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Author Topic: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?  (Read 474490 times)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #180 on: March 15, 2008, 04:46:28 AM »
I think the caps are important.  (In my personal view anyway),

Then again, theories should come after the experiment. ;)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #181 on: March 15, 2008, 01:01:25 PM »
ok, i listened to the whole interview, twice, and have been saving markers  in soundforge for it, to chop it into bits. i also wrote a bit down, but either i'll write the whole lot down (which is a bit of work), or just share the bits i wrote down (which are sporadic), with mates (which i've done). after this, i got in touch with WITTS by emailing them, i asked them for a list of dvds, and if they still do sell them for 30.00$ or 50.00$ donation each. heres a couple of responses i got, im sure they're fine with me posting it here: ive put the bits you might care about in bold..
"Dear Esa,
We decided to post the dvds for free on you tube, please send a donation and watch them there.
 Please pray about what God would have you do to help, then do it! If we, as a people work together, We can accomplish anything!
Sir Timothy and Gods team have developed technologies that are ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! But We need help to get these into manufacturing."
then i mailed them back, chopping that sentence in bold, into bits, and asked them, straight up "does this mean that if i donate money, you will post more videos on youtube?". they responded with
"Yes, Send us a donation please? We plan to post more!"

so i, as a musician, decided to donate to them and see what happens. i sent them 80$ (since lately i've been purchasing so many dvds that ive got 14 new ones, and the next one i wanna buy is   The Garbage Warrior  ( http://www.garbagewarrior.com/ ) , and obviously the howard johnson EFTV4 dvd)))), and now im just waiting for it to be claimed by them via paypal, and see if they really will post stuff.
if they odnt, i dont mind, the research they have done already (see the interview) over decades  is, in a widescreen way, helping things.

anyway, it was a very interesting interview, and now sterling d allan has heard it too, i hope he will thus be able to re-arrange his questions in such a way as to be able to dig up some more details  and some more knowledge (thrapp strikes me as a person i would love to talk with about reich, russell, keely, stubblefield and moray.  or physically attend his   dominant energy classes).   i hope robert j. robey will also do interview#2 with him, because the wide angle that they had in the 1 hour interview was, well, staggering, if nothing else.

what wealth there is available for those who will seek..

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #182 on: March 15, 2008, 04:50:42 PM »
Dr. Greer has a program that can put this into the hands of the public...$200k up front and $5M in two years for royalties....I guess this isn't enough though.

http://www.disclosureproject.com/

BREAKING NEWS: AERO Announces award program offering $200,000 up-front and $5 million minimum two year royalty for working, replicable device. Read More

Advanced Energy Research Organization (AERO), Inc. is a new research and development group formed to develop and strategically protect new energy and propulsion technologies. It is our goal, utilizing a unique strategic approach, to bring forth these new environmentally sound technologies to replace virtually all fossil fuel, internal combustion and ionizing nuclear technologies within 20-30 years.

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world; indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

- Margaret Mead, anthropologist


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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #183 on: March 15, 2008, 05:27:24 PM »
SO..... AERO is also on the 20-30 year program    Chet    PS I agree completely with your quote from Margaret Mead

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #184 on: March 15, 2008, 05:57:09 PM »
 :)

i have an idea ....

hell with AERO...   LETS MAKE IT  2-3 months not years.....   no time for years to waste.......  is 100 years not enough wasted time ??

why do u all think i give my hard work away..... FOR FREE 4 ALL ;)

here i will tell you all    WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME !!!!![/u WAY TOO FAST!!!

GET WITH THE PROGRAM ALREADY....

