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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #390 on: February 24, 2008, 12:41:28 PM »

Nice shots of 'field lines'. Chances are pretty good the actual lines are still on the screen even when there is no magnet nearby. I would have put them there to help show the field shape just like 'field lines' were intended originally - only a way to visualize the shape.

Notice how all the subtext seems wrong? I doubt it is. I also doubt it is the magnetic H field he is showing.


@BEP

From what I understand the field lines as displayed by Sweet can only be
duplicated using a Sony Trinton.

The subtext is a description of the magnetic orientation as described in the video.

What is interesting is that these field patterns don't match whats in the text
books. If it is not displaying the magnetic H field then what is it...

I'm wondering what would be the implication if we modeled the field interaction, when two
pulses meet, around what Sweet/Bearden displayed in the video.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #391 on: February 24, 2008, 05:18:38 PM »
@BEP

From what I understand the field lines as displayed by Sweet can only be
duplicated using a Sony Trinton.

The subtext is a description of the magnetic orientation as described in the video.

What is interesting is that these field patterns don't match whats in the text
books. If it is not displaying the magnetic H field then what is it...

I'm wondering what would be the implication if we modeled the field interaction, when two
pulses meet, around what Sweet/Bearden displayed in the video.

Trinitron? Why does mention of this technology keep popping up? There were two main differences (that I am aware of) between the Triniton technology and others.

1. The trinitron used a separate cathode for each color (separate source). This may have changed to one in later years. I don't know.
2. Most CRTs used a metal plate with tiny holes where each pixel would appear when the beam penetrated. The trinitron had no metal plate. It used vertical wires (supported by 1 or two horizontal wires) to place the dots.

Thinking outloud....  place a magnet near a screen with the metal plate inside - just did it (good thing degaussing is built in) - Yep! just like the books tell us - in disagreement with the pics.
---now that my Tv and monitor are both goofed up ----
My old TV shows the same as his pics. So I can only surmize the computer monitor shows magnetic field effects (like the books. What is my TV showing?  I need to work on this.

BTW: no crt prep needed here. The TV has the horizontal wires showing. One about 1/3 and another about 2/3 from the top. The separate RGB beams made the 'field lines' apparent. Even a single bar magnet shows two distinct separate lobes. 1 at N and 1 at S.

Something else I just noted: My computer monitor is still screwed up (assuming it is not of Trinitron heritage). My old TV shows no signs now of my magnet games. Nope - no auto degaussing.

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #392 on: February 24, 2008, 05:28:58 PM »
@Pese

I haven't been fluent in German in over 30 years but it is obvious you are right. Those documents are indeed 'a must read'. His math is far beyond me but the concepts are clear. (speaking of Dupre)

Thanks!


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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #393 on: February 24, 2008, 06:07:35 PM »
Ok guys,  I'm going to let out a secret    :P

What do you think?

EM

P.S.  The reasoning should be straight forward based on what we have been discussing.  You can buy power combiners for microwave work.  Do they multiply power?  No.   Why and why not?   Do you see the reasoning here.   The input impedance at the signal source is  1/2  z0, where "z0" is the characteristic impedance of the track, say 50 ohms.   We get 1/2 50 ohms since we have the two sections in parallel.

Power in is then: Pin = V^2/25  (for the short duration of the ON pulse, and assuming negligible internal source impedance for the battery/MOSFET circuit)

Now here's the magic.  At the other end, due to the slight taper of the lines as they combine (let's assume we can find a nice taper that minimizes reflections backwards)   the pulses combine and the voltage doubles since each pulse contributes a packet of charge, so double the charge double the voltage.  The T-line is now back to 50 ohms, and let's assume matched load of 50 ohms.

Power out is now:   Pout = (2xV)^2/50 = 4 x  V^2/50 = 2 x V^2/25 = 2 x Pin

You see, double the power input.   

Remember,  this device only works with pulses and in the transient mode realm.   If you just hook up a battery to the track, you can easily see it's nothing special.  The magic really occurs in the realm of ELECTODYANAMICS and transmission line theory.  This means fast short duration pulses.  A great man once said....."create lots of kicks for FAST SEND OFF"  
« Last Edit: February 25, 2008, 08:39:33 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #394 on: February 25, 2008, 12:22:39 AM »
Ok guys,  I'm going to let out a secret   :P

What do you think?

EM

P.S.  The reasoning should be straight forward based on what we have been discussing.  You can buy power combiners for microwave work.  Do they multiply power?  No.   Why and why not?   Do you see the reasoning here.   The input impedance at the signal source is  1/2  z0, where "z0" is the characteristic impedance of the track, say 50 ohms.   We get 1/2 50 ohms since we have the two sections in parallel.

Power in is then: Pin = V^2/25  (for the short duration of the ON pulse, and assuming negligible internal source impedance for the battery/MOSFET circuit)

Now here's the magic.  At the other end, due to the slight taper of the lines as they combine (let's assume we can find a nice taper that minimizes reflections backwards)   the pulses combine and the voltage doubles since each pulse contributes a packet of charge, so double the charge double the voltage.  The T-line is now back to 50 ohms, and let's assume matched load of 50 ohms.

