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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3890682 times)

Dave45

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3930 on: July 02, 2011, 03:17:34 PM »
Ok Im going to get out there on this one,   ;D
What is lenz - say there are two fields in a magnetic field one moveing one direction and one opposite,
Leedskalnin said we only use one pole that we didnt use the positive pole
So if we are collecting only one pole, then is lenz the other pole circulating in the coil causing drag,  and can it be collected also?

also in Ramero's rig he used shielded wire returning to his battery   why?

There's a vid out there that uses a iron coil and the bemf collected is run to the opposite side of the battery than a normal copper coil.   interesting no

auhh the possibility's are endless
its an awesome creation

Offline David70

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3931 on: July 02, 2011, 03:21:11 PM »
@Chef
Are you sure that the picture you posted is not altered?
Let's say that  one is fake but then must answer how in the first video the amps is not going up if he connected the bulb to the battery? the amps are going down....???? ???
Let's find a solution for the suspended one too.
Where is that guy who had another video, can you please post it?

Regards,
David

Dave45

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3932 on: July 02, 2011, 03:34:05 PM »
@Chef
Are you sure that the picture you posted is not altered?
Let's say that  one is fake but then must answer how in the first video the amps is not going up if he connected the bulb to the battery? the amps are going down....???? ???
Let's find a solution for the suspended one too.
Where is that guy who had another video, can you please post it?

Regards,
David

I agree where's the other vid that was referenced by Ramero.
Inquiring minds want to know    :D

Offline Artist_Guy

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3933 on: July 02, 2011, 05:32:07 PM »
@Chef
Are you sure that the picture you posted is not altered? (snipped)

There is no trickery in any image posted. I created that picture (as can anyone else) from actual HD video screenshots at the times stated and posted it on OUR's forum, because critical comments are not as welcome on this forum (they have disappeared generally). It was reposted without asking here, though I don't mind so much if it illuminates the discussion. Gamma changes only brighten the darker areas, they don't create more information (certain compression artifacts excepted, however they are not a factor here). Even without the contour lighting added, one can see there is the suggestion (to put it lightly) of a problem.

I don't know about Video 3, I've looked at it a lot. Video 1 ran off a battery.

But in Video 2, wires are seen where there should not be any, and in Video 3, there is no lamp, for a device said to have been built to match a 25 watt load, and to require that load to work (presumably other than itself). Such makes sense if small batteries are running the works.

My belief is that if something truly works, it can be replicated. It is not a matter of ether waves or trans-luminal semi-conductance, nor intelligent implementation of a turbo-encabulator using Thane-wave distortion modules.

If it did actually work however, and was 'repressed', the inventor can now be considered to be an active and completely voluntary participant now -as to that repression-. Any patent issues would have been solved by C&D letter, followed by a court case if that didn't work, not a visit by confiscatory agents of evil. Cure for the latter is plenty of light of disclosure and a police report.

I think Romero seems honest about his visit, so possibility was an exaggeration of real results (the big mistake), getting out of hand once domain information was posted followed by an unwelcome real visit perhaps, by those unhappy to find out it was not as it was stated, or maybe they weren't told even then. Who can know.

AG

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3934 on: July 02, 2011, 06:23:19 PM »
To all those doing actual experiments:

I would like to know if anyone has seen a speedup effect with the output winding connected with a series capacitance vs. a parallel capacitance. So far my experiments have shown that when a series capacitance is driven at resonance, the current at resonance amplifies the drag force, but in parallel, the opposite occurs. Would those of you who have done such tests please share your notes?

As much as I'm enjoying the theoretical discussions here, I would much prefer to focus more on test results and hard data.

NOTE: For those who missed them, I posted a video link to my latest experiment showing the speedup effect in parallel resonance:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3842.msg293548#msg293548

- Jason O

Offline yfree

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3935 on: July 02, 2011, 06:27:11 PM »
Video 1 was run directly off battery. It is just basic battery physics, one cannot hide this. Please see posts #3303 and #3380. Video 2 has controversial wires X going somewhere.
Video 3 does not show the whole device. Watch it again and again. The camera points downwards, sideways but never high enough to show the top of one of the threaded rods.
These are just basic facts. This does not mean that experiments should be stopped, or that Muller motor is not capable of OU.

Best regards,

yfree

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3936 on: July 02, 2011, 07:24:41 PM »
I just created a new coil on the same bobbin and this time I split the 7 strands into 2 groups.

Group one is I1, I2, I3 strands. (I for input).
Group two is I4, I5, I6, I7. So input has 2 entries.

Output is also grouped the same:

Group one O1, O2, O3 strands (O for output).
Group two O4, I5, I6, I7. So output has 2 outputs.

