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Author Topic: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?  (Read 472223 times)

esaruoho

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #165 on: March 14, 2008, 02:15:18 PM »
A general question about the RV setup.
Wouldn't it make more sense to use this tech to make a really efficient motor to drive a really efficient generator? I would say, for the moment, stop trying to harvest the circulating current and just use it where it is at. I am curious as to what the gains in efficiency would be on the motor and what impact the connected generator would have on the motors performance (drag, current consumption etc...) when loaded. I would think this strategy would allow us to take a step in the right direction, more efficient power production while we work on the issue of harvesting the circulating current.

this is exactly what the point is, two have a motor, and a generator. get them into sync, etc. people are moving towards this, and it has been recommended, suggested and done many times. they have DC motors running AC mtors, etc. its all in http://panaceauniversity.org/Chapter2.pdf..  check further in the PDF and you'll see a few  "gen-motor" or "gen-alternator" setups :)

as every persons motor that they run is slightly different, the setups will vary wildly, thus, its not anymore the point to  sit on a chair and ask for the efficiency metering measurements, and then demand clarifications and corrections, instead of  doing it yourself, cos your motor will work differently.
again, i recommend this threaD:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/1507-roto-verter.html

anyway, my internet has been shut down due to unpaid bills (im at a netcafe), and i will really, truly, hopefully,  today finally get to listen to the WITTS interview. in fact, thanks for reminding me, i'll mail t he waterfuelmuseum guy  and ask if he could do a second interview. that'd be great, wouldnt it? :)

have fun list!

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #166 on: March 14, 2008, 02:25:40 PM »
At first I thought these people wanted to help the world but apparently they are doing another SM....these remarkable technologies will be hidden again.

And.....crude hit a new high of $110....keep hiding it.   My new toy just went from 38' to 42' and maybe upgraded engines as well....

Rich

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #167 on: March 14, 2008, 02:44:07 PM »
At first I thought these people wanted to help the world but apparently they are doing another SM....these remarkable technologies will be hidden again.
And.....crude hit a new high of $110....keep hiding it.   My new toy just went from 38' to 42' and maybe upgraded engines as well....
Rich

have you extracted the reactive power in the rotoverter circuit yet? :)


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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #168 on: March 14, 2008, 03:04:25 PM »
The only way I see it even having a chance at working is to match the load to the output.  I've ordered heat coil wire and will build a heater element to match the best tuned output of my unit.  If it works, it works....if not, it doesn't.  This will be my last attempt at experimentation with the unit.  The picture of the high wattage bulb being driven by the rotoverter was no where near full brightness, don't believe that one.  IMO, the camera would have been damaged photographing that bulb if it were at full brightness.

Rich

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #169 on: March 14, 2008, 03:05:35 PM »
i will really, truly, hopefully,  today finally get to listen to the WITTS interview. in fact, thanks for reminding me, i'll mail t he waterfuelmuseum guy  and ask if he could do a second interview. that'd be great, wouldnt it? :)

ok, i've mailed waterfuelmuseum interviewer guy. i also noticed that the Timothy Thrapp interview was from 29th September 2007.

so here's a rudimentary timeline:

