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Offline marcx41

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6105 on: July 20, 2013, 07:42:11 PM »
Hi, I find some time to finish all stators......

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6106 on: August 01, 2013, 06:08:47 PM »
juste some pictures

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6107 on: August 06, 2013, 09:28:16 PM »
juste some pictures

I see you are moving forward on this full steam! I am back on track soon I will start again.  :)


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6107 on: August 06, 2013, 09:28:16 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6108 on: August 16, 2013, 01:24:04 AM »
A no update update.

Just chiming in to say I haven't gone anywhere since my last post over a month ago.
Life has been distracting me with various things and I haven't completed anymore construction of the Q2 project other than a little bit of wiring for the relays.
Hope to get more completed soon.
BTW quanta magnetics is now offering a Q3 upgrade kit to upgrade the Q2 to the Q3 toroidal generator and I did order one of those kits but sill intend to work with the sine wave peak alternator first.

That is all for now.

PS: The "Breakthrough Energy Movement" is offering a conference, here in Colorado, in about two months.
See: http://globalbem.com/conference

Looks like there will be a lot of interesting presentations and people there.
Not sure if I will attend.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6109 on: August 18, 2013, 02:09:29 AM »
Managed to complete some more fabrication including overcoming more build challenges.

The first thing I needed to do was simply adjust an inner stator plate out a little more so gap is equal on both sides of rotor but the coil bolts where interfering so I just cut those off as they are all about a half inch longer than they need to be.

Then when I attempted to mount the capacitor bank I ran into a couple other issues.
Using the hardware as per the instructions and drawings; the cap screws that hold the bracket to the cap bank are to long and preventing the bracket from lining up with the holes in the main frame.

Also, unlike the prototype in the original videos which has the cap bank solidly mounted, this version just has one bracket at one end and the cap bank merely sits on a couple acrylic brackets that just snap into the bottom of the cap bank and these two parts have some very thin sections cut into the acrylic.
In fact they seemed a little unstable and when I tried to uninstall them, for closer examination, they both broke. . .

I am not sure why the design used these 'glides'.
The assumption is there may be some differences in over-all length so glides would compensate for this.
Of course, if this is the case, it seems the use of simple elongated bolt holes would solve that.
But the fact is that the end plates are solidly mounted at the exact length of the mounting posts so there should be very little variances.

And, of course, the issue I see with using just one mount is that if the motor tips over or somebody tries to lift it, by the top plate of the cap bank, this is going to cause a lot of stress and possibly break the acrylic at that end.

So I merely fabricated a couple new brackets, with tapped holes, so the cap bank is now solidly mounted and can be easily removed at any time by removing four screws.
BTW: The company logo is JUST below the brackets and being on the INSIDE of the frame; cannot be seen unless you kneel down and look straight at it.
They may wish to place the logo lower, maybe on the outside, or some other solution such as a different cap mount solution.

That is all for now.
Hope to complete more fabrication soon.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6109 on: August 18, 2013, 02:09:29 AM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6110 on: August 18, 2013, 10:08:30 AM »
Mighty fine build you have going there Scorch.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6111 on: August 21, 2013, 02:46:49 AM »
hi guys,
there is my nasty coils motor project :)

http://douktris.wordpress.com/mano-fe-projektas/




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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6111 on: August 21, 2013, 02:46:49 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6112 on: September 03, 2013, 03:29:21 AM »
hi, guys,
there is another my test:


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6113 on: September 15, 2013, 11:41:00 PM »
Hey everybody; I finally got around to completing the wiring and commutator for the Q2 configuration and do have it up and running.

Preliminary testing is pretty interesting. Without any precision tuning of the motor, or alternator, timing it appears to be really close to being a self running system.
In this configuration; the first two capacitor banks are being charged and alternately providing a pulse DC output from 350 farad capacitors out to the 24 volt battery.
Section three of the capacitor bank is running the motor section.

