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Rosphere

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #75 on: December 23, 2007, 05:10:59 PM »
...Perhaps the four vertical coil design detail 'evolved' over time.  It may have started with the open TPU as the four pillars positioned between the two disks, then...
...I turned it off because I have to sleep and wife and baby dont like the tic-tac-tic-tac-toc, tic-tac-tic-tac-toc of the realys...

This is a stretch: what if the four pillars positioned between the two disks of the open TPU design are small relays?  :-\
'Just running it up the flagpole here, boss.'  ;)

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #76 on: December 23, 2007, 05:42:57 PM »
@Rosphere

On the OTPU, there are two horizontal coils at 180 degrees between rings, one vertical coil and one metal box that looks like an EMI filter. There is also only three legs, the other leg is the circuit board. I think the rings are used in the same manner as the LTPU by simlpy pulsing the two H coils to magnetize space between the rings North and South. When the pulse drops, the rings release static into the four collectors. Simple as he said, there is not much to this device. We also know he pushed a button to start it and one of the legs has a cover on it most likely to enclosed a few small batteries for start-up.

Here is a photo of a device I made just to test the magnet on the top and sending audio into the coil actually made my whole bench vibrate. For the collector lamp wire is useless. It is probably plastic coated Litz wire. More individual strands to catch energy. Will test this in 2008 with my Litz wire.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #77 on: December 24, 2007, 02:09:35 AM »
Hi Wattsup,

That is a very interesting test you have there.  I am a bit unsure as to how you wired it, however.

Is this correct?
-Aluminum plates go to high voltage DC source to establish a potential between them, which the relay coil's magnetic field interacts with
-Relay coil goes to pulse generator of some sort
-Lamp wire (I would replace with Litz wire as you said ;)) is the power output (collector)

Thanks!

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #78 on: December 24, 2007, 12:02:43 PM »
Hello all,

merry Christmas.

Otto

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #79 on: December 24, 2007, 03:09:02 PM »
My very first post here, so please be gentle  ;)

Reading and studying a number of solid state devices these past months, I tried to comprehend what was going on. To simplify things a little, I decided to only loosely watch setups with permanent magnets (MEG, HOPE and alike) and focus on non-permanent-magnet-types. The tpu as my main candidate.

What I am wondering is whether someone has already asked him/herself why SM noted his coils being in series or parallel? What happens if we combine the use of litze (many isolated strands) with http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/parabifc.htm (figure 2)? Changing the coil's induction by switching the litze strands from massive parallel to massive serial might yield interesting results.

Maybe it's time for me to start building, too!  :)

EDIT:
Paraformer hmmmm
« Last Edit: December 24, 2007, 03:42:33 PM by M@rcel »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #80 on: December 25, 2007, 01:09:39 AM »
Merry Xmas Otto and all,   

Did Santa bring you a TPU?      LOL  :)

EM

P.S.  Keep at it guys, we'll get it in 2008... or maybe 2009   Ha  Ha  :)

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #81 on: December 25, 2007, 04:54:55 AM »
Take a look at US patent # 5383362

It deals with vibratory gyroscopes in the form of a ring.   Nothing moves, just acoustic/vibration waves go round and round.  It will give you some idea of what could be happening in the iron wire collector of the TPU.

1)  Frequencies are input into the vertical control wires of the TPU, to cause a rotational magnetic field (RMF).

2)  Due to magnetostriction,  the RMF causes deformation of the wire and hence actual vibration waves accompany it.

3)  These physical vibratory waves in the iron ring cut through magnetic fields and produce current by induction.  In the right configuration you can get DC output.

EM

P.S.  It's important to hit the vibratory resonant frequency of the ring not the electrical wavelength.  A beat frequency oscillator (heterodyning) principle will come in handy to hit that low frequency.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #82 on: December 26, 2007, 08:38:45 PM »
@M@rcel

Congrats on your first post.
Regarding serializing Litz wire is very difficult to do if it is not bundled Litz wire.
See on t his link Type 3, 5 and 6..
http://www.neewc.com/litz.asp
This is a good page for Litz sizes and strands.
http://www.comax.uk.com/productinfo/litz_wire_selection.htm

@EM

Interesting patent. Thanks.

@All

Further to my last two posts, just to show what I mean by having a mag field in the center and Litz on the outer with an audio frequency, I have finally made a first video and have placed it on youtube at;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXgL4Wf8zrQ

Now if the Litz wire was bundled, I could use one or two bundles for the audio frequencies and the balance of the bundles would simply vibrate in a mag field producing energy. So the same wire would produce two results. At least this is the theory and I will be building a small scale unit as per Alt. 2a and test this soon.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #83 on: December 26, 2007, 09:43:57 PM »
Being a beginner, I was thinking the following:

What if:
- The collector coil is iron wire (few turns), made to oscillate using a capacitor (normal LC oscillator) at it's natural frequency frequency (resonance)
- The control coils (around the collector) pulse this oscillation to sustain it and lead out electromagnetic energy (as in Tseungs leadout theory).
- The pickups (litze around the collector).
- The oscillating waveform on the collector would be a sinus, the pickup (output) would be a sinus, too
- The control waveform would be pulsed DC, timing dependant on the signal level measured by the pickups (eg, pulse x microsecs after descend to 0V on pickup)
- Control coil pulse amplitude controlled to stabilize pickup voltage (for load correction)

It's probably very naive and too simple, but it just keeps spinning around in my head

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #84 on: December 27, 2007, 09:07:29 AM »
Hello all,

@EM

Santa didnt know that Im working on my TPU in my garage so .....

