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Author Topic: Muller Dynamo  (Read 3861852 times)

Offline i_ron

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #120 on: May 06, 2011, 06:35:19 PM »
I understand now.I know
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I have spent about one month to do all this testings and adjustments. Small things can make a huge difference, like my extra diodes on top of the rectifier.The gap from the rotor to the coil I had it increased and decreased hundreds of times to get it right.

All the best,
RomeroUK

Romero,

Thanks, I didn't want to get off on the wrong foot... ;)

The multi strand... is it from computer monitor degaussing coils?

I hope not as I just recycled a whole bunch...lol

Rgds, Ron

Offline Groundloop

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #121 on: May 06, 2011, 06:43:11 PM »
@romerouk,

You probably did miss my questions.

What is the diameter of you rotor?
Also, what is the distance from the rotor outer rim and to the Neo magnets?

GL.

Offline romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #122 on: May 06, 2011, 06:47:15 PM »
I get many questions about How I started this project, where the ideea came from:Turnigy SK3542-1250 Brushless Motor - is made on the same principle uneven magnets/coils.
This is where I started , I was playing with a small airoplane... then I studied Muller info...
This type of motors are using neos and should be very hard to turn them with your fingers but having Mullers arangement they turn very easy.
One of this motors can be turned very easy in an overunity generator.
They are cheap to buy on ebay.Since then, I bought  different types and re done the windings, the only problem is that they are quite small to work with also removing the existing windings is not easy.
I also have a large DC motor that is underconstruction transforming it in this type of generator. I removed the existing large magnets and added one smaller magnet for each section in the rotor, remaking the coils just like in Muller design.
I hope this helps in understanding a bit more about how to build and how it works.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 07:08:27 PM by romerouk »

Offline nul-points

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2011, 06:47:25 PM »
no need for a sketch, they are in parallel with the one inside the rectifier

great, thanks, Romero

so we could just use 4 schottkys as a FWBR to minimise volts drop

Offline romerouk

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2011, 06:50:20 PM »
@romerouk,

You probably did miss my questions.

What is the diameter of you rotor?
Also, what is the distance from the rotor outer rim and to the Neo magnets?

GL.
Sorry, diameter is 25cm and distance from the rotor to the coils is about 3.5-4mm.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2011, 06:56:42 PM »
Romero,

Thanks, I didn't want to get off on the wrong foot... ;)

The multi strand... is it from computer monitor degaussing coils?

I hope not as I just recycled a whole bunch...lol

Rgds, Ron
Well you saw something but not quite right. The 2 driver coils are using multistrand from the monitor deflection coils, all others are from the folowing link:http://wires.co.uk/acatalog/st_wire.html
7 X 0.125MM SOLDERABLE STRAND EN.Cu 500g
Ref: ST01250007-500

Offline Groundloop

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2011, 06:56:53 PM »
Sorry, diameter is 25cm and distance from the rotor to the coils is about 3.5-4mm.

@romerouk,

I have compiled your information into this drawing. If I got anything wrong,
please let me know. Great work you are doing. :-)

GL.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2011, 07:04:38 PM »
@Groundloop
Excellent job, well done!
After looking at the website I bought the wires I realised that is 7 X 0.125MM SOLDERABLE STRAND EN.Cu that makes a bit more than 0.8 mm, all other info is OK.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #128 on: May 06, 2011, 07:25:26 PM »
@Groundloop
Excellent job, well done!
After looking at the website I bought the wires I realised that is 7 X 0.125MM SOLDERABLE STRAND EN.Cu that makes a bit more than 0.8 mm, all other info is OK.

@romerouk,

I have updated the drawing with your new wire information.

Attached is a proposal to a mosfet switch for coil driving.
(Other PNP, NPN and N-Type mosfet can be used.)
Have not built this switch yet but I think it will work OK.

GL.

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #129 on: May 06, 2011, 07:33:31 PM »
@romerouk

Could you clear up one little detail? There are eight magnets on the rotor and nine stationary coils correct? I just want to be sure this detail is clear.

Thanks!!!

Offline gauschor

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #130 on: May 06, 2011, 07:36:20 PM »
Wow, thanks a lot for this nice compilation. That's about the thing I was looking for. I got some questions left though:

edit: sorry, my questions are already answered in the schematic :)

Offline neptune

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #131 on: May 06, 2011, 07:37:31 PM »
@ Staffman . That is our best guess so far , see info on diagram of Groundloops last post .

Offline neptune

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #132 on: May 06, 2011, 07:40:34 PM »
@bourne . Thanks for your offer of help. what part of the UK are you in please?

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #133 on: May 06, 2011, 07:46:13 PM »
@romerouk

Could you clear up one little detail? There are eight magnets on the rotor and nine stationary coils correct? I just want to be sure this detail is clear.

Thanks!!!
Correct! nine coils on each side

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Re: Muller Dynamo
« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2011, 08:42:49 PM »
@romerouk,

Attached is how I think you looped the circuit for self run.

GL.
« Last Edit: May 06, 2011, 11:24:04 PM by Groundloop »