(x to y) random mentions of timothy thrapp suppression and being-put-to-jail  on rense.com etc, from keelynet, etc,  his name varies from Tim Trapp to Tim Thrapp to Timothy Thrapp (http://www.rense.com/general72/oinvent.htm rense.com article which mentions tim trapp as being jailed in arizona) (these posts from Jerry Decker  notify that 2001 and 1997 were active years)
2001.09.21 Sterling D. Allan creates http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/WITs/index.html -page, which lists, amongst their achievements: "*  Gravity motor * Engines that run on water * Radiant Energy devices (solid state or mechanical) * Inertial propulsion devices * Pollution remediation". Much talk about money. (Around 100 functioning technologies claimed to be for sale.)
2006.June - July Dr. Trapp calls Gary Vesperman (of PESWiki) three times (June 24, July 1, July 4), and accompanies this contact with emails that provide more details to the activities of the company/ministry, and their suppression history. The article starts with '''Dr. Timothy Trapp: 127 Energy Technologies'''. "Currently employing 11 scientists, WITS has been active in producing, installing and servicing free energy systems worldwide for 19 years. Dr. Trapp and the two non-profits have developed over 127 energy technologies. Approximately 20 utilize cracking water into oxygen and hydrogen, approximately 14 are gravity motors, approximately 50 are radiant energy machines, and the remaining are miscellaneous energy, propulsion and pollution remediation devices." "127 energy technologies are currently commercially available, including large-scale over-unity power plants ? 5 megawatts and up. Many of these power plants are under construction in foreign countries but not in the United States due to suppression by the U.S. Government. WITS also makes and sells a device for 30 dollars that can be added to any electrical system that has batteries which would drastically increase the efficiency of that system (e.g. cell phone, radio, electric car)."
"When Dr. Trapp moved back from Alaska, upon arrival, the shipping container containing his tools, equipment, etc., had been emptied. In spring 2001, Trapp?s lab in Arizona was raided. At the end of 2001 two WITS scientist assistants were (and currently still are) in Ohio prison on trumped up drug charges." "In the past 20 years the U.S. Government has destroyed over 14 WITTS laboratories. As recently as spring 2006 a WITTS laboratory burned to the ground. The contents of each laboratory contained millions of dollars worth of equipment and several costly free energy machines. Dr. Trapp?s laboratories were raided, his equipment was smashed, and his people were beaten and arrested numerous times on false charges. False evidence was planted many times."  oo-er, looks like im running out of time here at the internetcafe, so the rest of that post is on http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:World_Improvement_Through_The_Spirit_Ministries. i'll chop it into the timeline when i have the time.
2007.09.29 Timothy Thrapp interviewed by James A. Robey of WaterFuelMuseum (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WaterFuelMuseum/blog/2007/09/29/timothy)
2007.12.16 Overunity.com user notices a googlevideo posted by Timothy Thrapp, (which was later removed, AGAIN I ASK: HAS ANYONE ARCHIVED THIS? PLEASE POST IT.)
2007.12.30 Timothy Thrapp / Wits2014 joins YouTube
2008.01.20 Wits2014 posts "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator!" (http://youtube.com/watch?v=8fR3vBB1Yn0) (desc: showing initial activation & then a self-running electrical motor generator combination with 900 net watts output. This is a result of studying the pioneers such as Tesla, Moray, Hendershot and 20 years of work by a team of top scientists along with several million in R & D.)
2008.02.28 Wits2014 posts "Worlds's Most Efficient Overunity Water Heater" (http://youtube.com/watch?v=06iCfowinUM) (desc:showing the world's most efficient overunity ultrasonic water heater. A stainless steel sphere with 1.7 gallons of water starts at 101 degrees F and rises to 184 degrees F in two minutes from 1.62 watts input from a 9 volt battery supplying .18 amps. Normally 1.7 US gallons of water would require 10,296 watts of energy at 100% efficiency to be raised from 101 to 184 degrees F in 2 minutes. This is super efficient at over 6000 X more heat from the input of electricity. There are no catalysts, heavy water or other exotic materials required as in cold fusion and no harmful radiation is released. The stimulus for this research & development was John Keely's Sympathetic Vibratory Physics using frequencies in combination with shapes of materials. )
2008.03.05 Sterling D. Allan starts a PESWiki page on Wits. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:World_Improvement_Through_The_Spirit_Ministries
2008.03.06 Wits2014 posts "Self Running 35 Watt Delay Line Generator!" (http://youtube.com/watch?v=CkBNzXPy_p4) (desc: showing a delay line generator motor starting with a pack of 9 volt batteries in series. It shows the voltage rising from 713 volts to 728 volts after starting with approximately .05 amps average current or 35 watts being generated & utilized. A conventional generator motor would be dropping the voltage in the battery pack after starting. Then a capacitor is added and the batteries are disconnected totally so that the delay line generator motor is self generating, self turning as well as supplying electricity to the fluorescent tubes. The device is over 20 years old and as such provided the basis for higher output more sophisticated devices such as the - Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator. There is no harmful radiation and it is converting zero point energy with no external power source needed after starting!)


... and now we are waiting for more. :)

2008.03.31 Sterling Allan will be conducting an intreview with Timothy Thrapp.
"*On March 31, 2008, from 2:00 - 2:55 pm Central time, {{SDA}} will conduct a live interview with Timothy Thrapp as part of the Free Energy Now radio series."

so i'll be listening to both of them back to back with the videos and see what happens then :)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #170 on: March 14, 2008, 03:36:21 PM »
have mailed wits2011 and wits2014 with a description and a request for a DVD-list, as I'll be purchasing as many DVDs as they have on offer (upon delivery of my EP, i'll get roughly 444usd).

now i'll go home and listen to the radio interview :)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #171 on: March 14, 2008, 03:39:49 PM »
The only way I see it even having a chance at working is to match the load to the output.  I've ordered heat coil wire and will build a heater element to match the best tuned output of my unit.  If it works, it works....if not, it doesn't.  This will be my last attempt at experimentation with the unit.  The picture of the high wattage bulb being driven by the rotoverter was no where near full brightness, don't believe that one.  IMO, the camera would have been damaged photographing that bulb if it were at full brightness. Rich

its very strange that you do not address the "extracting the reactive power" question. of course you are allowed to do anything you want with the device, but it is strange that first you verify that there is Reactive Power running, then you say it cant be extracted, then when provided links to a discussion and a PDF with  some reactive power recovery circuits... nothing happens. weird :)
are you not open to reactive power recovery? :)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #172 on: March 14, 2008, 04:14:53 PM »
I may not be knowledgeable enough to pursue that line of experimentation.  People much more intelligent than myself  have tried and from what I've read have not succeeded.  I've read recovery material and I only know of one that stated he could sustain a self running rotoverter and I don't know that anyone verified his system.  But, imo he was only pounding a battery with a high voltage spikes which equates to a battery charger much like Bedini's circuits.  Upon my initial reading of the rv it lead you to believe you had straight over unity power that was capable of doing real work, but it is not that simple.

