision of the feed / generate cycles represent some mistery that may lead to some results. Apart from that, it's a very efficient generator / motor design.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #996 on: May 13, 2011, 10:50:06 AM »
Hi all,
my question may be stupid, but it is very important as I argued with one of my friends in the interpretation of the meaning of free energy and overunity and what is the different between them from the scientific point of view term in brief?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #996 on: May 13, 2011, 10:50:06 AM »
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Offline albert

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #997 on: May 13, 2011, 10:50:24 AM »
The efficiency of his generator is enormous. Also if you listen to the motor sound when he connects the lamp in the video where he did not loop the system, there is no speed change. So he eliminated drag completely.

Eliminate cogging
Eliminate drag
Core material ferrite for possible pumping effect of the bloch wall
Odd even arrangement of magnets and coils
Trigger drive coils separately at the appropriate moment
Bias the coils and the cores with additional magnets

Look at the behavior of the motor before he starts it up but when he connects the battery. The rotor starts to vibrate back and forth. This might give us a cue to where the triggering occurs.

Perhaps one should look at "magnetic viscosity" - do a google search on it . It could be related to the phenomena in this machine. Steorn claims that effect is driving their stuff...

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #998 on: May 13, 2011, 11:27:06 AM »
@All,

Some replication progress by a user called Lidmotor on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mniWYLz8AV4&feature=feedu
I am not sure this was posted before, I haven't had time to catch up. Sorry if it was.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #998 on: May 13, 2011, 11:27:06 AM »
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Offline powercat

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #999 on: May 13, 2011, 12:36:03 PM »
@All,

Some replication progress by a user called Lidmotor on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mniWYLz8AV4&feature=feedu
I am not sure this was posted before, I haven't had time to catch up. Sorry if it was.

WOW he hasn't even finished making it  and it looks like it's trying to self-run  :o

Thank's for posting that Teslaalset, it is the first time I've seen it and it's the first replication I have seen working,and it's not even finished  ;D

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1000 on: May 13, 2011, 12:51:41 PM »
@nul-points
I don't want to hear from anyone, steorn or others like them.This info is for all people and free too.
I have no intentions to be asociated with people who are just trying to rip us off.
All I want now is someone to replicate it to take this presure from me.I have more to show but at this moment this is HOT.
Running without the converter almost killed this generator melting the coils.... Must have something to keep the output stable.

Folks, I read this post again and think it is kind of important. Can we conclude that Romero has already announced publicly that whatever information released here belongs to the public domain?

THE WORLD WON'T BE THE SAME AGAIN!

Hooray Romero, you are the man!

lanenal

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1000 on: May 13, 2011, 12:51:41 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1001 on: May 13, 2011, 12:59:39 PM »
Folks, I read this post again and think it is kind of important. Can we conclude that Romero has already announced publicly that whatever information released here belongs to the public domain?

THE WORLD WON'T BE THE SAME AGAIN!

Hooray Romero, you are the man!

lanenal

Pls the co-ordinator of this project should put a Linux-style license on this project(GPL I think version 2). In brief; no one can patent it; any modifications must be published; you can charge for it. The Law only recognizes license not statements.

Offline powercat

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1002 on: May 13, 2011, 12:59:56 PM »
WOW

Energy stored in a capacitor converted to light and motion! Amazing!!  :o

You forgot to mention,  energy being generated back into the capacitor  ::)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1003 on: May 13, 2011, 01:04:32 PM »
[...]
I think this [DadHav's video]  particulary is important to see by most of the guys here
[...]
the motor is eating up 0.00001 Volts [...] per second from 2 volts. that means this device might run for 2 days aprox just on the CAP
[...]
in case you do manage to make a replication of RomeroUK device, do put a lightbulb or something that you know it should deplete the CAP in a measurable amount of time

@Charlie_V : nice analysis
[...]
When coil 1 is generating power, coil 2 is supposed to draw power from coil 1, so there should be no power in the wires at all, but he limited the back EMF so coil 1 is not feeding coil 2.
[...]

Tudi

a couple of  points for you to consider:

1) in his 'device self-running' video, Romero demonstrated the device powering an additional load - and also responding with a speed drop and then increase when he changed the drive level to the motor using the DC converter to around 4V and then back to 12V

towards the end of the video, Romero powers down the device by disconnecting the circuit at the o/p from the FWBRs

there is an immediate change of pitch as the rotor begins its run down

the rotor takes approximately 100s to run down
(video ends, a few seconds probably, before absolute stop)

what's the significance of where Romero disconnects the circuit?

this:  the 47000uF and DC converter are still connected to the motor drive whilst the rotor is running down - and yet they're not capable of extending the rotor run down any longer than 100 seconds


2) when running with 12V i/p the motor was measured to consume 12 Watts and generated 15V to the buffer capacitor

it needs 12W continuously, every second, every minute, every hour, etc just to keep running and generating that 15V into the buffer cap

at 15V the 47000uF buffer cap stores 5.3 Watt-seconds - ie. the TOTAL ENERGY in the cap is less than enough to maintain the motor at the same drive for 0.5 second

if the motor self-runs at 12V i/p in the video for let's say at least 10 mins - that would require at least 12 * 10 * 60 = 7200 Watt-seconds

at the start of those 10 minutes (600s), when Romero disconnects the battery, there is only 5.3 Watt-seconds in the cap

but we've already seen in point (1) that with only 5.3 Watt-seconds in the cap the rotor runs downs and stops in 1min 40sec (100s)

where did the other 7194.7 Watt-seconds come from to keep it running for another 9 minutes and 59.5 seconds?

so whilst it may or may not be interesting to watch a video where a motor could run for two days on a cap, what "particularly is important", for "most of the guys here", is to look carefully at the actual available evidence for this device and draw what conclusions we can from that


in your reply to Charlie_V you refer to coils 1 & 2

please clarify the coils in your reference -
  ie. are coils 1 & 2 the two halves of a coil pair at one stator location?  OR/

      are coils 1 & 2 the full pairs at stator positions 1 & 2?


i'd like to understand what you're saying about:
  "coil 2 is supposed to draw power from coil 1, so there should be no power in the wires at all, but he limited the back EMF so coil 1 is not feeding coil 2."


thanks
np


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #1004 on: May 13, 2011, 01:04:42 PM »
Don't worry I am not running away.I don't care if i am on different sites or if I am not. I prefer not to be.This is not my invention, I have only replicated the work from this great man, Bill Muller.
This is smal comparing with many other discoveries that are already available but sometimes even small is good enough to keep us going.
Now I am waiting other people to replicate then I will be more happy. I have a friend here on this forum that I talked with in private sometimes and this friend already thinks that yesterday video is a fake.I am waiting to see what is going to say today.
I might need to hang the generator with a piece of wire and have it running suspended...
People replicating this should double all my details, bigger coils, magnets and most important a heavy rotor with even number of magnets on it and uneven number of coils.
Make sure that spacing betwen the coils or betwen the magnets on the rotor is equally spaced.
The distance betwen the coils and the rotor  must be adjusted depending on the magnets used, core... Too close is not neccesary good.

Read this again (emphasis mine), folks!

This is not my invention, I have only replicated the work from this great man, Bill Muller.

What a humble spirit! What a noble man!

lanenal

 

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