Power out is now:   Pout = (2xV)^2/50 = 4 x  V^2/50 = 2 x V^2/25 = 2 x Pin

You see, double the power input.   

Remember,  this device only works with pulses and in the transient mode realm.   If you just hook up a battery to the track, you can easily see it's nothing special.  The magic really occurs in the realm of ELECTODYANAMICS and transmission line theory.  This means fast short duration pulses.  A great man once said....."create lots of kicks for FAST SEND OFF" 


You never cease to amaze me EM, lol  8)

According to our Hungarian fellow:

"When two waves with identical polarization, frequency, phase and amplitude propagate in the same direction and meet (and merge) in free space, then their amplitudes will add together and the amplitude of the resultant wave will be double that of a single input wave."
AND
"Using sound waves in practice it might be difficult to achieve noteworthy outputs, since the practical limit of energy density is quite low in such arrangements. But using electromagnetic microwaves it is possible to make very efficient, relatively cheap and compact devices, without any moving parts. The output of such generators can vary from several kW to the range of GW depending on the size and types of the components. As you can see, this is a real free energy principle that works, and it has been confirmed by measurements and scientific analysis."

I was personally told about Janos, that he DID FOR SURE have working microwave-based devices and that they had to be VERY precisely built so as to perfectly (as well as could be done) superposition the microwaves. Once done, FE is yours...

So, time and again I thought of microwave-based setups and many other types of setups. I especially thought a lot about longitudinal setups utilizing such waves because there wasn't a 'polarization' that you needed to superposition, like when using transverse waves. (Even that the TPU could very well be working based on these principles)

I was never given enough information that would allow me to replicate Janos's device though, they kept the information closely guarded...

Congrats EM... ;D

Can you explain the mechanism of the tapering and how it minimizes the reflections?

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #395 on: February 25, 2008, 02:50:53 AM »
hi
 CREATED  ELKTROMAGENT FILD   TO MOVE ELKTRONES  IS  VERY SIMPLE ISNT

NOW  SOME EXPLANE
 SM WORDS ...<<dc voltage  whit ac voltage  >>>small dc  v crated  elktromagnt fild  but whit dc   elktromagnet fild  we dont have   transmit the enrgy  to  exit coil  but how  hhmmmm
SM  WORDS  ...<< if you small pieces  12 inch  long  wire and move  very fast small magnet   hmmmmm
HMMMM .. HOW I S POSIBLE  DC  TO CONVERT  ENENRGYTO AC  ..LIKE SIMPLE TRANSFORMER   
WE KNOW THAT SIMPLE TRANSFORMER WORK  IN AC VOLTAGE  BUT

WE KNOW THAT IF WE PUT DC V  TO SIMPLE  WIRE  WE KNOW  THAT THERE  IS MOVE  ELKTRONES  IN ONE  WAY HMMMM
WE HAVE KONTINUES  TRAVELING ELKTRONES IN ONE DIRECTION   REMEMBER THAT <<CONTINUES MOVING ELKTRONES  BUT  HOW THIS  SIMPLE SMAL  LEKTRONES  TO FORCE  TO  PRODUCED  MOVING IN SECONDARY COIL


AND HOW  THIS SMAL ELKTROMAGNET   <<DC>> TO MOVE  ATHER ELKTRONES  TO ATHER WIRE 
and ather dc. elktrmagnet  most be  move fast to ather wire clouse  hmm very fast 

FOR   big tpu    big tpu  has  tesla  primar coil   WHAT IS NEED  TESLA  PRIMAR COIL  WAY 
WHAT THIS COIL PRODUCED   ?hhmm   BIG ELKTROMAGNET FILD  JUST ONE SECOND  HMM
 
AND ATHER  WAY  HIS TPU  IS MAKEING TO SPIN THE COMPASS 

FOR ALL    PEOPLE  I KNOW THE ANSFER      I KNOW   WAY  FIRST VIDEO OF  SM  WHIT SIMPLE  3 VOILT BATERY  IS STARTING  HIS TPU  AND HOW  IS STARTING  AND HOW IS WORK
HA HAHA  SM  EXPLANE VIDEO  WHIT SMALL TPU  WHIT  CONECT THE TV      <<<SAY THIS    CREATED  ELKTROMAGNET FILD  OR  MAGNET FILD  TO MOVE ELKTRONES

FIRST TPU  WHIT BATERY  3 VOLT  HE MAKE ELKTROMAGNET FILD  AND  THEN AHERE  THINGS   
NOW  I KNOW EVERTHING   

ELKTROMAGNET FILD   + COMPASS  ROTATE   + TESLA  PRIMARI COIL   AND VERY IMPORTANT  SMAL  MAGNET 


OPS   BIG TPU  IS NOT NEED MAGNET  SMALL  WAY   WAY WAY  BEACOUSE   THERE IS TESLA PRIMARI COIL  DONT NEED ENY MORE THIS SMPLE MAGNET    FOR  DOING MVING ELKTRONES IN SECONDARY COIL 