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #185 on: March 15, 2008, 07:48:05 PM »
Well your timing is good [for your purposes]  we call this a sucker punch where I come from    Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #186 on: March 15, 2008, 08:54:34 PM »
did anyone catch that  james a. robey (i keep getting his name wrong) interview of timothy thrapp where he mentions having visited daniel dingel?
in fact, did anyone even listen to the whole 1hour interview?
« Last Edit: March 16, 2008, 11:16:10 AM by esaruoho »

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #187 on: March 15, 2008, 09:03:28 PM »
Yes  and i can't wait for the next one Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #188 on: March 16, 2008, 11:19:59 AM »
ok, so, has anyone done any comparisons between the 35 watt fuelless self-runner and the 900watt fuelless self-runner, please?

it was mentioned that the 35watt one is a previous research and development object, and the 900watt is a more perfect version.

could anyone analyze what has changed between these two devices, please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkBNzXPy_p4 35watt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fR3vBB1Yn0 900watt
35watt:
World Improvement Through The Spirit Ministries is showing a delay line generator motor starting with a pack of 9 volt batteries in series. It shows the voltage rising from 713 volts to 728 volts after starting with approximately .05 amps average current or 35 watts being generated & utilized.

A conventional generator motor would be dropping the voltage in the battery pack after starting.

Then a capacitor is added and the batteries are disconnected totally so that the delay line generator motor is self generating, self turning as well as supplying electricity to the fluorescent tubes. The device is over 20 years old and as such provided the basis for higher output more sophisticated devices such as the - Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator.

There is no harmful radiation and it is converting zero point energy with no external power source needed after starting!
900watt:
World Improvement Through The Spirit Ministries showing initial activation & then a self-running electrical motor generator combination with 900 net watts output. This is a result of studying the pioneers such as Tesla, Moray, Hendershot and 20 years of work by a team of top scientists along with several million in R & D.

anyone?

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #189 on: March 16, 2008, 03:32:12 PM »
ESA your time line analysis  is logical for the info presented to date    and  I hope more usefull info comes foward  witth additional interviews   Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #190 on: March 16, 2008, 09:51:05 PM »
@ Eniac5state,dont you have any thing better to do ?, back in the thread you gave a very strong impression you know how this machine works and left it at that, how about share your greatness with the rest of us and show us your plans etc ?, or do you really not know but just like to say so ?.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #191 on: March 19, 2008, 01:01:31 AM »
I did only get one email from them so far
and they did not further communicate with me.

Hmm, is anybody else with them in contact and has received
more informations so far ?

Also they did not post any other videos yet as was promised..

I would advise to wait and don?t do any donations until they
come forward with more infos.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2008, 03:20:19 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #192 on: March 19, 2008, 02:08:19 AM »
b0rg13, we were discussing this topic on another thread and you brought something to my attention that I was unaware of and that was the utilization of the meter probes as a way to connect and disconnect a power source.

 This how ever does not have much bearing on the device we were talking about as does the sphere it's self as well as it's source of power.

 The sphere it's self will bounce vibrations around and it will create a compression of those vibrations creating a heat and the longer they are compressed, the hotter it will get to the point where the vibrations can not get any more vibrant. That would be were the temperature would top off. The you have to add the efficiency of the power source and you end up with a very efficient device that becomes close to 100% efficient. This means it will last for a long time but not forever. If it was 100% efficient, it would run for ever and if the battery would have been disconnected, you would have found the device to cool down and not continue to produce heat.

 As for the pulse motor design, I know for a fact that he could not have produced a over unity motor because the power source is not even being utilized properly. He is doing nothing more the Bedini has done with his motors. Again, he has proven a very efficient device but that?s all it is.

 One thing we have to remember is that energy is never lost and it only diminishes as it spreads out. These devices as well as others like them are only preserving more of the energy then actually diminishes. They are keeping the energy in a loop with very little escaping making them very efficient.

 I talked of how over unity could be produced by modifying these designs but honestly, over unity is impossible to achieve because of power sources being involved. Magnets hold a power source that we have not been able to properly utilize and I think I have figured out why. I have studied every pulse motor I could find and I have yet to see one of them utilize what I hope mine to be able to. If it works, it would look as if it is a over unity motor but in actuality, it wouldn't be because the magnets are a power source like battery's are.