With the main pulsed DC output connected to the battery which is also connected to section three of the capacitor bank and the pulsed motor, I am seeing very little, if any, voltage drop from the battery. But have only run this for a couple hours and I am already preparing to tear it back down in favor of the more advanced "Q3" configuration which eliminates all this annoying mechanical switching and adds a toroidal generator for a third output.

Which also has some very interesting capabilities including 'side stepping' the effects of Lenz's law and with the addition of other switching that uses just one relay and a reed switch instead of direct contacts, may actually produce even more power out.
For more details on this view these videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4pzvkSkzo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3b3h2cEbHw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8kTzzAf_dw

And, BTW, I did produce a short video documenting my project, actually operating, before I tear it down again.
See:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3NUtHJ1gpE

When I first started the video; the battery was at 25.0vdc and climbing towards 25.1.
After only 4 minutes of video it was already climbing towards 25.2 . . .

So I am really looking forward to whatever may be accomplished with the toroidal generator configuration.
The alternator rotor, and coils, are configured totally different for the Q3.
So it will require removal of the entire sine wave peak relay section, as well as the alternator rotor and stators, then build it all back up again.  .  .

That is all for now.

}:>

PS: I bought a new camera.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6113 on: September 15, 2013, 11:41:00 PM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6114 on: September 19, 2013, 12:13:53 AM »
Just a note regarding reed switch timing of the Q2.
I am not a fan of this type of system due to wear of mechanical switches including reed switches.
As well as the differences between individual magnets that can have an effect even when a hall sensor is used.

Case in point-
Every since I completed the Q2 motor section, and got it running, I observed a pulsing irregularity.
I can hear it, I can feel it, and I can see it on the amp meter which throbs up and down versus a steady vibration of six firings per revolution.

So I connected an audible continuity tester to the reed switch and simply mapped the positions, on the timing disk with a pen, where the switch opens and closes.
At which point this became very clear there are different pulse widths for every magnet.
Four of the magnets are "average" but two are pretty short.
This is why the motor has a very uneven sound when it's running and I assume this also effects performance.

And the Q3 also uses the same type of timing while also adding a second reed switch.
I am now very motivated to attempt use of optical sensor(s) and a motor controller such as an Arduino. . .
Hope I can figure that out.

Somebody here had suggested I use an Arduino Leonardo for some other thing I was working on.
But I have no experience with such things and it will take some learning, on my part, including finding and building the optical sensor to work with the Arduino.

That is all for now.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6115 on: September 19, 2013, 01:17:24 AM »
Hi Scorch,

Congratulations!! you have done a great job!!! it looks super nice, I havent worked in mine anymore, but all your work has encourage me to pickup the work again soon after I done with something else I doing (iOS GameDevelopment).

I was wondering what do you think about having the motor running day and night, and the Electromagnetic radiations. ?

And with the Q3 add-on what do you think it will be the best way in use that output?

Thanks.

by the way, I have write couple of email to the Q2 team, and they always answer right a way now, so I am very happy about it.


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6115 on: September 19, 2013, 01:17:24 AM »
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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6116 on: September 19, 2013, 01:51:04 AM »
One thing I have observed-
While the motor was running on the bench; there was a 'misfire'.
Something caused the reed switch to stick, or some such thing, which caused the motor to suddenly stop and the relay to stay on and powering the coils at full power.

I think what happened is that when the reed switch, or relay, 'misfired' this resulted in the magnetic field, from the motor coil, to go "full on" and this was a large enough magnetic field to cause the reed switch to stay closed and keep the relay energized.
If left in this condition; it could cause some damage including, but not limited to, burned wiring and coils and maybe even a fire.

So common sense applies.
If you intend to leave an experimental device running, long term and unattended, it is strongly recommended that protections be used including over-load and/or fuse protection.

I, personally, am not concerned about EMF from this device.