IS NOT  MEAN  SECONADRY COIL  MAYBE IS COLECTOR  LIKE  TPU  GENERATOR  FOR DC
VOLTAGE 
REMABER AGAIN WE HAVE CONSTANT MOVING  FORCE THERE  BUT  WE DONT HAVE  TRANSFORM ENRGY  TO SECUNADRY COIL 
                                     HOW TO TRANSFORM THIS  CONSTANT ONE WAY DIRECTION  TO ENRGY
 AND ATHER  FOR BIG TPU  THIS TPU HAS  TWO IN ENRGY 
FIRST  IS SMAL CONSTANT ENRGY  SECOND ENRGY  IS  AGAIN SMALL ENERGY TO PUMP  THE YELOW  BIG CAPS  AND  WHERE IS GOING THIS CAPS HMM   TO TESLA  PRIMAR COIL 

THEN THIS TWO ENERGY  COME  AS LIKE ONE  AND MAKE BIG KICK <<EXPALNE  SM  WHEN  TWO FREKFENCY  COME  AS LIKE ONE  BIG  AND  <<CLAPS  WHIT HIS HANDS>>
  I FORGOT  3 FREKFENCY  <<IS NOT  FREKFENY  THIS IS PICUP COIL HO HAS   DC   VOLTAGE 
FANY THING IS    THIS  TPU  <<  DC PRODUCED  AND TRANSFORM ENRGY  LIKE  TRANFORMER  HMM    >
IS TRUE

 I DONT WHANT TO MAKE ANGRY ENUBODY HERE BUT   I FIND THE TRUE   EVERTHING WHAT  IS  HAVE SEE AND  HEAR OF SM  IS   I HAVE COLECTED  EVERY WORDS HIS  AND  MAKE SIMPLE  WORDS  HO HAS EXPALNE EVERTHING 
IS TRUE  OF SM 
I TELL YOU  FOR ALL HIS TPU  IS VERY IMPORTANT HIS  MAGNET  OR ELKTROMAGNETS 

LOOK   THIS ELKTRMAGNET  OR  SIMPLE  SMALL MPER. MAGNET IS NOT TO  TRANSFORM OR COLECT THAT  ENRGY  <<MAGNETS  OR ELKTROMAGNET >>>
THE ATHER   IS NEED THIS MAGNET ATHER THINGS 
I SEE THERE IS NOT  ELKTRONICS  PARTS  OF SOME OSCILATORS OR SOMTHING

ONLY SOURCE  OF ONE PUSH ENERGY

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #396 on: February 25, 2008, 04:18:44 AM »
Blah...blah...blah...buncha hot air til someone can show everyone how to make even a small unit.  Buncha BS.

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« Reply #397 on: February 25, 2008, 04:50:36 AM »
 [edit..see next post]
« Last Edit: February 25, 2008, 08:44:01 PM by EMdevices »

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« Reply #398 on: February 25, 2008, 07:03:53 AM »
@EM

Cool. Can you use two diodes facing the same way and that meet together off each of the loops? Would that prevent what you described as reflections. Also I remember discussing this before with Roberto about the loops having to push the pulse at dead center.

Also in the LTPU wiring diagram, there is a small rotary pot (or like it) next to the two switches that could have been used to finely balance only one of the two coil sections to be equal to the other.

@MAC

With pulsing DC in my Tesla Erfinder Challenge Project I am getting in the 40 to 90 volts ranges under standard set-up and there is some AC about 3-4 volts. Hmmmmm. It has also given me the idea that the center coils are used to create the inductance required to charge the yellow caps, to then discharge into the primary and feed off the secondary, just as in this project is doing.

@leeroyjenkinsii

No need to blah anyone here. I would think you can change your post to something more palatable.

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« Reply #399 on: February 25, 2008, 11:38:11 AM »
I think macedonia cd is right TPU is a modified tesla coil if you read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil
there are too many similarities with SM suggestions!

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« Reply #400 on: February 25, 2008, 04:26:09 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 06:40:03 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #401 on: February 25, 2008, 05:01:34 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 06:40:22 PM by EMdevices »

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Re: Steven Mark`s TPU
« Reply #402 on: February 25, 2008, 05:29:32 PM »
But is there no need to convert the waves to Longitudinal waves, since electromagnetic waves are transversal waves ?
And what is with different power sources ? Everybody is speaking always of one for both waves.

Converting into longitudinal waves maybe with a circuit like this:

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7909/circuita1il4.png)



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« Reply #403 on: February 25, 2008, 06:30:47 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 05, 2008, 06:41:19 PM by EMdevices »

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« Reply #404 on: February 25, 2008, 06:48:29 PM »
hey EM whats with the  >:( >:( >:( >:(  ???

An education won't help us that much...

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