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otto

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2007, 02:03:08 PM »
Hello AM,

thanks for your help. My knowledge about PCs is like my English, a disaster, thanks.

It would be great if you would help us in analysing this posts.

Of course, the other great thinkerers on this forum are also welcome. I dont have to mention who are here the good thinkerers??? No.

@Chef

here are serious people and they know about the risk.

Otto

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2007, 02:03:56 PM »
Hello AM,

thanks for your help. My knowledge about PCs is like my English, a disaster, thanks.

It would be great if you would help us in analysing this posts.

Of course, the other great thinkerers on this forum are also welcome. I dont have to mention who are here the good thinkerers??? No.

@Chef

here are serious people and they know about the risk.

Otto

AhuraMazda

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2007, 02:31:20 PM »
google - pulse current multiplier, PCM, look at Google books, maybe this can help us.

@Otto
thanks for the info.

For the lazy:
http://books.google.com/books?id=0RmkmrFxHM0C&pg=PA79&lpg=PA79&dq=%22pulse+current+multiplier%22&source=web&ots=0qRN_Mduh_&sig=Bn9r7iztcmCR1xE0CiM4qhcDCkM#PPA108,M1

I ordered this book:
Quest for Zero Point Energy: Engineering Principles for Free Energy By Moray B. King.I think it is very relevant ( and cheap ).

Your English is fine.

@chef
If you know something then spell it out. People in "cluster bomb" factory are not worried about death and injury. Why should we be.
Do you know something from experience? Please don't quote from other people telling you XYZ was hit with a bolt of lightening whilst
messing with his TPU.

When my son was 4 years old I gave him the sharpest biggest knife in the kitchen and made him cut a tomato and told him about the dangers.
I also gave him the matches and helped him understand what fire was.

You dont learn and grow by sticking your head in a box.


AM





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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2007, 03:36:19 PM »
I hope, i will never find here manual for simple working TPU.

If you want to post, you still not REALIZED, what are you dealing with!

@Chef

Is your preference to experience thousands of thermonuclear bombs going off in a fight over the last energy resources?

I hope I never experience large-scale nuclear war because a new source of energy was not found.  There have already been umpteen thousands of atomic bombs dropped over Iraq and this DU poison is slowing being blown around the globe and will be destroying the human genome for billions of years to come.

As the energy crisis (better called the stupidity crisis) continues, all nation states and governments will collapse, anarchy and local war lords will reign as the world population rapidly drops to 100 million.  On the way down from 8 or 10 BILLION, many people will be forced to practice cannibalism, as high-yield hydrocarbon-fertilizer-based agriculture collapses.  Governments, politicians, security agencies, and military all combined together have a maximum IQ around 10 with respect to planetary governance.  Since they have totally failed, it is up to the people to find a solution, for better or for worse.

100 000 unstable TPUs is still a lot better than 100 000 hydrogen bombs in the hands of unstable non-leaders, some wishing the destruction of the world to usher in the rapture to the Kingdom of God.

If the fact of six fully armed nuclear advanced cruise missiles flying over USA, totally outside the strict chain of command, and involving the mystery deaths of half a dozen airmen did not wake you up - nothing will.

But, maybe I have a distorted way of looking at things?

Earl

Nobody cant change the world! World change because of money, and flow on money tracks.....

I dont know how old are you, but if you think you or this forum peoples can change the world with some oscillation, what THEY still NOT UNDERSTAND fully how dangerous can be,you need to be very young, or very naive.

Let's look who will die first in experiments,and i am NOT JOKING!

Ps.: Do you want to give to your child KNIFE? Of course no, because he can heart him. So You give to him KNIFE only, when he enough old, and can fully understand how need to use the KNIFE to not hurt peoples or himself.

Have a good fun!

Bye


I grew up in wv where we were all learned how to use a gun at a very young age. You hardly ever hear about a kid in this area shooting himself or others by accident.   When you look at most of the larger cities though,  accidental shootings happen all the time.   The kids get hold of their parents guns and have no idea about the proper usage and dangers of that weapon and then blam... .  So I as you which is better, teaching someone about the proper usage and dangers of something, or hiding it from them hoping they don't find it?  If you know something share you knowledge and teach people proper usage, or they are going to find things out the hard way sooner or later.   I personally don't know how someone could live with themselves if they let this happen.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2007, 04:34:34 PM »
I have been playing around with the idea of using spark gaps. Please do not take this post as a suggestion as I am just playing around with this right now. But you have to admit that if spark gaps work that would be way cool. What else can be used to deliver as sharp of a flow of electrons through control coils?

The hand made spark gap I put together requires around 1,200 volts give or take 200 volts before break over. A 1,200 volts supply feeds a resistor capacitor circut. Once the capacitor charges to the break over voltage it discharges through the spark gap. This is a relaxation oscillator using the spark gap as the threshold.

The high voltage with my crude set up is not allowing me to get descent readings. I have tried gas tube arrestors used in telecommunications but they do not
seem to breakdown at a lower voltage. Tried the solid state lightning protectors as well and they just clamp.

If I could get my hands on some lower voltage spark gaps I think firing each individual control coil could end up being self timed as long as the coils I got are wound correctly and the right resistor capacitor values are picked.