If the claims of high efficiency were true, then you should be able to couple a typical generator head to a well tuned rv and it would be self running with the help of an inverter.....several have tried and no one has made it happen.  I bought a 1k generator and tore it apart to try a direct coupling but my unit's rotor was part of the crankshaft so it was not possible to use without a lot of unnecessary drag.   I read some were trying a pm generator instead of a electrically magnetized rotor, never heard of anyone getting anywhere with that one either.  But we are only talking a 100 watts or so to magnetize the rotor so with all the supposed o/u left in the rv numbers that should not even make a difference.  A lot of what you read concerning the rv is bs.  It isn't that we don't try....it just doesn't seem to work.  If someone has made it work in a true self running mode, they are not coming forward. 



The circuit as described in the pdf file will not work in o/u with the rv, I ran that circuit probably six months ago in numerous different load variations.  Everything equalled basically the load plus 1,100 watts.

Anyway, I'm just over the rv but the heat extraction seems to show the most promise to me.  Until you really start digging into some of these experiments and throwing thousands of your own dollars and lord knows how many hours of your personal time, it's easy to give advice but a lot of us already know the outcome.  Just like that guy with the weighted, high speed wheels driving a generator.  His energy was simply stored in the spinning wheels...no magic.  If you ran a piece of power equipment long enough that outpulled his drive motor then the stored energy was depleted in the spinning wheels which drove the generator head.  Many people got upset because a few of us stated what it was...we all want o/u but it needs to be real and not smoke and mirrors.  I have some capabilities but apparently not enough yet to make a functional device.  I get frustrated at the people like SM and now WITS.....they have the technology and it will never see the light of day.

And in case someone thinks I'm serious about having a '42 boat....ain't happening.  I have no investment in the petroleum industry and live the life of a redneck.

Rich

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #173 on: March 14, 2008, 07:59:01 PM »
Did I miss something last I heard  Stephan was waiting for a reply from John  [WITT] regarding an interview    Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #174 on: March 14, 2008, 11:55:50 PM »
To come back on the original subject, the 900 watt generator. The capacitorbank is not used for
resonance at all. An average motor coil is about 0.7 Hy. To get to 100 Hz one needs a capacitor of
3,5 uF. And that box is full of capacitors. That should give a big clue. Don't let people get you down
by saying it costs 1000's of dollars to develop because that's work of mindless ignorants.
Statement:
Months later, when you know the principles, I tell you that on the 9 pages of this thread, the complete
description is given ! In other words; you have all of the ingredients and you are unable to make the
bread. Now that is very sad for pre 1920's technology. ???  Are you so boxed in ? So enslaved by
manipulative schooling ? Come on, stop your emotions, do as German scientist and crack it.
I predict you; you will hit yourselves by not seeing it's already complete on these pages !


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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #175 on: March 15, 2008, 12:20:32 AM »
ENIAC please no bread crumbs to the trail      Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #176 on: March 15, 2008, 12:28:46 AM »
To come back on the original subject, the 900 watt generator. The capacitorbank is not used for
resonance at all. An average motor coil is about 0.7 Hy. To get to 100 Hz one needs a capacitor of
3,5 uF. And that box is full of capacitors. That should give a big clue. Don't let people get you down
by saying it costs 1000's of dollars to develop because that's work of mindless ignorants.
Statement:
Months later, when you know the principles, I tell you that on the 9 pages of this thread, the complete
description is given ! In other words; you have all of the ingredients and you are unable to make the
bread. Now that is very sad for pre 1920's technology. ???  Are you so boxed in ? So enslaved by
manipulative schooling ? Come on, stop your emotions, do as German scientist and crack it.
I predict you; you will hit yourselves by not seeing it's already complete on these pages !


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you act like you know just how to build this already , so why dont you show us how, or do you really have no idea ?.are you here to help or just give hints and nothing more like a lot of other people here.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #177 on: March 15, 2008, 12:57:42 AM »
I would like to see a full explanation for how this thing works, warts and all.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #178 on: March 15, 2008, 01:18:15 AM »
Well no warts for me thankyou   Im in Amish country for a few days   I know an Amish fellow     who knows ?  no stone left unturned         Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #179 on: March 15, 2008, 01:45:45 AM »
Quote


The capacitorbank is not used forresonance at all.
 An average motor coil is about 0.7 Hy. To get to 100 Hz one needs a capacitor of
3,5 uF. And that box is full of capacitors.
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To the best of my knowledge an average motor does NOT  generate  900 watts of free energy.

The  motor  does not look  like an average motor at all to me .

It  looks to me  like it  has 4  VERY large coils .

Personaly  I  think it might take a box of caps   to reach resonance.


gary