As diagrammed, it's a bit unfair to expect the ball to escape, because the ball is attracted to the SMOT entrance, and this attraction could help to close a loop of SMOTs.

So, to be fair, you should start by releasing the ball when it is far enough away from the entrance that the SMOT rail can barely pull it forward on the level surface.  It will then enter the SMOT with some additional kinetic energy.  If the SMOT is overunity, this additional energy will be enough to help it escape at the exit.

You will also have to put some effort into giving the ball a better landing at the end, so that it doesn't waste any energy banging against your table.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

G'day all,

First of all let me say I do not think there is any surplus energy to be found in a SMOT. Having said that, I have always wondered why you guys insist on rolling the ball uphill in the device. By doing this you give it the worst conceivable start with no advantage.

Let me explain. By rolling the ball downhill in a SMOT, if there is any extra energy, it will be added as inertia which will bring it higher than the starting point. By adjusting the angle you can get gravity to help overcome the sticky spot.

Test the device I have drawn in diagram form below and this will give you a quantitative as well as a qualitative assessment of its capabilities.

Hans von Lieven

Hans,

That is similar to Jean Louis Naudin's experiment:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm

Terry

Hans, looks like it has been done already, the ball seems to roll further with the smot magnets in place.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5D70lqT1ZU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNFS63dZIdc

Sorry Hans but you downhill smot will slow the ball not speed it up, come on people common sense, it is a magnet and a steel ball it's like extra gravity,

proof get a small ball bearing and tape a large magnet under a glass table, now roll the ball bearing across the table, it will grab the ball bearing ans stop it dead, now tilt the table ensuring the magnet is in the same place pro rate as Hans drawing, it will still stop the ball, there will at some point be a time when the tilt or incline is so great the ball breaks free, but the energy of attraction the gives that tiny burst of speed right before it is caught is not equal to the hold power, which would be sufficient to beat the argument, it is even greater, and if it was not greater, the magnetic pull field is a equally strong from the side the ball is trying to leave.

The uphill pull is your best shot if it is to work, with the gravitational drop providing the power to the magnet, although you have to get past the magnetic wall at the top.

actually no, i suppose I am actually going to have to teach you how to beat newton with one of your own devices to prove the point, one that I can kick his ass six ways from sunday using a dozen different devices outside the accelerator and my own PM machine.

The down hill device creates a garb point at passing slowing the ball, the uphill device has a wall, or final grab point.

If you want the smot to work and have perpetual motion, it is simple, the error is placement of the magnet under the track, one it provides little magnetic pull, directly in front is the perfect placement, so how doe the ball get past??

simple the magnet is perfect line with the track suspended in space past the point of the hill so the ball can be pulled up the hill to the magnet, as the ball just passes the crest it passes a electric light beam like a shop door entry and shuts off the electro magnet so the ball can fall, passing a paddle rotor like a hydro generator to power the magnet along to the base of the next smot on a circular track

I gave you this as I don't believe it can easily be used on a large commercial scale for electricity, nor be built by the average homeowner to power his house as mine will.

 have a nice day.

Hans,

Comparing the two videos, the one with the smot in place, the ball rolls further up the ramp than the vid where the smot is not in place.