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Author Topic: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?  (Read 472229 times)

tadejstenta

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #435 on: January 24, 2010, 10:43:22 PM »
fatbird
if I want to work on the basis of conspiracy, i just hire a few "suspicious" cooworkers and Voila  here it goes .... never ending story

all
my thinking is, that this is based on rotoverter system: no magnets in generator , bank of capacitors, electronics took electric, Variac on start ,....
only diference from the original RV, is self built generator, Which can be modified three phase motor (no magnets)

but thats my thinking, and if it works as they said than its one good thing for all of us.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #436 on: January 24, 2010, 11:36:32 PM »
fatbird
if I want to work on the basis of conspiracy, i just hire a few "suspicious" cooworkers and Voila  here it goes .... never ending story

all
my thinking is, that this is based on rotoverter system: no magnets in generator , bank of capacitors, electronics took electric, Variac on start ,....
only diference from the original RV, is self built generator, Which can be modified three phase motor (no magnets)

but thats my thinking, and if it works as they said than its one good thing for all of us.

I think that our problem is not thinking clear here (regardless of my opinion that is another hoax) - when he said "... no magnets..." - doesn't mean no magnet fields there (brushes can bring electricity to the coils) - OR maybe they "found" the way to take energy combining electricity & gravity (without magnet field ?!?).
Anyway - IMO - if we like to reach OU - we have to find a way to combine all three (G&M&E).

Thanks,

Dragan

   

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #437 on: January 26, 2010, 01:39:51 AM »
Hi guys of overunity.com !  :)
I was for a "visit" on their website now,and leaved to them a message >

"Hi guys !
Seems good work.But I`am not sure if you are a bunch of scamers or true Energy leaders. Have a look at this website >
www.overunity.com
They have a great price for the one/s who
give to the world energy freedom.
And if your work is true and you wish to sincerely help our planet,than I wish
you good progress. < this was the mesage and the subject: Overunity-Price .

Let`s see if they will come here for discusions.  ;)

4Tesla

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #438 on: January 26, 2010, 08:35:24 AM »
@Peculian

Welcome to the forum!

4Tesla

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #439 on: January 26, 2010, 12:35:20 PM »
@all,
no cigar for this one, it doesnt work.
Sorry, I have a lot of knowledge of this device and people who have seen it in person.
Sorry to blow you bubble again
PS I have met the inventor in person, he is a nice person.
Mark

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #440 on: January 26, 2010, 01:54:51 PM »
to markdansie: doesn't work as in fraud or inventor mistaken.I think its a fraud ac wires coming thru the bottom of the floor hidden going thru one of the 2 by 4's by a hole drilled thru going into the blue box that hooks to the lamps,my guess.A good trick,I did a replication on the
elemental rods and the small suit case ERR,there posted on youtube.So many frauds,however I think one day we will see a real free energy device.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #441 on: January 26, 2010, 02:09:51 PM »
Hi Mark,
maybe you can tell us more about your meeting ?

Here are 2 guys, who come forward having witnessed it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2IFT9wm-c8

So are they valid ?
« Last Edit: January 26, 2010, 03:27:44 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #442 on: January 26, 2010, 06:17:49 PM »
Hello Stefan,

I am one of the guys in the recent video posted on the WITTS YouTube Channel.  I'll attempt to answer some questions here if you would like, however, I don't know how much time I'll have to do so.  I typically stay off public forums but it's time people start to wake up and quit being so cynical about technology (and people) they don't understand.  Also, I feel with so much blatant corruption taking place in so many areas of our world, the timing is better than ever for folks to start opening their beliefs to new ideas and become actively engaged in changing our paradigm.  A good beginning is for people to be tolerant of others who might have world views that seem somewhat different than their own.

First thing I want people to realize is that this technology is real.  I have thoroughly examined many of the prototypes myself on multiple occasions and have talked to others who have also verified the devices.  It's real.

Second - For everyone out there who suggest that WITTS should disclose the technology to allow opensource replications. (I leaned toward this myself when first getting to know Sir Timothy Thrapp and the ministry.)  Honestly, now I don't think it would solve the issue of getting real machines out into the world to help humanity.  WITTS past experience has indicated very few people are technically inclined or motivated to build anything themselves, much less something that would require the commitment to spend more than a few hundred dollars.  They had released instructions years ago on the flux switched transformer and virtually no one was interested.  Finally Jean-Louis Naudin was persuaded to build it and found it did indeed perform as stated - we all know where it ended up.  Even this device requires significant resources to build, tune and test it properly.  Not something the average tech is willing to commit.
There are effects manifesting in many of these devices that few people understand.  When Sir Timothy speaks of dominant energy, he's not making these things up.  This is the model from which they understand how to engineer these machines.  Many conventional engineers are not open to challenging their dogma to accommodate principles that are foreign to their experience.  They want to relate things to what they think they know.
I'm certain that once the initial tech is put into production, the details of dominant energy engineering will start to be disseminated among responsible developers.