 Just as if we were to collect energy from thin air. We could not think of it as a way to produce over unity because of the energy that the air holds. The air would be like a battery just as earth battery's. We can extract energy from the earth but it can not be considered over unity because the earths energy it holds like a battery.

 Big money has taken advantage of us by not backing more efficient motors that would cost very little to operate. All electrical motors could be utilized better then they are and made to be close to 100% efficient if they all utilized back Elf?s. They say that DC currents are not pulsed but they have to be and we just must not have the technology to detect the pulses they have. AC is a pulsed DC which we can detect as well as we could utilize the back ELF from the pulses. We are wasting energy with the way we use electricity as well as faucal fuels. Even faucal fuels could be utilized much better then they are and to think we have wasted all that we have just makes me sick and makes me believe that those who sell it, should be imprisoned and or at least not to be allowed to have any part in selling natural resources. I am sure they all know what they are doing as well as they don?t want us to know why they do things the way they do. They are greedy and they want to rule the world and we will all see soon enough how their tactics have been being played out since the days of Hitler.
 They already know everything but they will not share it with us because they feel superior and to good to have to be put down to the average level.

 I want nothing more then to make things fair and equal for all and that is why I am here. I don't want to debunk anyone?s devices but at the same time, I don?t want people wasting their time on frauds and deceptions that others try and post.

 We must stay focused on efficiency more so then over unity because over unity is impossible to achieve.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #193 on: March 19, 2008, 02:28:30 AM »
Please do not send any money to these folks, not because the technology does not work, just out of principle.

When you send a DONATION, you can't sue them if what they have is revealed to be fake.  They did not sell you anything, you just donated to a cause.  It's an ingenious way to bring about free energy devices, but it requires a trust that needs to be earned first.   

The videos do not earn enough trust to send money, in my opinion.  That is because they can easily be faked.  A live demonstration perhaps can earn more trust, but then again everybody has their own levels of trust.  Besides, when you donate to a ministry you want to hear progress reports how the money are spend, or perhaps be a board member and participate in the discussions.  Just sending money encourages laziness and fraud.

Update:

I've been away for a few days and I'm still working on the motor.  I still believe  :)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #194 on: March 19, 2008, 02:40:35 AM »
heh, seems like i caught john online, as have traded a few emails with him now.. kinda.
anyway, i mailed him asking to purchase dvds, they said they dont sell dvds anymore, they post them online - and hinted they would post more if someone donated. well, i sent something since i happened to have it, out of my own judgement (and money). they, after a while, received it (i sent in EUR). they replied with "Hello Esa, We have 3 videos posted now, on utube. You are welcome to download them if you know how. Please make a donation, and we will post more. God bless you for your help!". i immediately replied with "i already have seen them and downloaded them. i was hoping the donation i already sent would mean you would post more." they replied with "OK, Yes Thank u! Yes! We will post more. But please be patient it took 4 years to get the volunteers to put up these 3. We can not push volunteers."  to which i immediately replied "i volunteer. i have all the required tools to takea  DVD-R and produce a digital video file of it. i can chop a DVD to any number of slices, and youtube can handle less than 10minute slices so i know how to create those slices out of provided material. please let me help you.".
 i reckon that was the right response, i am, after all, a volunteer and would be quite happy to assist them in digitizing their material. in theory, this should result in "yes we will send you a dvd and please let us know when it has been digitized". i hope so. the other avenue is to actually get in touch with james a. robey, and ask if i could purchase the witts DVD from him directly, or a copy of, in order to see if there is more to it than the less than 1 0minute youtube videos - i have a feeling none of the videos are longer than 11 minutes long, on that DVD, very doubtful, like.
and so it continues. 31st of march comes closer, sterling d. allan i suppose is getting ready to interviewing them, and so forth.

ok, i see james a.robey is looking for donations to waterfuelmuseum - i mailed him just now to ask him if he would accept a 50/50  donation/thrapp dvd-loan.
lets see what can happen.