I would like to get a hold of a spark gap that would break over at around 30 volts if that is possible. I would look into using something that would break over at 100 volts. Whatever is out there that could work at a lower voltage I would like to know about. Please let me know if there are any solutions for me to go after for a lower voltage spark gap. They are going to probably end up being a tube with some inert gas. I have seen some of these spark gaps with some radio activity on the electrodes as well.

Can anybody let me know if by using the gas and other methods to reduce the required voltage is going to slow down the electron flow through the gap and coil.

I just got off the phone with Perkin Elmer and an applications dude said they had to remove some of their spark gaps from the web site due to homeland security.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2007, 05:21:52 PM »
I have been playing around with the idea of using spark gaps. Please do not take this post as a suggestion as I am just playing around with this right now. But you have to admit that if spark gaps work that would be way cool. What else can be used to deliver as sharp of a flow of electrons through control coils?

The hand made spark gap I put together requires around 1,200 volts give or take 200 volts before break over. A 1,200 volts supply feeds a resistor capacitor circut. Once the capacitor charges to the break over voltage it discharges through the spark gap. This is a relaxation oscillator using the spark gap as the threshold.

The high voltage with my crude set up is not allowing me to get descent readings. I have tried gas tube arrestors used in telecommunications but they do not
seem to breakdown at a lower voltage. Tried the solid state lightning protectors as well and they just clamp.

If I could get my hands on some lower voltage spark gaps I think firing each individual control coil could end up being self timed as long as the coils I got are wound correctly and the right resistor capacitor values are picked.

I would like to get a hold of a spark gap that would break over at around 30 volts if that is possible. I would look into using something that would break over at 100 volts. Whatever is out there that could work at a lower voltage I would like to know about. Please let me know if there are any solutions for me to go after for a lower voltage spark gap. They are going to probably end up being a tube with some inert gas. I have seen some of these spark gaps with some radio activity on the electrodes as well.

Can anybody let me know if by using the gas and other methods to reduce the required voltage is going to slow down the electron flow through the gap and coil.

I just got off the phone with Perkin Elmer and an applications dude said they had to remove some of their spark gaps from the web site due to homeland security.

The breakdown voltage of a gap is determined by several factors including the distance between the electrodes - so try moving them closer together.  Commercial sark gap tubes are desinged for various breakdown voltage levels, various gas mixtures, and electrode materials.  I've seen some on Ebay several times - like to ones Eric Dollard used in his video.

I started this thread a while back for spark-gaps:  (no one is interested...)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3674.msg61873.html#msg61873



« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 04:14:41 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2007, 05:38:23 PM »
   A standard neon bulb will fire at around 90v and the ones that you get from the shack have a small resistor on them for use on direct line or 125v. Should fit the bill and cheap too.

thaelin

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2007, 05:53:07 PM »
Thanks Thaelin. I was thinking about neon bulbs. I'll give it a try. Heck I've tried everything else immediately available to me. I'm just afraid of the impedance and parasitic capacitance.

I know Grumpy that you and many other are working with spark gaps in this application and I agree with you. I checked the other posts and it just seems that the high voltage gets me erroneous results. I am hoping that good low voltage spark gaps provide for better measurable findings.

Thanks again and take care.

nap

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2007, 07:15:37 PM »
Oh, yeah!  We're supposed to use tubes...I forgot.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 04:13:43 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2007, 11:26:25 PM »
what?

where did that sprak gap come from?

It's ultra-fast rotating fields and something that changes at a certain speed/voltage.
electrons gain in mass as velocity becomes extreme.
we need to convert the mass back into electricity fast enough.(cancel flux,speed up,cancel the flux cancelling action, kaboom)

Where does a spark gap fit in this?

M.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2007, 11:50:22 PM »
@marco,
I am with you. I think discussion of spark gaps should move to where ever grumpy pointed out.
Now back to the TPU....

AM

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2007, 12:01:10 AM »
yes well in any case we can use a single wire and flow electrons thrue it in diffrent directions.(only relating to their potential power source)
for a simple example we put in 10 volts from left to right, and also 10 volts from right to left in the same wire, and the resulting flux will be close to zero.
offcource the electrons will cause an action similair to friction and so the wire will heat up.
then we can use a DC which travels on the inside of the conductor and another high frequency signal which travels on the outside due to skin effect to minimize this heating action.

and then we can turn this wire into a coil, and we are working "out of the box" so to speak.
then we can actually slap frequency's together in a single wire or coil, like two transformers in reverse.
if our core is a copper wire, we get eddy currents and who knows...

M.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2007, 12:07:18 AM »

spark gap is merely an easy switch
« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 04:10:36 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2007, 01:01:07 AM »

Come on Marco.  You mentioned Dollard and others a long time ago.  Dust those books back off and have a look.

« Last Edit: December 19, 2007, 04:08:10 PM by Grumpy »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2007, 05:15:36 AM »
I will be glad to post this in a different thread but I thought I would let you guys in on what I found with Thaelin's suggestion using a neon bulb as a low voltage spark gap. The impedance of the neon bulb seems to be to high as the discharge of the capacitor is to slow. Produces pretty flashes though :)

I am performing these tests on a version of a tpu; single collector coil made from insulated electric fence wire with four control coils. I am currently running tests with one of the control coils. The 1,200 volt spark gap is playing way to many games with me. I am back in the hunt for the low voltage spark gap solution.

Thanks again.

nap