Finally, one last item.  I have spent significant funds building and researching overunity devices full time for 8 years or so.  I am familiar with many of the problems associated with measuring unusual circuits and electrical input/outputs.  I had seen some success with my own work but it was far from being perfected or practical.  The technology WITTS has developed is quite mature given their extremely underfunded operation.  They are not rolling in dough with their pleas for donations - far from it.  I made it my full time focus to help them procure funding in some way.  I don't get paid for this.

I do hope this introduction is somehow productive.
Peace,
Tim Martin

baroutologos

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #443 on: January 26, 2010, 06:28:55 PM »
Most of what you say its true concernign the building fo such a machine. If you tell me to make and provide me full specs of a small  internal combustion engine, i would say i cannot. too much machining, lath work, part fiting etc etc

So, i am willing to buy such a piece of equipment at a resonable cost. Is it available?

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #444 on: January 26, 2010, 06:43:33 PM »
Most of what you say its true concernign the building fo such a machine. If you tell me to make and provide me full specs of a small  internal combustion engine, i would say i cannot. too much machining, lath work, part fiting etc etc

So, i am willing to buy such a piece of equipment at a resonable cost. Is it available?
Yes
if this techology is valid , I buy ten of them , how many money they need ?
if every one (or some people ) on this forum buy one is it ok ?

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #445 on: January 26, 2010, 06:56:14 PM »
@ TM23

Hello Stefan,

I am one of the guys in the recent video posted on the WITTS YouTube Channel.  I'll attempt to answer some questions here if you would like, however, I don't know how much time I'll have to do so.  I typically stay off public forums but it's time people start to wake up and quit being so cynical about technology (and people) they don't understand.  Also, I feel with so much blatant corruption taking place in so many areas of our world, the timing is better than ever for folks to start opening their beliefs to new ideas and become actively engaged in changing our paradigm.  A good beginning is for people to be tolerant of others who might have world views that seem somewhat different than their own.

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QUOTE from Dr Trapp:

Dr. Trapp states that if governments were FOR this technology instead of against it, a home-power generator the size of a desktop computer could be built and sold for about the same as fuel powered generators or less.  When Dr. Trapp moved back from Alaska, upon arrival, the shipping container containing his tools, instruments, etc., had been emptied. In spring 2001, Trapp’s lab in Arizona was raided. At the end of 2001 two WITS scientist assistants were (and currently still are) in Ohio prison on trumped up drug charges.

In the past 20 years the U.S. Government has destroyed over 14 WITTS laboratories. As recently as spring 2006 a WITTS laboratory burned to the ground. The contents of each laboratory contained millions of dollars worth of instruments and several costly free energy machines. Dr. Trapp’s laboratories were raided, his equipment was smashed, and his people were beaten and arrested numerous times on false charges. False evidence was planted many times.

After beating up one of his WITTS salesmen, the salesman was then killed by driving the salesman’s car off a cliff. Another WITTS employee was also murdered by U.S. Government and so-called law enforcement agents. There have been numerous attempts on the lives of Dr. Trapp as well as many of his associates.  Dr. Trapp wrote “This really should be a wake-up call to the people of America who believe we have religious freedom here. We don’t, when it comes to anything that might help the little guy.

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Thank you TM23 for your post. 

EXPERTS keep saying there is safety in numbers.  So if the WITT folks SOLD PLANS for it there wouldn’t be any reason for the satanic MIBs to raid their labs and harass those folks.  If a person does a web search for DEAD SCIENTISTS, one can see that it is better to disclose these free energy inventions before the satanic MIBs swoop in.

TOO MANY THINK they can get a PATENT and MAKE MONEY on it.  History proves that is definitely not true.

PLEASE CONSIDER SELLING Plans as soon as possible.

Thank you.


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« Last Edit: January 26, 2010, 11:03:39 PM by FatBird »

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #446 on: January 26, 2010, 07:01:51 PM »
WITTS past experience has indicated very few people are technically inclined or motivated to build anything themselves, much less something that would require the commitment to spend more than a few hundred dollars.

If the device works as claimed people will replicate it! And they would be successfull if WITTS handed out the necessary construction plans, sketches.
You totally forgot one thing. Most devices being built in this forum which do not work mostly for 1 simple reason: because there are important missing details, black box etc. from the original device. But if WITTS has all the details (and they must, if they have built it themselves) and hands it out, people will build it and prove it true. After that WITTS still is able to sell their devices for the unskilled people and people would be willing to buy because they see it is truth. But not a pig in a poke  ;)

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #447 on: January 26, 2010, 08:41:01 PM »
@all,
no cigar for this one, it doesnt work.
Sorry, I have a lot of knowledge of this device and people who have seen it in person.
Sorry to blow you bubble again
PS I have met the inventor in person, he is a nice person.
Mark
Could you please elaborate as to who these people are that have seen this device and reply in detail why this device doesn't work?  If it doesn't work, then how is the video faked?  Thanx.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #448 on: January 27, 2010, 12:10:29 AM »
Here is another new one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQv5-p_ycUo

But:
I see 3 batteries at the left side of the circuit board.
He said, these were only for the switches...
but maybe the power is stray coupled somehow onto the coil lines too ?

