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Author Topic: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...  (Read 45361 times)

gadgetmall

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2012, 05:40:08 PM »
OK .
Or follow the White Rabbit :)

T...
ok i am following you white rabbit 8) . Well i need to do some reading . the ole smot has come a long way . i still see drive magnets in your design . Do they move or are they stationary?I have a hard time downloading mp4's before viewing . just a suggestion ... get a youtube account so your mp4 will automatically convert and is viewed faster . I am working on My ball gravity ferriswheel so in one respect railing is the common ground we have . forgive me if i am distracting you .

Al

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2012, 06:25:49 PM »
Hi.
Good response makes good feelings, for that reason i come here forum, because people around me dont understand and not supporting the what i make.
Idea is that iron ball in the smot videos not makes stikcy point what brakes the rotation, but iron is not good i think ferrite or something like that is better, because ferrite no becomes magnet when you take off it form magnet field, but if steel touches magnet or stays long time in magnet fielt then his become magnetic too.
Magnets in the pictures( red and blue color) is stationary, one pair is up level and other pair is lower level, one makes movement right and other makes movement to left, in the chain is not magnets, jes in my pictures it is magnets too but then appears stikcy point, and thats pictures was taken for showing just lot of possibilites of construction.
What is the best solution is time to show.
Now i need stainless steel bicykle chain what neodym magnet not attracting it, and gears to, its have to be plastic or SS, in the pictures cain is ordinary steel and gears too and its not good because when i make magnet triangle littlebit close then they jumps to chain, even when i clued it the opposite force appears.
Jean Luc Naudin makes good work to, if you watching the clips in youtube then iron ball when it reaches to top of magnetic triangle it freely drops down, sticky point not appears, when those balls put in the chain and magnetic triangles is two like in my 3d pictures then its have to start running arount without stopping, ofcourse magnets will die to but it happening about 100 years after, that is good for me :)

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2012, 06:36:49 PM »
Hi Yes thats the thing Thing . You are like me if we build something that moved perpetually someone will still say no it's not the magnet wont last or the bearings will need oil ..etc.. . It will for several generations though  and if it last the rest of my life time for a drop of oil ever now and then then my goals are accomplished .. Have you tried MUMetal to reduce the sticky spot . MU-Metal can be found in hard drive magnet backings and when attached to a magnet it can shield one side.Pretty cool stuff only one side grips the other is shielded with very little magnetic force. Mine wont enen pick up a small screwdriver on the back side but sticks with GREAT force on the magnet side.
 Here is a link to a  quick video showing how it gets past the sticky spot.

hope that helps !
borrowed link http://www.overunity.org.uk/cmps_index.php?pageid=mumet

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Re: A better ramp for a SMOT or TOMI track...
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2012, 09:08:05 PM »
The escape from the TOMI track is impressive but the videos usually leave out two
bugaboos. First is the track entrance where it takes a push/squeeze to get it to the
take  off spot and second is the escape uses gravity to be successful and so the result
nothing gained unless the end point is higher than the starting point. If neither of the
gotchas were there the tracks could be connected and we would have a continually
rolling ball just like Finsrud....

but I'm still addicted to permanent magnets.

About the mumetal in hard drives. Any metal will do about the same thing but
it seems mumetal can be quite thin so the magnetic result is about the same.
It short circuits the flux very well.

Norman