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Author Topic: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?  (Read 472214 times)

Bulbz

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #195 on: March 19, 2008, 02:46:58 AM »
The point that I want to make is...

If I was to be fortunate enough to succede in making a free energy motor, I would let people (such as Stefan), to come and view it at no cost to them. Charging huge amounts of cash just to see a demonstration is an outrage IMO. I would even give permission for them to dismantle the machine to prove that there is no BS going on behind the scenes.

The bottom line is, if his technology is that good, then why doesn't he sell the machines ready-build ?, instead of asking tremendous amounts of money for a set of scribbles on a piece of paper. The greed in this world, makes my blood boil.

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« Reply #196 on: March 19, 2008, 03:07:02 AM »
Seeing the response that was given to esaruoho should open everyones eyes.

How do you know that the videos they have are made by them?

These could be videos from somebody else and these guys are just using them for their own purposes in making money.  It's very easy to slap an email address at the end of a video and ask for donations.

Don't be gullible guys, STOP SENDING DONNATIONS TO THESE FOLKS.  We don't know who they are and the videos can easily be faked.

EM


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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #197 on: March 19, 2008, 03:11:30 AM »
@nightlife
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As for the pulse motor design, I know for a fact that he could not have produced a over unity motor because the power source is not even being utilized properly. He is doing nothing more the Bedini has done with his motors. Again, he has proven a very efficient device but that’s all it is.
Show me a real picture of anything you have actually built yourself and tested that even runs then we will talk about facts---until then your just blowing hot air.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #198 on: March 19, 2008, 03:18:39 AM »


Don't be gullible guys, STOP SENDING DONNATIONS TO THESE FOLKS.  We don't know who they are and the videos can easily be faked.

EM

Hi EM,
you are right,
we even don?t know,if this "John" guy is really related to the Timothy Thrapp
"ministry group" or if it is just someone
who used this video and his email address to collect fraudulent donations !

So please everybody don?t send cash or donations that way.
Just wait until they come again forward with more real evidence.

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #199 on: March 19, 2008, 03:25:24 AM »
heh, seems like i caught john online, as have traded a few emails with him now.. kinda.
anyway, i mailed him asking to purchase dvds, they said they dont sell dvds anymore, they post them online - and hinted they would post more if someone donated. well, i sent something since i happened to have it, out of my own judgement (and money). they, after a while, received it (i sent in EUR). they replied with "Hello Esa, We have 3 videos posted now, on utube. You are welcome to download them if you know how. Please make a donation, and we will post more. God bless you for your help!". i immediately replied with "i already have seen them and downloaded them. i was hoping the donation i already sent would mean you would post more." they replied with "OK, Yes Thank u! Yes! We will post more. But please be patient it took 4 years to get the volunteers to put up these 3. We can not push volunteers."  to which i immediately replied "i volunteer. i have all the required tools to takea  DVD-R and produce a digital video file of it. i can chop a DVD to any number of slices, and youtube can handle less than 10minute slices so i know how to create those slices out of provided material. please let me help you.".
 i reckon that was the right response, i am, after all, a volunteer and would be quite happy to assist them in digitizing their material. in theory, this should result in "yes we will send you a dvd and please let us know when it has been digitized". i hope so. the other avenue is to actually get in touch with james a. robey, and ask if i could purchase the witts DVD from him directly, or a copy of, in order to see if there is more to it than the less than 1 0minute youtube videos - i have a feeling none of the videos are longer than 11 minutes long, on that DVD, very doubtful, like.
and so it continues. 31st of march comes closer, sterling d. allan i suppose is getting ready to interviewing them, and so forth.

ok, i see james a.robey is looking for donations to waterfuelmuseum - i mailed him just now to ask him if he would accept a 50/50  donation/thrapp dvd-loan.
lets see what can happen.

Hi Esa,
many thanks for this info.
You donated 80 Euros in good faith and before you did this they promised you to post more videos to youtube,
so it sounded as they would have no problems with it to post more videos soon.

and now they use these excuses that they are unable to do it by themself...Hmmm,
makes you go more.... Hmmmmmmmm....

Well everybody don?t send any donations until we hear more of them.
Maybe they still need some more days to assemble a few new videos
via a volunteer, but then let us wait and see, if they will really come forward
with more and maybe also wait, until Sterling has posted the Interview with Mr.Thrapp.

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« Reply #200 on: March 19, 2008, 03:26:38 AM »
when i replied with the volunteer, they immediately asked if im in the states, gave me the phonenumber to thrapp, and told me to either call him or  me tell them my phonenumber so they can call me. when i volunteered, it appears that something switched in the dynamics of this conversation. since i told them im in scandinavia, they said : "OK, The issue there is how to get the DVDs to you. I know we can ship them, but overseas shipping is expensive. You have any suggestions?"  to which i responded with two: sending them to my mate who can send them onwards to me.. or, me paying for the postage.
i suppose there is going to be an answer to this message too.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #201 on: March 19, 2008, 03:26:40 AM »

To be accurate, none of us really know very much about the nature and utilization of energy...only dead guys know anything.

We should all be careful not to dismiss concepts solely because to us it will not work...especially when we already know that there is so much unknown to us.

I like to let things develop naturally...sometimes even a wacky idea can spark a great idea.

Regards...


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« Reply #202 on: March 19, 2008, 03:56:55 AM »
nope hartiberlin, i donated 54.32eur in good faith which translates to 80$ due to the dollar going rate. NOT 80eur. reckon they'd be well happy if i had given them almost 160$.