So this is not very convincing, as long as the
device does not run just from a charged cap
or I will see the circuit diagramm, I don´t believe it...

Also what does this MilliWatts device make sense, if they
really have this selfrunning 2 KWatts generator sitting there ?

So why not just concentrate on the selfrunning 2 KWatts generator
and drop this Milliwatts coil thing ?

Something is not right here. Also why do they insist on these
MIB stories that guys have been killed and labs been raided ?
Any proof for this ?
Where are the newspaper articles or missing guys that we can
read about  in the normal media ?

Any references to this and not just pure claims without proof ?

A few donations will not get them a factory !

This needs to be developed and put in open source,
if it is really what they claim, but I am very skeptical about it.

Regards, Stefan.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2010, 12:43:04 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #449 on: January 27, 2010, 12:30:24 AM »
Hello Stefan,

I am one of the guys in the recent video posted on the WITTS YouTube Channel.  I'll attempt to answer some questions here if you would like, however, I don't know how much time I'll have to do so.  I typically stay off public forums but it's time people start to wake up and quit being so cynical about technology (and people) they don't understand.  Also, I feel with so much blatant corruption taking place in so many areas of our world, the timing is better than ever for folks to start opening their beliefs to new ideas and become actively engaged in changing our paradigm.  A good beginning is for people to be tolerant of others who might have world views that seem somewhat different than their own.

First thing I want people to realize is that this technology is real.  I have thoroughly examined many of the prototypes myself on multiple occasions and have talked to others who have also verified the devices.  It's real.

Second - For everyone out there who suggest that WITTS should disclose the technology to allow opensource replications. (I leaned toward this myself when first getting to know Sir Timothy Thrapp and the ministry.)  Honestly, now I don't think it would solve the issue of getting real machines out into the world to help humanity. 


Why don´t you think so ?

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WITTS past experience has indicated very few people are technically inclined or motivated to build anything themselves, much less something that would require the commitment to spend more than a few hundred dollars.  They had released instructions years ago on the flux switched transformer and virtually no one was interested.  Finally Jean-Louis Naudin was persuaded to build it and found it did indeed perform as stated - we all know where it ended up.


Which device do you exactly mean ?
Please post a link to Jean Louis´s site with the device.

Do you mean the MEG ?
This was from Bearden and not from Witts.
JL made errors there with a 10x factor wrong calculated resistance.


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Even this device requires significant resources to build, tune and test it properly.  Not something the average tech is willing to commit.

If clear blue prints would be published surely many people would
replicate it on a high level.
Look at what Steorn has done now with releasing infos,
and so many people are replicating it already with success !
Not to mention the HHO devices..

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There are effects manifesting in many of these devices that few people understand.  When Sir Timothy speaks of dominant energy, he's not making these things up.  This is the model from which they understand how to engineer these machines.  Many conventional engineers are not open to challenging their dogma to accommodate principles that are foreign to their experience.  They want to relate things to what they think they know.
I'm certain that once the initial tech is put into production, the details of dominant energy engineering will start to be disseminated among responsible developers.


If he would really explain it, we could follow, but just "bubbling" about dorminant energy
and not explaining does not help...

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Finally, one last item.  I have spent significant funds building and researching overunity devices full time for 8 years or so.  I am familiar with many of the problems associated with measuring unusual circuits and electrical input/outputs.  I had seen some success with my own work but it was far from being perfected or practical.  The technology WITTS has developed is quite mature given their extremely underfunded operation.  They are not rolling in dough with their pleas for donations - far from it.  I made it my full time focus to help them procure funding in some way.  I don't get paid for this.

I do hope this introduction is somehow productive.
Peace,
Tim Martin

Well Tim,
you might have a good faith in them,
but have you made yourself any measurements ?
Why don´t you describe the measurements in detail ?

Well, if Witts does not want to make it open source,
then why don´t they patent it and search for a big investor
or the US military and get paid this way and get this thing
locked up for black projects ?

If they only want the money, Witts is doing it wrongly.

The way they do it now smells like they just only want
the donations and don´t deliver anything for it.

Their former memberpage converter was only a
copy of the Naudin-Bearden MEG, when I remember correctly
...and people had to pay (donate) for the access..

So I see no real value in donations for "vapourware" yet...

As I said a few donations would not get them a factory to
be build.

If they really want a factory they should look
for a billionaire that will finance something like this.

But then they would probably need a patent first,
which they will probably not get under current patent law
due to "perpetual motion" claims..or US national security
concern...

Regards, Stefan.