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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3609283 times)

Offline TheCell

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #660 on: May 10, 2011, 10:53:20 PM »
Hello,
which device do you use for winding your coils?
Has anyone bought this one :
http://perfectgoodhelper.com/goods.php?id=1074

I have bought I-cores , the type used like in transformers and planed to build a adams motor with the following design :
http://motoradams.blogspot.com/
1,76 Watts in / 3,44 Watts out. Or maybe this Muller Design in a smaller scale.




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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #660 on: May 10, 2011, 10:53:20 PM »

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #661 on: May 10, 2011, 11:00:43 PM »
It was fake all along but I did not want to spoil your excitement. Few would have heard me anyway.
 
Look again at the first “OU video” (lol!) and by the end of it ask yourself why is the power led (DC-DC converter) still on after he turns the switch off. Huh?!
Moreover, why is the same led flashing in sync with the RPM of the rotor when it should be disconnected from stator coils?!!!
Or to put it simpler…What does he switches off then if not the DC converter?!!!
Hint: the other power source? 15V, 1-2A, 2 thin wires… Go figure!

I know, I’m MIB, oil-man, skeptic and a few dozen more…

Before leaving, greetings to the old friends still remembering me. 
See you on the next one, folks!

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #662 on: May 10, 2011, 11:32:49 PM »
sucks

I don't believe it, otherwise you wouldn't buy components for a new build.
Don't stop replicating yet.

THAT'S THE POINT !!!

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #662 on: May 10, 2011, 11:32:49 PM »
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Offline khabe

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #663 on: May 10, 2011, 11:53:38 PM »
re: naysayers will now leave us alone  >:(
Come on, guys, this is open discussion, forum for wide area of people, not only for fervent believers, hysterics, naives, amateurishes, habitual gobemouches.
I really hope this forum is not only for who despire education but also for people who have been in school ... at least a little bid  ::)
All these paranoia like sayings as "naysayers will now leave us alone" ... "at the peril of one's life" ..."danger to his family"  ...
besides different kind of conspiracy theories and waffle about mysterious millionaires  ... there is good likeness with tragicomical Selfrunning Waterpump-generator device runs 60 Watts lamp ...   Why you do not caterwaul today: "I was ardent believer !!!" ???
There is urgent need of to consider all odds and ends,
I have designed and built electric machines very many years, now and then when got some good idea I have realized this in one night.
Wonder that up till today none replicated this simplest motor.
cheers,
khabe




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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #664 on: May 11, 2011, 12:11:02 AM »
I am curious about the coil and magnet design and a technique that my OU
colleague and I used to test coils is to put them on a pendulum and operate them that way and count the swings and you can pick up very small differences. With today's announcement I'd like to use that technique to see if there is anyting unique to the physical arrangement. Powering the rotor is nothing new and backemf/FWBR is not new either.

Time will flush this out because there are some great guys here who are really onto this.

Norman

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #664 on: May 11, 2011, 12:11:02 AM »
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Offline toranarod

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #665 on: May 11, 2011, 12:11:14 AM »
@taranarod . Did you get around to weighing the wire on one coil please
I will do this and post the value today will other details

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #666 on: May 11, 2011, 12:13:59 AM »
It was fake all along but I did not want to spoil your excitement. Few would have heard me anyway.
 
Look again at the first “OU video” (lol!) and by the end of it ask yourself why is the power led (DC-DC converter) still on after he turns the switch off. Huh?!
Moreover, why is the same led flashing in sync with the RPM of the rotor when it should be disconnected from stator coils?!!!
Or to put it simpler…What does he switches off then if not the DC converter?!!!
Hint: the other power source? 15V, 1-2A, 2 thin wires… Go figure!

The switch only controlled the drive coils. The stator coils are still happily converting the kinetic energy of the rotor into plenty enough energy to keep the DC to DC happy with no load. No magic there.

RomeroUK doesn't remotely seem like the scammer type to me. Something happened...either good or bad...and he bailed. Simple. The information required the replicate the device is here. Follow through.

The Dragone paper referenced earlier does provide a very interesting glimpse into how a coil and PM can interact to produce significant OU, and could easily explain this device, Magnacoaster, and a host of other devices.

It takes faith to see what others cannot and strength to follow that to reality. Any blind weakling can be a snarking skeptic. It takes a special person to defy them.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #666 on: May 11, 2011, 12:13:59 AM »
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Offline hartiberlin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #667 on: May 11, 2011, 12:17:53 AM »
Okay, I analyzed the first Video of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVU3ZM14rw

again.

I have followed all cables in single frame mode with
a local flash player on my PC with the HD version of
the movie and this machine is in my opinion for real.