Not sure what all can be done with the Q3 and have not even built it yet.
But there is a really good set up using a solar charge controller as demonstrated here-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4pzvkSkzo


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Hi Scorch,

Congratulations!! you have done a great job!!! it looks super nice, I havent worked in mine anymore, but all your work has encourage me to pickup the work again soon after I done with something else I doing (iOS GameDevelopment).

I was wondering what do you think about having the motor running day and night, and the Electromagnetic radiations. ?

And with the Q3 add-on what do you think it will be the best way in use that output?

Thanks.

by the way, I have write couple of email to the Q2 team, and they always answer right a way now, so I am very happy about it.

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6117 on: September 19, 2013, 02:15:41 AM »
Just a note regarding reed switch timing of the Q2.
I am not a fan of this type of system due to wear of mechanical switches including reed switches.
As well as the differences between individual magnets that can have an effect even when a hall sensor is used.

Case in point-
Every since I completed the Q2 motor section, and got it running, I observed a pulsing irregularity.
I can hear it, I can feel it, and I can see it on the amp meter which throbs up and down versus a steady vibration of six firings per revolution.

So I connected an audible continuity tester to the reed switch and simply mapped the positions, on the timing disk with a pen, where the switch opens and closes.
At which point this became very clear there are different pulse widths for every magnet.
Four of the magnets are "average" but two are pretty short.
This is why the motor has a very uneven sound when it's running and I assume this also effects performance.

And the Q3 also uses the same type of timing while also adding a second reed switch.
I am now very motivated to attempt use of optical sensor(s) and a motor controller such as an Arduino. . .
Hope I can figure that out.

Somebody here had suggested I use an Arduino Leonardo for some other thing I was working on.
But I have no experience with such things and it will take some learning, on my part, including finding and building the optical sensor to work with the Arduino.

That is all for now.

}:>

Hey Scorch

I know 'exactly' what your dealing with. Ive dealt with it also on a mag motor build.

I suppose there are mags made to specific qualities and some not. 

Try this. Remove the problematic magnets and rotate them some and reinstall. What I found is some are not magnetically centered, so rotating them 90% at first will give you a clue it it is an off centered issue or just a field strength issue.  And if it is a field strength issue, too strong, using thin iron wire or thin sheet metal, foil if can be had and apply a bit at a time to the sides of the magnet, around the circumference to shunt the field enough to lessen the field a bit or even to balance out a strong side if off center.

If the few problem mags are showing weaker then maybe get some mags for replacement and see if any 'match' the good ones you have. Or just position them out of their base closer to the sensor, be it reed or hall. And if too strong, push them in a bit, away from the sensor. If possible. ;)

In my opinion, when someone tries to sell a 'good' kit or product, that they would have 'matched sets' when it comes to magnets, just like in a quality audio amplifier, they will use matched sets for output transistors, a some other components.  ;) Thats is the best option and maybe a good recommendation for the company you got the kit from to think about producing matched sets for each kit. I believe Steorn has a magnet mapper for sale. ;D Are they still around? Just a computer tracked rotating device with a hall sensor for mapping the flux densities outside the mag.

Mags

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6118 on: September 19, 2013, 03:27:43 AM »
Hi everybody, a special salutation for your job Scorch, nice original Q2. In a same time I hope TheStone can finish his Q2 also ...quickly.
My view of the Q2 is now ready, I am waiting for the ultracapacitors now.
The motor run  with a hall sensor,and a small coil with rectifier and capacitor give the power for the SSR. The SSR generator works with two optosensors.I send some pictures tomorow.
I think I have to wait more than one week before work with ultracapacitor


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #6119 on: September 19, 2013, 03:44:17 AM »
Hi Marcx41,

Did you get the magnets from the guy I gave you the info from ? Yes I am unpacking everything and I have everything ready to start working again, Scorch work will help me a lot on somethings I did not know how to put together....

But I got new hopes now that I see Scorch work and that these people are responding to emails and willing to help.

Next month for sure, I will start working on mine again.

TheStone.

 

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