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Author Topic: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?  (Read 415399 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #75 on: March 09, 2008, 03:26:12 AM »
and it seemed on the interview he had plans for sale from 30-50 bucs  I guess theres been a price Increase  it does seem like the shortest road    however EM is on this like he can taste it  as I see others also  Chet

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2008, 03:46:12 AM »
hmmm or some one could just ph tim and chat for a couple hours and get the answers to make a 900w gen and this would all be over and done with once a build plan was drawn up and posted, then we could make them to run our homes/cars and for our friends....(yeah right...some ones gonna phone him and end ALL this OU crap eh?).

Like I said before, why not use money out of the prize fund so Stefan can call him.

We could have PLANS by the middle of next week.

Think about it?

$100 dollars balanced against everyone's trial and error costs, which could run into hundreds of $/? per person. (are we not trying to preserve the planets resources?)

After listening to the radio interview and watching the water heater video, which IMHO looks almost impossible to fake, this is the real deal. It might be the easiest way to accomplish what we are here for!

Then we can work on scaling it up.


With all due respect...

The same reason that you won't see a FE generator on the marketplace is the same reason that you aren't merely going to be able to call up Thrapp and get all the details for any of his devices, and the same reason they charge $100/hr to talk or millions for rights to any of their technologies that they have. Its about balancing out suppression by outside 'forces' and personal securty (life preservation).

I say, lets give this some time, do more research, and test...

But, by all means, if you want to try to just all up Thrapp and get the answers, please do. If you get the answers, then great, I just don't think it is going to be that easy...

Peace...

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2008, 03:47:46 AM »
and it seemed on the interview he had plans for sale from 30-50 bucs  I guess theres been a price Increase  it does seem like the shortest road    however EM is on this like he can taste it  as I see others also  Chet

Not plans, VIDEOS of devices, major difference.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2008, 04:09:10 AM »
No pressure then EM!

I / we have every faith in you!

How can I help?

The $100 is for a donation to their ministry for a 1 hour chat on the phone. Judging by the falling value of the dollar it might end up being extremely cost effective !

How do you think the water heater works? I know it's resonance, but notice one thing, the temp is taken from the outside of the sphere so it's heating the metal as well as the water inside!

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #79 on: March 09, 2008, 04:14:20 AM »
Hey guys,  here's my setup diagram.  The only thing I haven't worked out yet is the switching from grid power to feedback power.  I guess I'm thinking to plug the fan into the wall socket first and once I can get power output from the inverter, then I can do a quick swap, hopefully the inertia will keep it going :)  But first I need to see some serious power output.

How do you like my little improvisation with the transformer?   I think it will free us from using so many capacitors.

Keep you fingers crossed,  free energy is coming   :D   
If all else fails, then maybe we'll call Mr Thrapp and pay him like a doctor!!   :D 

EM

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #80 on: March 09, 2008, 04:15:05 AM »
@ Tao

I would not know what questions to ask, but I have a feeling your good self or EM Devices might. 1 hour is a long time for firing the right questions at somebody.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #81 on: March 09, 2008, 04:18:56 AM »
No pressure then EM!

I / we have every faith in you!

How can I help?

The $100 is for a donation to their ministry for a 1 hour chat on the phone. Judging by the falling value of the dollar it might end up being extremely cost effective !

LOL, you have that right, about the dollar... Well, they are making way for the AMERO (if you don't know, google it ;) )

How do you think the water heater works? I know it's resonance, but notice one thing, the temp is taken from the outside of the sphere so it's heating the metal as well as the water inside!

In that 1 hour interview with Thrapp, you can piece together kind of how they operate the sphere water heater by listening to Thrapp describe how Stubblefield's dual-parabolic-mirror-heater device worked. Listen carefully to that part of the audio interview again, very interesting. Thrapp says something like, if you take to the two parabolic pieces and instead make two hemispheres out of SS and put them together.....etc etc...Its in the audio interview.

I am not willing to offer any concrete theories of operation on the heater or other things yet, I need some more days of research...

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2008, 04:25:25 AM »
We seem to be jumping over each others posts with excitement! :D

@EM Devices

Could you not use an electrolyser as your cap bank ?

Then with your added transformer it starts to look like Stan Meyers set up !!!

Its all coming together no?

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2008, 04:39:30 AM »
@ Tao

I am well aware of the Amero, its good (maybe not the right word) to see that somebody else knows about this. Everyone I talk to about it thinks I'm mental!!  >:(    "They will never get rid of their precious dollar" is quite a popular phrase I keep hearing. Particularly from Canadians!

@ EM

What about the "blue boxes". Circuit controllers? Frequency regulators? Mr Thrapp doesn't talk about these, apart from mentioning there are two of them.

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2008, 04:47:27 AM »
the blue boxes hummmm

kind of reminds me of a phreaking term from back in the day lol

is it not a tone generator to hack the fone system .....


been a wile ...

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #85 on: March 09, 2008, 04:49:42 AM »
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$100 dollars balanced against everyone's trial and error costs, which could run into hundreds of $/? per person. (are we not trying to preserve the planets resources?)

