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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 4322111 times)

Dave45

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3945 on: July 03, 2011, 02:23:34 AM »
This is from the neogen vid

hoptoad

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3946 on: July 03, 2011, 03:50:35 AM »
snip..

My belief is that if something truly works, it can be replicated. It is not a matter of ether waves or trans-luminal semi-conductance, nor intelligent implementation of a turbo-encabulator using Thane-wave distortion modules.

snip...

LOL. .   I agree wholeheartedly
Cheers

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3947 on: July 03, 2011, 06:20:24 AM »
Ok Im going to get out there on this one,   ;D
What is lenz - say there are two fields in a magnetic field one moveing one direction and one opposite,
Leedskalnin said we only use one pole that we didnt use the positive pole
So if we are collecting only one pole, then is lenz the other pole circulating in the coil causing drag,  and can it be collected also?

also in Ramero's rig he used shielded wire returning to his battery   why?

There's a vid out there that uses a iron coil and the bemf collected is run to the opposite side of the battery than a normal copper coil.   interesting no

auhh the possibility's are endless
its an awesome creation


Once again its time for a quote from the man of the hour himself.

" I made a lot more electricity with steel than I ever made with copper."

--Ed Leedskalnin


Regards...


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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3948 on: July 03, 2011, 07:15:07 AM »
Hi Plengo,

How did you determine the capacitance of your coil?

- Jason O

Hi Jason ( i always admired your work ),

Using a mH / uF meter.

The number of turns?

Not sure, i filled the bobbin this time to full. I think by now it is irrelevant really. What matters is the experiment.

There are too many non-experimentalists here. We need more of those like JDO. Also Bolt has sopken great theories that have been proven right so far, while many others are eager to debunk or just speculate.

Lets work towards a solution with real evidences instead of just talk, shall we?

Fausto.

plengo

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3949 on: July 03, 2011, 07:37:01 AM »
If i was in R&D i would come up with a plan of process.

Now with the evidence of diferent speed under loads while diferent resonance output, i would research into the quantitave aspect of it so that we can calculate the ratio of input / output for one gen coil.

Next would be speed versus gain ratio.

Next would be magnet biasing ratio of change in output.

Next would be distance ratio output.

I will give some rough estimates on distance rotor stator versus output. When distance about 15mm, output for X speed is 36ma over 100 ohms resistor on the DC side of bridge (after coil).

On 5mm distance, output dropped to 5ma max under same conditions. ALL using biasing magnets.

I was surpised right there. How many arm chair scientists would have predicted that?

Fausto.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3950 on: July 03, 2011, 09:43:29 AM »
Interesting:

Optimal Choice for Number of Strands in a Litz-Wire Transformer Winding.

http://thayer.dartmouth.edu/inductor/papers/litzj.pdf

FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3951 on: July 03, 2011, 09:44:05 AM »
This is from the neogen vid
LIDMOTOR RUNING MULLER DYNAMO NO INPUT...
VIEV...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch2YYJorB5Y

FREE DOWLOAD NEOGEN  SCEMATIC ...

http://depositfiles.com/ru/files/l0njcj24c
« Last Edit: July 03, 2011, 04:01:23 PM by FreeEnergyInfo »

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3952 on: July 03, 2011, 02:49:38 PM »
If i was in R&D i would come up with a plan of process.

Now with the evidence of diferent speed under loads while diferent resonance output, i would research into the quantitave aspect of it so that we can calculate the ratio of input / output for one gen coil.

Next would be speed versus gain ratio.

Next would be magnet biasing ratio of change in output.

Next would be distance ratio output.

I will give some rough estimates on distance rotor stator versus output. When distance about 15mm, output for X speed is 36ma over 100 ohms resistor on the DC side of bridge (after coil).

On 5mm distance, output dropped to 5ma max under same conditions. ALL using biasing magnets.

I was surpised right there. How many arm chair scientists would have predicted that?

