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Offline vince

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Antigravity Device??
« on: December 15, 2007, 02:36:47 AM »
Has anyone heard any more information on the Marcus Hollingshead experiments and devices that supposedly altered gravity in there vicinity?
A few years ago Tim Ventura of American Antigravity did a feature on his work with information on how he had built this device. Later, there was a full length audio interview with Marcus by Tim Ventura where he updated everyone on the progress and successes of his device. If you go to the American Antigravity site you can probably still find this info on Tim's original version of his A. Antigravity.  Marcus said that he was working with Cambridge University in England but I have not heard a word about his work for a long time .  If anyone has any info on this subject it would be greatly appreciated.

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Antigravity Device??
« on: December 15, 2007, 02:36:47 AM »

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2007, 06:54:09 AM »
I spoke with Tim Ventura earlier this year. No new news... and AmericanAntigravity is dead now (still there but no longer active).

Mark.

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2007, 07:01:53 AM »
hi all,
long time listener; first time caller.

in a recent issue of Popular Mechanics, there was an article supposing that many UFO sightings are in fact man made devices that use some sort of molten metal generator type thingy to create an anti-gravity field around the device.  this molten metal generator would "spit out" some molten metal as a means of cooling itself, and people have been finding these hardened puddles of metal in various places for years.
this molten metal has been tested and is some sort of high grade magnesium alloy.

i wish i could remember the article better, but i just skimmed it through.

i wonder if these two things have anything to do with each other?

back to listening,
loosecannon

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2007, 08:55:07 AM »
the TR-3B ?black triangle" maybe? (which looks bogus).

http://www.rense.com/general5/trb.htm

Maybe take a look at the ESA?s anti-gravity work.
Relating to electron delay or ?drag? I believe.
London Moment and electron waves

http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2007, 10:10:54 PM »
Vince,

I was one of the initial few members of the group to try to replicate Marcus' device back in 2003. Tim Ventura was another active member. I have to say, I didn't contribute but I sat quietly in the background and watched and read and learned. I was convinced it will be a breakthrough.

My initial interests started in AG replication. But I eventually became dishartened with all the crappy theories and nothing appart from the Lifters showing any potential (and even the Lifters have no potential in my opinion as you will very well know they can't even lift their own power source). Anyway, my interests then moved to something of a more realistic possibility, and also over the years since it turns out a far more urgent need: OU and FE.

Basically the Marcus device in my opinion was all smoke and mirrors made up by the individual claiming to be Marcus. I think it was some kind of ego/fantasy trip of that certain individual for what ever reson: A joke? Some kind of sick pleasure? Attention seeking? Or in desparate need of attention? Only he will ever know...

Unfortunately, the pattern of behaviour displayed by Marcus is extremely similar to Thomas Traw?ger. The claims of attempts on his life, statements of being hacked, etc.. Markus claimed he was also visited by what I think he was trying to say were "Men in Black". Now considering this was supposed to be in England I find it totally hillarious!!

Also, I know my IT security quite well, and even though I have not looked in to it, some of what Thomas Traw?ger says of how he was hacked just don't add up. To compromise a whole server OS (whether it's unix/linux/windows) by hyjaking the newsgroup code is in my opinion a 1 in 10,000 chance, if not more. I started, as I always do, giving the chap the benefit of the doubt. But his own behaviour over the weeks has made me change my mind, and I don't think the TPP will ever amount to anything. I really and sincerely hope I am proved wrong!! But look at the results so far.

Anyway, back to the Markus device. I personally don't think that the device was even made by him. I just think he thought of a fantastical design that may "look good" and then started stringing a few gullible people (me included) along until there was enough momentum for it to take a life of it's own. I mean looking back on it now, his claims of what it could achieve were absolutely phenomenal. I mean totally incredible!! It should have been obvious from the start!!

Basically what I'm trying to say is that I do feel that we will see many people like this. And that it will be indefinate period of time. Because as the very nature of these types of groups is that people like us are trying to find solutions to certain problems. Ours? OU. And these charletans and sickos will find places like our groups too tempting to mess people about for the benefit of either their sick egos or for what ever reason they may have!! Maybe we need to devise some kind of points system that will help us identify these types of people more easily. Just an idea...