After listening to the radio interview and watching the water heater video, which IMHO looks almost impossible to fake, this is the real deal. It might be the easiest way to accomplish what we are here for!

Then we can work on scaling it up.


Anyone  here  like  the idea of creating a win win situation ?

I  am  currently  unempliyed ......and  not well to do by any means  .

I am  willing to  pay $50  to find  out  more about  this motor and  similar  technology.

Is anyone else  willing to put some money where there couriosity   is ?

I am suggesting that  if people are interested   we pool  our money  and  have 2 or  3 knowledgeable   and experienced  expermenters  from this site   interview Thrapp using  webcams   .......then  make a video of it

If  we could  raise  $500 or more between us I think  that  something that is good for everyone  could be worked  out. 

To  be win  win  everything would have to be  agreed to up front.
Thrapp and his  organization  would have to be aware  that  we intend to make  the information public .
Even the  topics  to be talked about should be agreed on by all .

We would  get  a big  jump  in  our understanding   of  how his  technology  works .
We would  get a chance to get  specific questions  answered .......maybe some  diagrams  or plans

Besides  making  some money  I think  we could help  Thrapp and  his group  with credability   and with  introducing  people to  his work .
Also  I can't  help but think that  if he  helps us make some big leaps ......  that those that can afford it  would  start thinking of that  $100 minimum as a consulting fee .  How  often  in the past have  you  had a problem that you  would happily  pay  $100  to  find a quick answer for ?   Of course right now .......no  one is all that sure  what answers he  has.


anyone  else  have any thoughts about this ?


gary



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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2008, 05:05:49 AM »
@ IS

 ;)  ;) 2600  ;)  ;)

@ One

I think Mr Tao is right, lets take a few days to do our own testing and research then we can see what happens and take it from there. I like your thinking though.

@ Tao

forgot to mention about the water heater / Stubblefields parabolic mirrors idea does sound very connected. I haven't got time now to re-listen to the interview.

@ Bourne

You should have been in bed hours ago !!  :D

@ everyone

Night! Talk amongst yourselves, I will be back tomorrow.

Question - Why doesn't the preview post button work any more??  Fetching preview..... No your not !  :)


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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #87 on: March 09, 2008, 05:53:45 AM »
Well no doubt the ball is in motion  funds can come together  the experts are here an infrastructure will need to be established  Im just glad to be alive during this time in history in the midst of so many great people    Chet  PS remember sunday is Mr Thrapp's  sabath

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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #88 on: March 09, 2008, 09:23:21 AM »
EM:   Your setup looks excellent.

I think the Thrapp device is working via resonance to ping the local active vacuum. The capacitors are acting as the sinks which receive the negative energy from local spacetime and convert it back to regular positive EM energy we can use. The negative energy recharges the capacitors for part of the cycle . . .  But I have not yet worked out a good understanding of how the negative energy operates in an AC circuit. . .   The general analogy is that negative energy CONVERGES into a conductor and flows via Dirac sea-holes, while positive energy DIVERGES (tries to get out of the circuit) and flows via electrons.

The other important thing might be that to negative energy, a capacitor looks like an inductor, and an inductor looks like a capacitor.  Negative energy enters the circuit through any impedence.  Everything is reversed to negative energy. You can think of it as Dirac electron-holes that move. Also it is net cooling rather than heating, etc.


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Re: "Self Running 900 Watt Fuelless Electrical Generator" Is this new?
« Reply #89 on: March 09, 2008, 07:26:33 PM »
@EMDevices


1.1.8 Radiant Energy Can Consist of Positive or Negative Energy or Both

In nonlinear situations such as pulsing and sharp gradients, the Dirac Sea must be specially considered since it is essentially the nascent vacuum prior to alteration, and it is appreciably altered by strong gradients. Sharply changing the local energy density (and spacetime curvature) of the local vacuum can and will lift Dirac particles (particularly normal 'positive energy' electrons) from the Sea, leaving behind the temporary presence and temporary persistence of unfilled Dirac Sea holes (negative energy electrons, in Dirac's theory). During the sharp gradient of the pulse, The Dirac Sea vacuum is made asymmetrical and dipolar, by separating holes from their normal occupying electrons. The asymmetrical vacuum becomes a source of excess negative energy EM fields and potentials.

As negative energy source charges, the temporarily persisting holes pour out negative EM energy transduced from their vacuum interaction, therby forming negative energy EM fields and potentials spreading at light speed. Since these negative energy force-free fields can and do also exist in space and can and do interact with elements of the physical EM system and circuitry, then the term "radiant energy" may include both positive and negative energy, including negative energy EM fields and negative energy EM potentials.

Radiant energy interaction and effects upon the physical system are thus far more complex than are specified in the EPE model. Additional physical phenomenology absent from the EPE model is present in radiant energy interactions. One strikingly unusual phenomenon commonly encountered in radiant energy engineering is the natural amplifying effect of impedances in the circuit, when negative energy from the environment impinges upon the impedances.

Free Energy Generation, Thomas Bearden and John Bedini, p. 68-69

 

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