@All

if you look a little closer to the 3 stack you can see that 2 control coils are connected together. The top and bottom controls. This means that this 2 controls are pulsed thogether and this means that the top and bottom collectors are rotated in the same direction. And the middle control and collector coil?? Pulsed in the contra way!!

In short: top and bottom controls and collectors in 1 direction, middle control and collector in the contra direction.

Of course, each control and collector in SERIES.......like "dfro" teached us. Not to forget the caps....

A time ago I thought I was clever and used the controls "tapped" into the collectors. It was great but to connect the controls in SERIES with the collectors is genious!!!

Otto


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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2007, 10:44:58 AM »
Hello all,

HAPPY NEW YEAR.

Otto

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #86 on: January 03, 2008, 10:08:01 AM »
Hello all,

@EM

Santa didnt know that Im working on my TPU in my garage so .....

@All

if you look a little closer to the 3 stack you can see that 2 control coils are connected together. The top and bottom controls. This means that this 2 controls are pulsed thogether and this means that the top and bottom collectors are rotated in the same direction. And the middle control and collector coil?? Pulsed in the contra way!!

In short: top and bottom controls and collectors in 1 direction, middle control and collector in the contra direction.

Of course, each control and collector in SERIES.......like "dfro" teached us. Not to forget the caps....

A time ago I thought I was clever and used the controls "tapped" into the collectors. It was great but to connect the controls in SERIES with the collectors is genious!!!

Otto



Hi Otto & all,

first of all Happy new year to everyone, I'm new to this forum, although I've been reading for quite a while trough all material available (Mark's emails, Otto & Roberto's TPU/ECD replication, etc..). I spent quite some time (over a year) working on Bedini's machines so I'm pretty familiar with radiant spike generation, but I had always in my mind that sooner or later I wanted to give  the TPU a try too.
Otto, I wanted to start from what I've learnt from all of Steven's "hints", but stillI would like to ask you a couple of questions regarding the ECD. Were you able to measure effective input versus output power? Why didn't everyone build one on these forums?! ;D
There is also something that appears strange to me when looking at the schematic. On one side of the control coils the primay and secondary are directly connected, this means all the mosfet drains are connected togheter trough the secondary's 0 connection?!

About the 3 stack you were talking about in your post, where can I see that?
For now I've made a 35cm diam collector with a double 6 mm2 braided wire (like a thick lamp wire) and 3 control coils wrapped around the whole collector's circumference and am about to wrap some wire around the whole thing to add some feedback from the collector. I 'm sure it will take more that one more collector but I want to start seeing what the effects were with one first ;)

best regards,

Mario




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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #87 on: January 04, 2008, 02:54:13 AM »
Take a look at US patent # 5383362

It deals with vibratory gyroscopes in the form of a ring. [...]

3)  These physical vibratory waves in the iron ring cut through magnetic fields and produce current by induction.  In the right configuration you can get DC output. [/color]

EM

P.S.  It's important to hit the vibratory resonant frequency of the ring not the electrical wavelength.  A beat frequency oscillator (heterodyning) principle will come in handy to hit that low frequency.

Nah, it's pretty clear from what SM has said that he drives the TPU at multiples of the electrical resonant frequency of the big toroidal coil.  He creates two electrical standing waves which add together to make a travelling/rotating wave, like a toroidal Tesla coil.  This traveling wave is as big as the component standing waves, i.e., It can be 100s of times larger than the input (limited by the coil's Q), but ONLY if you drive the coil at its fundamental resonant frequency and the harmonics thereof.

So, what does this have to do with the "gyroscopic effects"?  Well, because the travelling wave is so big, it carries with it a substantial magnetic field. (the field looks like the one created by two magnets on opposite sides of the ring, directing their fields tangentially, N toward N and S toward S).  These magnetic fields store most of the energy in the coil, and because they store energy, by E=mc^2, they have mass and inertia.  The mass is not very much, but those fields are spinning around the coil so fast (say 0.05c) that their angular momentum could actually be measurable, and its gyroscopic effects might actually be felt.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #88 on: January 04, 2008, 04:49:36 AM »
A "resonance stationary wave" (must be spherical or cylindrical) has it's own rotational moment and inertia - BAM!

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #89 on: January 04, 2008, 06:08:26 AM »
Hello all,

our next step - step 2 is as follows:

Step 2

Get rid of the f...g power supply and the 3 MOSFET oscillators.

Nice experimenting.

Otto

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