So forget Marcus. He was full of shit!! And keep a level head when in these groups, whilst always being weary of potential wankers who want to try and waste our time with wild goose chases!!

Hope that helped.

Regards,

Mike


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Offline vince

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2007, 11:09:47 PM »
wow|

I wasn't expecting that response, but thanks for answering.  Looking back I guess it was kind of pie in the sky,  and I too was taken up by the possibilities.  Just the mechanical nightmare it would have been to wind those coils on welded rings that had to track and spin at over 4500 rpm while feeding power through slip rings was possible, but not practical for the average person.

I can't believe people try to pull this stuff off and not feel embarrassed for doing it.

Thanks
Vince

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 11:21:07 PM »
No probs mate!

The last thing I want is for any of my colleagues (as that is what I consider all here) to have their time wasted. I wish I had all the answers but to me it definately is totally "pie in the sky".

If you sit back and think about it, why have we heard nothing of this since 2003? Surely if it existed it would be so huge that it would be impossible to keep a lid on it. Especially from an academic institution as if I recall correctly he claimed to be (or working with at least). Don't get me wrong, I really wished it existed too but I've grown to the harsh truth of the matter.

Best Regards,

Mike

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Offline mikey

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 11:37:13 PM »
Oh, forgot to mention.

You were dead on in my opinion. I too had real difficulty in figuring out how to construct his design. They were like something straight out of a Holywood movie. Those challenges alone were like a huge mountain to climb. You may have noticed that at least one person here (CLaNZeR - Sean) has produced some excellent workmanship. But I think even the most accomplished here may have difficulty in reproducing such a device. And even if they could, I personally do not think it would work. However, if they didn't mind giving it a shot and wasting their time, I for one would still support them. Sounds hypocritical I know, but I would never discourage anyone from trying anything. It's their choice and their life.

Regards,

Mike

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2007, 06:56:55 PM »
I still have tentative hopes for Marcus and his device, though I'm not in the "true believer" camp.  Last I heard (at least 2 years ago) Marcus had investment money but that he was slowed down by "by-products" produced when forces "push protons into becoming neutrons" within the rp core of his device.  In other words, likely beta+ decay.  If this were true then he might have been plagued with inadvertently creating radioactive isotopes ... and that could presumably hold up development for years (for all but military applications).

Anyway, I'm more interested these days in the everyday implications of the work of Tajmar and de Matos in creating gravitomagnetic effects in superconductors due to the effects of Cooper-pair bosons.  Their research was sponsored by ESA and the U.S. Air Force Office of Scientific Research.  They've also been talking to Hauser and Droscher about configurations designed to create propulsive effects.

Both Hollingshead and Tajmar's experimental configurations spin at similar RPMs but otherwise have not much in common... unless it can be found that Marcus's room temperature device also evoked the interaction of bosons (perhaps Goldstone bosons acting as non-anisotropic magnons, i.e. spin waves in which the local magnetization direction oscillates).  Then we would have something to talk about. 

Until then, I'm hoping Tajmar will have something more to say next year.



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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2017, 03:16:47 PM »
hello, i would like to show you my project for a antigravity personal drive engine with high thrust which can be mounted on almost anything. According to preliminary data, the upward force is a ~196kg at 30-60W power consumption from the power supply at using high Q resonant circuit. Capacitor size is a: 80mm x 29mm

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2017, 04:05:32 PM »
some images of this device in two versions, with a ceramic dielectric and a quartz dielectric

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Re: Antigravity Device??
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2017, 04:55:50 PM »
This is TT Brown, isn't it? not antigravity because it won't work upside down.

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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2017, 05:11:02 PM »
it is obvious that I have adhered to the configuration of the T.T. Brown lifters (where an air dielectric is used), and this capacitor represents their development

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2017, 10:08:58 PM »
this is my design project for a electrogravity radio-controlled drone

 

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