He has all bridge rectifiers in parallel and at the switch, where
he switches on the bulb lamp, he just puts the 12 Volts
DC from all the parallel rectifier outputs onto the single red wire.
From there it goes first into the analog ampmeter and then to the analog voltmeter.
So the ampmeter is before the voltmeter.
From the voltmeter only the one yello cable goes to the bulb and at the bulb
the second yellow cable goes away to a "Y" connection where it meets the
black cable going to the analog voltmeter and the scond black cable going
up again to the black cable going to the minus pole of ALL
rectifiers.
So this output circuit is for real and it shows 12 Volts at 2 amps= 24 Watts.

Also there is no capacitor and this is probably pulsed DC where every
of the 7 coilpairs gives 2 x 12 Volts sin^2 pulse as shown in the scope shot.
As this is bridge rectified every coilpair gives 2 of these pulses and all
superimpose over time and as the rotor is spinng pretty fast these
analog meters show steady averaged values.

Also when he starts the device you can see for a blink of a second, that
the digital ampmeter shows 2.60 amps input current.
That is, when all 2 series coilpairs conduct from the 12.64 Volts battery voltage.

So one driver coilpair then has 2.6 / 2 = 1.3 amps running through the 2 series coils.
So
12.64 Volts / 1.3 amps= 9.72 Ohm for 2 coils in series.

So every single coil has about 4.86 Ohms of DC resistance.

I guess this could be for real, if you take the diameter of the 7 wires in parallel
and the 300 turns.

So this video is in my eyes, for real.

Also all his prior videos and the fact that he is also working on the
Magnacoster device also on his table are really very convincing,
that he did not do any fake...

Regards, Stefan.


Offline toranarod

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #668 on: May 11, 2011, 12:19:23 AM »
Hello,
which device do you use for winding your coils?
Has anyone bought this one :
http://perfectgoodhelper.com/goods.php?id=1074

I have bought I-cores , the type used like in transformers and planed to build a adams motor with the following design :
http://motoradams.blogspot.com/
1,76 Watts in / 3,44 Watts out. Or maybe this Muller Design in a smaller scale.

here is the same data

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6959-robert-adams-pulse-motor-design-review-9.html

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #668 on: May 11, 2011, 12:19:23 AM »
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Offline toranarod

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #669 on: May 11, 2011, 12:22:39 AM »
Okay, I analyzed the first Video of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVU3ZM14rw

again.

I have followed all cables in single frame mode with
a local flash player on my PC with the HD version of
the movie and this machine is in my opinion for real.

He has all bridge rectifiers in parallel and at the switch, where
he switches on the bulb lamp, he just puts the 12 Volts
DC from all the parallel rectifier outputs onto the single red wire.
From there it goes first into the analog ampmeter and then to the analog voltmeter.
So the ampmeter is before the voltmeter.
From the voltmeter only the one yello cable goes to the bulb and at the bulb
the second yellow cable goes away to a "Y" connection where it meets the
black cable going to the analog voltmeter and the scond black cable going
up again to the black cable going to the minus pole of ALL
rectifiers.
So this output circuit is for real and it shows 12 Volts at 2 amps= 24 Watts.

Also there is no capacitor and this is probably pulsed DC where every
of the 7 coilpairs gives 2 x 12 Volts sin^2 pulse as shown in the scope shot.
As this is bridge rectified every coilpair gives 2 of these pulses and all
superimpose over time and as the rotor is spinng pretty fast these
analog meters show steady averaged values.

Also when he starts the device you can see for a blink of a second, that
the digital ampmeter shows 2.60 amps input current.
That is, when all 2 series coilpairs conduct from the 12.64 Volts battery voltage.

So one driver coilpair then has 2.6 / 2 = 1.3 amps running through the 2 series coils.
So
12.64 Volts / 1.3 amps= 9.72 Ohm for 2 coils in series.

So every single coil has about 4.86 Ohms of DC resistance.

I guess this could be for real, if you take the diameter of the 7 wires in parallel
and the 300 turns.

So this video is in my eyes, for real.

Also all his prior videos and the fact that he is also working on the
Magnacoster device also on his table are really very convincing,
that he did not do any fake...

Regards, Stefan.

good work Stefan
this is good confirmation.

Offline xenomorphlabs

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #670 on: May 11, 2011, 12:29:53 AM »
The switch only controlled the drive coils. The stator coils are still happily converting the kinetic energy of the rotor into plenty enough energy to keep the DC to DC happy with no load. No magic there.

RomeroUK doesn't remotely seem like the scammer type to me. Something happened...either good or bad...and he bailed. Simple. The information required the replicate the device is here. Follow through.