Their response, as posted, was that they will get a volunteer to upload  - and that it has taken time to get one to do it, to which i immediately voluntarily offered my own services (HandBrakeCLI is a good little program, been using it heaps now in digitization processes).

now i'm waiting for a response to see if they would rather send DVDs to my mate (for him to send them to me), or if i can help them with the postage of sending me the DVDs which they would like digitized and posted on youtube. either way, i'm still waiting to see what can happen. i believe if they really are interested in posting more videos on youtube, and i give them a way of doing it easily, that they will jump at it. if not, there's still the james a. robey  DVD -- waiting for him to respond.

Hi Esa, many thanks for this info. You donated 80 Euros in good faith and before you did this they promised you to post more videos to youtube, so it sounded as they would have no problems with it to post more videos soon. and now they use these excuses that they are unable to do it by themself...Hmmm, makes you go more.... Hmmmmmmmm.... Well everybody don?t send any donations until we hear more of them. Maybe they still need some more days to assemble a few new videos via a volunteer, but then let us wait and see, if they will really come forward  with more and maybe also wait, until Sterling has posted the Interview with Mr.Thrapp.

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« Reply #203 on: March 19, 2008, 03:58:03 AM »
allcanadian, hot air?

 Come on now, first of all I am only here to try and help and I have done a few things along the way to test a few theory?s that have been posted. I am building a pulse motor and I will post it after it is done.

 First of all, over unity is impossible because energy is energy. You cant make energy but you can collect energy and or release energy from substances that have accumulated and stored energy and or that naturally release energy. I will be doing a experiment on this concept as soon as I figure out what I need to use. I will doing it by using different fragrances. Stronger fragrances put off very vibrant vibrations and we can tell because we can smell them. We detect the vibrations they put off with our nose hairs and then they send the vibration to our brains and our brains detect the different vibrations and that is how we can tell the difference between fragrances. the same can be said with what we hear.

 I am a thinker and I devote all my time to thinking, which may get me devoiced, LOL. Every since I came across this forum, I have honestly devoted much of my time to research. I am a problem solver by trade and I will admit this is a bit out of my league based on my limited knowledge of physics but I feel that I have a good sense of common sense in which has lead to where I am today. I have a lot to learn but that does not mean that my thoughts should be over looked and or thought to be senseless.

 If I have said something that does not make sense, then by all means please tell me but please note that I will do the same.

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« Reply #204 on: March 19, 2008, 04:09:55 AM »
@Esa,
what is a "James a. robey  DVD"  ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #205 on: March 19, 2008, 04:16:42 AM »
@Esa,
what is a "James a. robey  DVD"  ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

interesting. well, i've got a treat for you, stefan. go to
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WaterFuelMuseum/blog/2007/09/29/timothy
see on the right theres a player, press STOP in that.  see on the left theres a description of a show featuring timothy thrapp. press play.

if you take the time to listen to ALL 1 hours of it, you will notice, just as i did, that  thrapp/WITTS have sent a DVD to James A. Robey which shows a few of their devices. it appears that it is possible that the DVD is not only the 3 videos on YouTube. since i value what James A. Robey (of http://www.waterFuelMuseum.org fame) does, what with interviewing Dale Pond and Timothy Thrapp, and the others which i havent listened to, yeah, and if he is willing to part with the DVD he got sent by Thrapp/WITTS for my digitization , i would be more than keen to just donate him the postage costs and some extra  for his blogtalk radio ventures.


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« Reply #206 on: March 19, 2008, 04:40:46 AM »
Overunity is possible and we see it every day.  Electrons, protons and neutrons orbit around a nucleus of every atom in every molecule in the universe and they are not slowing down.  My desk here is made up of billions of such things and I did not put any energy into them at all.  I am getting a lot of energy out of them, for free...so how is this NOT overunity?

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« Reply #207 on: March 19, 2008, 05:08:03 AM »
Pirate88179, lets stick with reality as well as what can be proven apposed to what cant.

 A movement can not be made with out another movement taking place first. The movement can not be made to create more energy then the energy used to move it.

 Be careful with magical electrons. They are said to be solids that flow thru other solids. LOL

 Be sure to listen to the talk show posted by esaruoho, it talks a bit about the earth battery and I think you would take interest in it. I will post it in the earth battery thread too.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WaterFuelMuseum/blog/2007/09/29/timothy

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« Reply #208 on: March 19, 2008, 05:32:14 AM »
Be sure to listen to the talk show posted by esaruoho, it talks a bit about the earth battery and I think you would take interest in it. I will post it in the earth battery thread too.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WaterFuelMuseum/blog/2007/09/29/timothy

now please be sure that whenever you give that url to someone, that yuo tell them (so that they dont wast etheir time) that the first sound coming from the webpage is not the thrapp interview. the sound is the newest interview conducted by mr. robey, and you have to press PLAY on the thrapp interview  on the left for it to start.  i had 3 people go through some pantone/geet / waterfuel interview before i realized that they weren't responding to anything that thrapp was saying, and they weren't  because they hadnt actually heard the thrapp interview!! :)
weird.

anyway yeah theres quite a bit about stubblefield earthbattery and the stubblefield parabolic mirrors, and hydroxy boosters, radiant energy boosters  and their forthcoming website and  how he got started etc. i'd love for there to be a continuing "thing" on the  31st march  sterling d. allan  interview. lets see.

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« Reply #209 on: March 19, 2008, 06:32:09 AM »
Pirate88179, lets stick with reality as well as what can be proven apposed to what cant.

 A movement can not be made with out another movement taking place first. The movement can not be made to create more energy then the energy used to move it.

 

Nightlife

Yes  lets stick   with reality and what can be proven

How  can you prove that   movement can't be made   without  another  movement taking place first?

Are  you  trying to tell us that nothing in the universe is moving?

It seems to me that  something  created   the  original motion in the universe

I can't  think  of a single thing in the universe that is not moving

The  entire   universe is in constant motion and according to quantum physics it is all energy .




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