Fausto.

Fausto,   good science.   Yes surprising results with the distances.

BTW there maybe another way to wire the Liz wire coils?   I know this was posted before but I did not see where anyone may have tried this with their Muller rigs. 
http://youtu.be/vnsSRW7JqQA

Bill

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3953 on: July 03, 2011, 02:55:48 PM »
Quote
NEOGEN  SCEMATIC ...
Cool you found it, I wanted to paste it but couldnt find it besides the vid

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3954 on: July 03, 2011, 02:56:50 PM »
    Now we really need cool-headed and sober.
    Why replication success so far no one?
    Because: RomeroUK device is indeed false. And: We overestimated RomeroUK,
    "konehead", "bolt" describes many of the theories, RomeroUK may simply not understand.
   
    Please plengo not edit my speech, Because I speak for all of us are good. In order not to waste your energy and money.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2011, 03:53:14 PM by plengo »

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3955 on: July 03, 2011, 03:27:44 PM »
    From the beginning of the high replication all enthusiasm, To the present mess speculation and experiment, We are still not good progress,
    With my observations: Many people have given up replication, Including: "CLaNZeR", "Lidmotor", "lasersaber" other,,,,,, "skycollection" never involved in replication, I think there should be a reason.
    This thread is really close to death.
    This is just a wonderful fantasy and unreal dreams.
   
    In fact: "Lidmotor" video has hinted us a lot.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP8ucCA-jP8&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
« Last Edit: July 03, 2011, 03:58:25 PM by plengo »

Thaelin

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3956 on: July 03, 2011, 03:27:52 PM »
  Well then Mr. Aircore, explain then the vid that Lidmotor just posted???

Looks like it was running on ok. Allbeit made to run on 1.5v instead of 12.

Then we all saw the RUK machine running while being toted all over the place
and kept on going. There was another, he was beat on too and left. What will
it take ? If you have no interest then sit back and enjoy the ride while we
continue our quest.


thay

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3957 on: July 03, 2011, 03:31:00 PM »
    Now we really need cool-headed and sober.
    Why replication success so far no one?
    Because: RomeroUK device is indeed false. And: We overestimated RomeroUK,
    "konehead", "bolt" describes many of the theories, RomeroUK may simply not understand.
   
    Please plengo not edit my speech, Because I speak for all of us are good. In order not to waste your energy and money.

This thread is not for discussing fakes its for discussing replications and theories about the Romero Muller. If you doubt it then discuss it on other threads to which there are several. The fact no one has achieved a perfect OU replication does NOT make it a fake just some information maybe misunderstood. No different to Kapanadze or the TPU etc.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3958 on: July 03, 2011, 03:31:29 PM »
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itsu

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3959 on: July 03, 2011, 03:45:41 PM »

OK guys,  as promised, here a video of serial resonance testing:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-avee5Z1oU

I used the same hardware as with my parallel resonance testing, but with totally different results like also Jdo300 already pointed out.

Coil is multi filar (6 strands 24 AWG) in series, 27mH / 8.7 Ohm
Capacitor is 40uF non polarized,
resonance to be calculated and found to be right is around 160Hz.

As we have in serial resonance a minimum impedance (like almost shorted), a perfect resonance sine waveform for both Voltage
and current appeared only when shorting the circuit BEFORE the FWBR (seems logical).

Shorting BEHIND the FWBR still shows some sine waveform, but voltage is more distorted (i guess the nonlinear diodes messing this up, right?).

Opening the circuit shows a "normal" voltage (no current offcource) you can expect when a magnet is passing a coil, no sign of
a resonance sine wave!
I guess this opening of the circuit destroys the resonance completely.

When putting a load (28 leds brakelight) on it, it completely distorts the voltage waveform, and i fail to see any phase shift (allthought it is hard to see with this clamped off voltage waveform).

So, no speed up under short/load like seen with parallel resonance.     

To be continued,  regards Itsu