The Dragone paper referenced earlier does provide a very interesting glimpse into how a coil and PM can interact to produce significant OU, and could easily explain this device, Magnacoaster, and a host of other devices.

It takes faith to see what others cannot and strength to follow that to reality. Any blind weakling can be a snarking skeptic. It takes a special person to defy them.

Exactly and on top of it, you can see the LED turn off when the rotor has significantly slowed down and the output of the pickup coils falls under the minimal input current for the DC converter to work.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #670 on: May 11, 2011, 12:29:53 AM »
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Offline plengo

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #671 on: May 11, 2011, 12:30:24 AM »
Well,
I think it all got over his head..
I still think from all the communications we had with him
and his history of other youtube projects
with the coil shortening success, etc,
that it was real and no fake.

He might have just fallen for an offer he received.

He told me 2 days ago, that he had at least 2 serious offers
worth of millions of US$...and also that he has his wife on his back and
that she did not want him to release it all for free...

So he probably pulled the plug and
removed his youtube channel now when he accepted an offer from
one of the companies...

Now I am glad he gave me the permission to copy his videos
to my youtube channeel:

http://www.youtube.com/overunitydotcom#g/u

There they still are there.

So I would advise to the members who already ordered the parts to
keep at it and try to replicate it and post as much infos as you can including
videos and scope shots.

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

No problem. I ordered about $500 or more worthy of materials, so I guess I will build it and share the failures or may the successes.

Only one thing was very strange about the second "self-running video" where when he connects the second cable to the positive of the battery, where the other one was already there, and he removes both at the same time and shows the machine running in self-mode without the battery.

One can noticed that the second cable IS connected to the negative of the battery too. At 12 volts 7 amp battery it would easily melt that cable for the 3 seconds he was holding it on his hand. I have to revisit that video again, I could be wrong, but It looked like it was a dead short and not heating or burning his hands.

Fausto.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #672 on: May 11, 2011, 12:53:48 AM »
It was fake all along but I did not want to spoil your excitement. Few would have heard me anyway.
 
Look again at the first “OU video” (lol!) and by the end of it ask yourself why is the power led (DC-DC converter) still on after he turns the switch off. Huh?!


Look again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3YqCp84IOE


Because the 47.000 uF cap is still in parallel with the DC2DC converter !
Man, look again at the video in detail ! I just did it again.

Quote
Moreover, why is the same led flashing in sync with the RPM of the rotor when it should be disconnected from stator coils?!!!
Or to put it simpler…What does he switches off then if not the DC converter?!!!
Hint: the other power source? 15V, 1-2A, 2 thin wires… Go figure!


???
It does not flash at all...
I just watched it again in HD directly from the FLV file on my PC.

The 47.000 uF cap is charged up at 15.07 Volts from all the coil voltage spikes
and when he switches off, only the cap powers still the DC2DC converter for
a while and then the cap discharges and also the LED goes dim and the rotor stops.
That is all what could be seen !

Very normal for such a circuit with 47.000 uF cap charged to 15.07 Volts at the input
of a DC2DC converter and just discharging.


Quote
I know, I’m MIB, oil-man, skeptic and a few dozen more…

Before leaving, greetings to the old friends still remembering me. 
See you on the next one, folks!

Probably you did not watch the movie correctly.
I can now see all cables exactly in the HD version and all
is well and no extra cables are seen.

I can recognize every cable which is there.
There are so many cables, cause he needs to bring up the
connections for the lower coils up to the top.
But all is exactly so, as the circuit diagrams have shown.

I think it is really genuine and no fake.

He was just bought out by one of the 2 companies I told you about.
I will reveal their names, if he will not answer my email in a few days.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2011, 01:14:34 AM by hartiberlin »

Offline scratchrobot

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #673 on: May 11, 2011, 12:58:48 AM »
No problem. I ordered about $500 or more worthy of materials, so I guess I will build it and share the failures or may the successes.

Only one thing was very strange about the second "self-running video" where when he connects the second cable to the positive of the battery, where the other one was already there, and he removes both at the same time and shows the machine running in self-mode without the battery.

One can noticed that the second cable IS connected to the negative of the battery too. At 12 volts 7 amp battery it would easily melt that cable for the 3 seconds he was holding it on his hand. I have to revisit that video again, I could be wrong, but It looked like it was a dead short and not heating or burning his hands.

Fausto.

Look again.


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #674 on: May 11, 2011, 01:04:24 AM »
Best to just ignore people like that at this point...
Anyone with a clue about human nature can see you are an honest builder with only good intentions and real OU.

Told you so, "honest builder" yeah right

 

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