The whole coil now has group I1, I2, I3 connected together and I4, I5, I6, I7 connected together.
Output has group O1, O2, O3 connected together and O4, O5, O6, O7 connected together.

So now I connected O1, O2, O3 to Input I4, I5, I6, I7. Coil will have as its input I1, I2, I3 and output O4, O5, O6, O7.

In effect making this coil a bifilar. Total resistance is about 11.66 ohms and inductance without magnets and core about 2.59mh and capacitance around 16.30uf.

I thinks this is very interesting. I made two coils and I will put them on my motor and test them as generators.

Fausto.

Offline lota

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3937 on: July 02, 2011, 07:38:00 PM »
Hi,
i have bifilar coils as driver. Generator is a kegelcoil  with 0,8mm Cu. I have 1000V with this setup. If the motor is stand by, he is oscillating with 10khz. I have then 400v output. Is verry intesting. No OU.
My english is bad. Sorry.

Lota

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3938 on: July 02, 2011, 07:38:15 PM »
I just created a new coil on the same bobbin and this time I split the 7 strands into 2 groups.

Group one is I1, I2, I3 strands. (I for input).
Group two is I4, I5, I6, I7. So input has 2 entries.

Output is also grouped the same:

Group one O1, O2, O3 strands (O for output).
Group two O4, I5, I6, I7. So output has 2 outputs.

The whole coil now has group I1, I2, I3 connected together and I4, I5, I6, I6 connected together.
Output has group O1, O2, O3 connected together and O4, O5, O6, O7 connected together.

So now I connected O1, O2, O3 to Input I4, I5, I6, I6. Coil will have as its input I1, I2, I3 and output O4, O5, O6, O7.

In effect making this coil a bifilar. Total resistance is about 11.66 ohms and inductance without magnets and core about 2.59mh and capacitance around 16.30uf.

I thinks this is very interesting. I made two coils and I will put them on my motor and test them as generators.

Fausto.

Fausto,  nice to see some measurements.   How many turns of wire on your bobbin?  Is this the 7 stand wire from Surplus-Electronics-Sales in US?

I will also test. 

Bill

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3939 on: July 02, 2011, 07:50:06 PM »
I just created a new coil on the same bobbin and this time I split the 7 strands into 2 groups.

Group one is I1, I2, I3 strands. (I for input).
Group two is I4, I5, I6, I7. So input has 2 entries.

Output is also grouped the same:

Group one O1, O2, O3 strands (O for output).
Group two O4, I5, I6, I7. So output has 2 outputs.

The whole coil now has group I1, I2, I3 connected together and I4, I5, I6, I7 connected together.
Output has group O1, O2, O3 connected together and O4, O5, O6, O7 connected together.

So now I connected O1, O2, O3 to Input I4, I5, I6, I7. Coil will have as its input I1, I2, I3 and output O4, O5, O6, O7. (snipped)

For x.filar coil testing what might be a handy setup for quick changes for experimentalists would be to create a mini breadboard or jumper type pcb where one can solder just once the 7 wires respectively to a 7 contact pad set which a 7 pin header (x 2) then such coil wire ends can repeatedly be connected or unconnected to others without loss or strain on the Litz. Sort of a jumper system, similar to a modular synth, mini sized.

Offline FreeEnergyInfo

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3940 on: July 02, 2011, 08:35:44 PM »
Hi,
i have bifilar coils as driver. Generator is a kegelcoil  with 0,8mm Cu. I have 1000V with this setup. If the motor is stand by, he is oscillating with 10khz. I have then 400v output. Is verry intesting. No OU.
My english is bad. Sorry.

Lota

THANKS...

Offline bolt

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3941 on: July 02, 2011, 10:35:21 PM »
also in Ramero's rig he used shielded wire returning to his battery   why?

Dc inverter supply comes with screened cables like laptop supplies all do as its a HF switcher. So he cut plug off and returned to battery. No mystery there!

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3942 on: July 02, 2011, 11:45:05 PM »
I just created a new coil on the same bobbin and this time I split the 7 strands into 2 groups.

In effect making this coil a bifilar. Total resistance is about 11.66 ohms and inductance without magnets and core about 2.59mh and capacitance around 16.30uf.

16.3uF, Really? Wow!

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Dave45

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3943 on: July 03, 2011, 01:09:49 AM »
Dc inverter supply comes with screened cables like laptop supplies all do as its a HF switcher. So he cut plug off and returned to battery. No mystery there!
if I remember correctly he used the shielded cable before he connected the dc to dc inverter.
just looking for clues.

Sherlock  ::)

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #3944 on: July 03, 2011, 01:52:24 AM »
16.3uF, Really? Wow!

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Hi Plengo,

How did you determine the capacitance of your coil?

- Jason O